2900 lbs 318ic

[m44droptop]

went the local weight station and with spare tire, jack removed the total weight with a half tank of gas was 2900 lbs

[Vornado]

Sounds good mate!

[Pirate_copy]

Why bother Vonado??

[Vornado]

Im just trying to help :(

[efanton]

What the point of this thread.

Is 2900 lbs significantly less than the standard model?

Is it going to give you a measurable performance gain or is it like the ricy carbon bonnets (hoods in USA) inevitably useless but a good talking point for those that are easily impressed.

If youre going to take this weight los seriously you would have to replace most of the non structural panels.


Oh filling your tyres with helium might also help:D

[Pirate_copy]

:)

[Conehead]

What the point of this thread.

Is 2900 lbs significantly less than the standard model?

Is it going to give you a measurable performance gain or is it like the ricy carbon bonnets (hoods in USA) inevitably useless but a good talking point for those that are easily impressed.
If youre going to take this weight los seriously you would have to replace most of the non structural panels.


Oh filling your tyres with helium might also help:D


LOL..I like that...I might use that next time im at work.....:eeps:

[SCANDINAVIAN13]

When you remove things like that, you throw the car out of balance. Not by much, but enough that it's generally not a good idea.

[Pirate_copy]

+1000

[SewerSideUp]

I disagree with Scandanavian. Weight decrease is an increase in performance of the car all around...As I said before in a previous thread, a proper setup has to go with weight reduction, or else you would have an unbalanced car. You cant have two things at a different level of perforfmance in the car, that's unbalanced.

[E36 Phantom]

I disagree with Scandanavian. Weight decrease is an increase in performance of the car all around...As I said before in a previous thread, a proper setup has to go with weight reduction, or else you would have an unbalanced car. You cant have two things at a different level of perforfmance in the car, that's unbalanced.

The 20 pounds you lose with removing the spare & jack is not enough to compensate for the negative effects of losing the car's originally intended balance. If you are going to remove weight, you have to do it evenly. If you dump the spare tire, 20 lbs up front have gotta go, too.

Besides, a good driver will be much better than losing 20 lbs.

[platinum325]

wow, dude got bashed for such a simple thing. as with half of the pointless posts on any forum, he was probably just bored and thought he'd share.

[v33_n0d3]

Most bimmers, (or at least the E46's) come with at or near 50/50 weight distribution. Ever thought about why our batteries are in the trunk instead of the hood? Why do you think our cars handle so well? When you remove or add things from the trunk you throw that balance off.

More weight in the front will increase your chances of oversteering, and ultimately spinning out. That's why V8's usually don't handle that well, because those engines alone weigh a ton. The Z06 is engineered cleverly, with the transmission mounted in the back of the vehicle. :thumbup:

[platinum325]

If 20 pounds won't make a noticably postive gain after being taken out, i can't imagine it making a noticably negative balance shift either. I think most people on this forum have 20 pounds of junk in their trunk (in the car, not the pants. Well maybe that too) as it sits anyway. I'm sure my 2 12" subs aren't helping my weight problem but i sure as sh1t am enjoying them anyway....

[v33_n0d3]

When I install my subwoofers, I plan on ditching the spare tire and jack. I have AAA. :thumbup:

[Vornado]

ahaha.. pull up one of the oldest threads in the forum and a dude that hasnt logged in since august 6, 2005 gets comments nearly 2 years later! :rofl:

[platinum325]

haha i never even noticed

[B/\/\W]

If 20 pounds won't make a noticably postive gain after being taken out, i can't imagine it making a noticably negative balance shift either. I think most people on this forum have 20 pounds of junk in their trunk (in the car, not the pants. Well maybe that too) as it sits anyway. I'm sure my 2 12" subs aren't helping my weight problem but i sure as sh1t am enjoying them anyway....

Exactly, everyone is making a big fuss about it.

Oh sh1t, I've only got two passengers, I need another one in the rear left seat to balance the weight, otherwise I'm going to get negative handling characteristics!!! Doubtful :thumbdwn:

[SCANDINAVIAN13]

Don't forget, though, that the passengers are near the centre of the near 50/50 weight distribution. If you take something that weighs one million pounds and put it on the fulcrum, it's not going to tip the balance either way. Same with the car.
The heavier objects farther out from the CG will create more of an impact as they're farther from that point. True, the tire won't make much of a difference, but it's a difference. Our cars are precision instruments here. Seriously, the car has a leaning stance when nobody's in it to compensate for the weight of the driver alone (if the car's suspension is well maintained). If that's not precision, I'm not sure what is.

I have to do a weight and balance calculation every time before I fly. Granted, it's more important for an aircraft, especially if it's a light aircraft, since weights play more of a role, but it's still similar on premise. It's all about weight and moment affecting the CG.
Your car's in balance, as it comes, stock. Take it out of balance on one end, balance it out in some way on the other.
Sure, passengers change the balance slightly, but like I said, they're near the CG, so it's not too much of a difference. The spare has a larger arm off the CG, so its has more influence. Seriously, how many times do we have passengers in the car when we even need to worry about performance and driving?

If you don't believe me about CG influence, mess around with this:
Weight & Balance for a generic 172 (http://home.new.rr.com/trumpetb/alph/wb172N.html)

[B/\/\W]

Good post SCAN13 :thumbup: