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Jon Shafer
04-24-2005, 05:39 PM
Vintage Class Division:

1. E28 M5 owned by Ron Perry

2. E21 320i owned by CJ Viola

3. E9 3.0 CSL owned by Tom Rakearch

Modified Class Division:

1. E46 330i owned by Vijay Patel

2. E39 528i owned by James Lee

3. E36 Sedan (a.k.a. PTG M3) owned by James Demmitt

BEST OF SHOW:

1. Lambo-doored E46 M3 owned by Taber Schroeder

:supdude:

Note to potential naysayers. This competition was not rigged either!

Judging was performed by the team of freelance automotive writer/photographer Fred Larimer, and Bimmer Magazine At Large
editor Jay Jones...

PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING REQUEST:

Please post pictures of these specific vehicle in this thread if you have any.

Also, James Lee - owner of the second-place finishing E39 528i never picked
up his trophy. Does anybody know how to contact him??

Vroomer
04-24-2005, 05:40 PM
ooh a gullwing. Post those pics!

Nice job, guys!

~Vroomer

allaboutme
04-24-2005, 06:26 PM
Wow.. A gullwing. I'd like to see that on a BMW. There are pics elsewhere of the scissor door but never a gullwing

BMWenthusiast
04-24-2005, 06:37 PM
heres some of my pics from the best of show winner:
http://members.cox.net/bmwenthusiast/CIMG0234.jpg
http://members.cox.net/bmwenthusiast/CIMG0235.jpg
http://members.cox.net/bmwenthusiast/CIMG0236.jpg
http://members.cox.net/bmwenthusiast/CIMG0237.jpg
http://members.cox.net/bmwenthusiast2/CIMG0303.jpg
http://members.cox.net/bmwenthusiast2/CIMG0304.jpg
http://members.cox.net/bmwenthusiast2/CIMG0305.jpg
http://members.cox.net/bmwenthusiast2/CIMG0306.jpg
http://members.cox.net/bmwenthusiast2/CIMG0307.jpg

if anyone has the descriptions (color, mods, or something unique) from the other winners i most likely have it, and all of my pics are posted in the other thread "please post pics of Bimmerfest here"

little740girl
04-24-2005, 06:38 PM
I just want to say that I was VERY disappointed at the winner of best in show. That car was atrocious and easily the UGLIEST car there. Sure, it was highly modified, but it was incredibly ricey and very distasteful. The paint job was ugly, the rims were horrible, the seats were laughable, I was incredibly unimpressed and disgusted by the presence of that car.

I also think that this sends the WRONG message to people. The fact that that car won tells people that you will only win if you put more money into your car than anyone else there, and fails to stress the importance of the limitary or beauty of the modifications you do. There were many more cleaner cars there, many more cars that DESERVED to be best in show, not THIS thing that got lost when trying to find the set for Fast and Furrious 3.

And it was a scissor door, not a gullwing.

PhilH
04-24-2005, 06:46 PM
I just want to say that I was VERY disappointed at the winner of best in show. That car was atrocious and easily the UGLIEST car there. Sure, it was highly modified, but it was incredibly ricey and very distasteful. The paint job was ugly, the rims were horrible, the seats were laughable, I was incredibly unimpressed and disgusted by the presence of that car.

I also think that this sends the WRONG message to people. The fact that that car won tells people that you will only win if you put more money into your car than anyone else there, and fails to stress the importance of the limitary or beauty of the modifications you do. There were many more cleaner cars there, many more cars that DESERVED to be best in show, not THIS thing that got lost when trying to find the set for Fast and Furrious 3.

And it was a scissor door, not a gullwing.
:thumbup:

Dave 330i
04-24-2005, 06:49 PM
Do these people drive their cars?

Kaz
04-24-2005, 06:51 PM
It's still a little early for me to go on my bit after Bimmerfest 05, but I will say that without saying a word, I think the event is going in a certain, very obvious direction, for better or worse, and that the fact of the matter is, it's just not going to be possible to make even a majority of people happy...

More to come.

Blacksheep
04-24-2005, 07:14 PM
Best in Show?

That's the one we get to drive home of course! :drive:

mahaloM3
04-24-2005, 07:33 PM
Your exactly right about that! we are all winners!!
Mahalo!

surfcitydude
04-24-2005, 07:35 PM
Unbelievable choice for best in show. A fully pimped up Escalade made to look something like a BMW. NOT!!!!

Then there was the so called parking request that only highly modified and classic park in the dealer lot, one section looked like Pick-A-Part! Too bad, some real nice cars were on the street or back in the service departmant.

Lastly, what constitutes a classic. First place in classic went to a M5??? Beautiful car and great guy.....but an M5 is a classic???? One photo caption showed a 2 or 3 year old 645i with the caption from the photographer saying,"My favorite classic beemer!" :thumbdwn:

Vroomer
04-24-2005, 07:41 PM
That's NOT a gullwing! Those are LAMBO doors. :confused: Gullwing would have been HAWT!

~Vroomer

BoostedE21
04-24-2005, 08:01 PM
Do these people drive their cars?

CJ drives his car daily. Congrats again bro :thumbup:

BLitZeD310
04-24-2005, 09:34 PM
Thanks, I drive 50 miles a day!

Its my only car :thumbup:

NetEngWiz
04-24-2005, 10:59 PM
Awesome M3...I like it :thumbup: The only thing I would change are the seats.

califblue
04-24-2005, 11:45 PM
Hey everyone remember it was a Great Day!, :thumbup:
I do agree with most the Flamed Disco Job as best of show and in the show room :thumbdwn: ( reminded me of the low rider cars when I was a kid :rolleyes: ..ya know the ones with bars in the back seat and velvet interiors :cry:) … What does that have to do with anything :rolleyes: ) I know you can't please everyone one so you might as please yourself…M-

Just curious who liked that S..T?

go ahead and ban me ...just tellin' it like it is :thumbup:


P.S. Daily Driver my Ass :thumbdwn:

IF THIS IS THE WAY OF THE FUTURE :thumbdwn: you can count me and others out next year :confused: ...my .02

rdsesq
04-25-2005, 12:19 AM
Hey everyone remember it was a Great Day!, :thumbup:
I do agree with most the Flamed Disco Job as best of show and in the show room :thumbdwn: ( reminded me of the low rider cars when I was a kid :rolleyes: ..ya know the ones with bars in the back seat and velvet interiors :cry:) … What does that have to do with anything :rolleyes: ) I know you can't please everyone one so you might as please yourself…M-

Just curious who liked that S..T?
I did. It may not suit everybodys taste, but, that car was very well done. Even if you don't like the style, show some appreciation for the work that went into it. The paint was excellent. And the airbrush work was quite good. It may not be of a style to your liking, but, that doesn't mean that in an objective sense it was not well executed.

go ahead and ban me ...just tellin' it like it is :thumbup:


P.S. Daily Driver my Ass :thumbdwn:

IF THIS IS THE WAY OF THE FUTURE :thumbdwn: you can count me and others out next year :confused: ...my .02

You are not "tellin' it like it is" your are being a immature snot nose, becuase it is not of your taste it is "wrong" or "bad". Grow the f*ck up.

I hope this is the way of the future, it sure as hades better be. If it wasn't for people who go and push at the edges there would not be the modding community there is today. If all you can see is your narrow view of the world, on balance, IMO, the modding community is better off without you, then with you.

Face facts, the lowrider community know more about paint then anybody. The "r!cer" community knows more about making more power from less displacement then anybody. The "hotrod" community knows more about metal fabrication then anybody. The euro community has much to add as well (things like ICE, and other electronics). Take what those other "communities" have as knowledge and apply it to the euro scene. If it is not your taste, that is fine, but, don't discount the work/effort/passion/commitment/etc. of others just becuase it does not appeal to your narrow view of what a car is supposed to be.

(Readers digest condensed version: Quit the hating or piss off and get bent.)

tornado jay
04-25-2005, 01:02 AM
First of all I would like to thank Jon for a great event, this was my third bimmerfest and it could not have been any better. For the people that do not know me my name is Vijay Patel I won first place in the bmw modified category. I own the copper bmw that is seen in a few pictures. The reason why I am posting is in remarks to other members reactions of the winner of Best of Show. I believe to win a trophy in any car show your car has to stand out or not be modified like the rest of the cars attending the show. The cars that won all the trophies at bimmerfest STAND OUT. Certainly the car that won Best of Show stands out, it might not be everybodys taste in moding, but it does stand out. People may not believe it, but a lot of time does go into making show winning cars. Everybody has their own opinions and should state them. All I am saying is dont be so narrow minded and think that a car that looks like the rest of the cars at a show will win a trophy.

roxnadz
04-25-2005, 02:19 AM
You are not "tellin' it like it is" your are being a immature snot nose, becuase it is not of your taste it is "wrong" or "bad". Grow the f*ck up.

...

Face facts, the lowrider community know more about paint then anybody. The "r!cer" community knows more about making more power from less displacement then anybody. The "hotrod" community knows more about metal fabrication then anybody. The euro community has much to add as well (things like ICE, and other electronics). Take what those other "communities" have as knowledge and apply it to the euro scene. If it is not your taste, that is fine, but, don't discount the work/effort/passion/commitment/etc. of others just becuase it does not appeal to your narrow view of what a car is supposed to be.

(Readers digest condensed version: Quit the hating or piss off and get bent.)

Yeah. I'm gonna have to agree with this, and I personally was not impressed with the scissor-door M3 myself (it was a very nice vehicle, but not what I would consider best-in-show. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be, though.)

People are always gonna find a reason to hate, and that's silly. You may not like what others judge as the greatest; the best way to fix that is to get involved so you actually have a vote that counts. :)

You don't even have to like whatever it is, just find a way to be constructive about it.

Blacksheep
04-25-2005, 07:58 AM
I spent hours with Q-Tips and Armour All detailing my car which I knew would not get on the lot.
I can only imagine what it takes to get these show cars ready. My hat's off to everyone who spent hours polishing and cleaning in places no one would even see.

Just to be in the contest gets my respect.

There were only a few cars which I felt didn't belong on the lot. A giveaway is when the owner is standing on his roof.

Would YOU do that with your car?

smoothracing
04-25-2005, 10:20 AM
I drove my car 4 hours to get there and 4 hours to get back. Why build a car if you don't drive it.

I am honored to receive a trophy in the midst of all the very nice cars there.

James

BLitZeD310
04-25-2005, 10:39 AM
For the reply of the person standing on the roof: Tell me you didn’t get a kick out of that? Didn’t you notice the battle of the cookies on the hood of the car? There were more people gathered around his car having a great time then there were the show cars. This was not a show car, it was an Auto-X car, that gets driven harder than 90% of the cars on the lot, not to mention its 23 years old and can still keep up with allot of the cars there. Yeah so it was not the prettiest thing to look at. But he was with the E21 Legion, a group of about 13 guys getting together for the weekend to have a great time at Bimmerfest. I can’t wait for the majority of the people to understand that Bimmerfest is not about the cars, but rather the enthusiast. This is what Bimmerfest is about, having a good time. This is my 3rd year attending and I was pleased with the turnout and all the work involved. Although I must say people are making it out to be to much of a car show, and getting to crazy on the rally. From the previous years this was not the case it was just a gathering of ALL BMW's. I do understand space was limited so only modified cars and classic cars should be allowed to enter the lot. The car mentioned is considered a classic to some. Oldskool-classics is more of a style then referring to a specific year.

People got spoiled by last year at the fairgrounds. There was so much space that everyone could park and that was great. But all the other years before, it was a first come first serve basis, and many cars did not get to park on the lot regardless of how "modified" the car was and there was never complaining like I see here.

All I can say was that we stayed together and got to the lot much earlier than most, stayed together on the rally, did not get crazy on the rally, and we all had a great time.

Much respect for all the winners :thumbup:

garagelife5
04-25-2005, 12:36 PM
Hey Jon,

I totally forgot about the trophy, is there anyway you can ship the trophy to my address?

Here's a pic of my kandyblue e39
http://iiilgsrlll.com/Ling/canon/bimmerfest_05/CRW_1755.jpg

j2
04-25-2005, 01:11 PM
Yeah. I'm gonna have to agree with this, and I personally was not impressed with the scissor-door M3 myself (it was a very nice vehicle, but not what I would consider best-in-show. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be, though.)

People are always gonna find a reason to hate, and that's silly. You may not like what others judge as the greatest; the best way to fix that is to get involved so you actually have a vote that counts. :)

You don't even have to like whatever it is, just find a way to be constructive about it.


:stupid:

I didn't personally like the car either. Even so, I can respect the amount of time and effort that must have gone into that car.

WilliamsKR
04-25-2005, 02:32 PM
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! with Vijay Patel.

little740girl
04-25-2005, 02:40 PM
For the reply of the person standing on the roof: Tell me you didn’t get a kick out of that? Didn’t you notice the battle of the cookies on the hood of the car? There were more people gathered around his car having a great time then there were the show cars. This was not a show car, it was an Auto-X car, that gets driven harder than 90% of the cars on the lot, not to mention its 23 years old and can still keep up with allot of the cars there. Yeah so it was not the prettiest thing to look at. But he was with the E21 Legion, a group of about 13 guys getting together for the weekend to have a great time at Bimmerfest. I can’t wait for the majority of the people to understand that Bimmerfest is not about the cars, but rather the enthusiast. This is what Bimmerfest is about, having a good time. This is my 3rd year attending and I was pleased with the turnout and all the work involved. Although I must say people are making it out to be to much of a car show, and getting to crazy on the rally. From the previous years this was not the case it was just a gathering of ALL BMW's. I do understand space was limited so only modified cars and classic cars should be allowed to enter the lot. The car mentioned is considered a classic to some. Oldskool-classics is more of a style then referring to a specific year.

People got spoiled by last year at the fairgrounds. There was so much space that everyone could park and that was great. But all the other years before, it was a first come first serve basis, and many cars did not get to park on the lot regardless of how "modified" the car was and there was never complaining like I see here.

All I can say was that we stayed together and got to the lot much earlier than most, stayed together on the rally, did not get crazy on the rally, and we all had a great time.

Much respect for all the winners :thumbup:

haha, I won the cookie competition!!!

BoostedE21
04-25-2005, 04:17 PM
For the reply of the person standing on the roof: Tell me you didn’t get a kick out of that? Didn’t you notice the battle of the cookies on the hood of the car? There were more people gathered around his car having a great time then there were the show cars. This was not a show car, it was an Auto-X car, that gets driven harder than 90% of the cars on the lot, not to mention its 23 years old and can still keep up with allot of the cars there. Yeah so it was not the prettiest thing to look at. But he was with the E21 Legion, a group of about 13 guys getting together for the weekend to have a great time at Bimmerfest. I can’t wait for the majority of the people to understand that Bimmerfest is not about the cars, but rather the enthusiast. This is what Bimmerfest is about, having a good time. This is my 3rd year attending and I was pleased with the turnout and all the work involved. Although I must say people are making it out to be to much of a car show, and getting to crazy on the rally. From the previous years this was not the case it was just a gathering of ALL BMW's. I do understand space was limited so only modified cars and classic cars should be allowed to enter the lot. The car mentioned is considered a classic to some. Oldskool-classics is more of a style then referring to a specific year.

People got spoiled by last year at the fairgrounds. There was so much space that everyone could park and that was great. But all the other years before, it was a first come first serve basis, and many cars did not get to park on the lot regardless of how "modified" the car was and there was never complaining like I see here.

All I can say was that we stayed together and got to the lot much earlier than most, stayed together on the rally, did not get crazy on the rally, and we all had a great time.

Much respect for all the winners :thumbup:


Very well said :thumbup: . Bimmerfest is not a show, its a gathering. Its a place where people can hang out and check out other cars and meet new people and meet the people that they talk to on the boards.

sailwind
04-25-2005, 04:32 PM
Didn't care for the car, but give a thumb up for the work, blood, and tears that went into it.

Style is always a matter of opinion. Newer cars with shiny paint will attract more attention, which is why I feel the "classic" category was fitting so they are recognized as well. At the same time, I wouldn't expect a classic or older model car to win the best of show unless it's heavily modded like the old school Ms.

SB_328SP
04-25-2005, 04:52 PM
I think you need more than 2 judges to decide. Maybe an open ballot where everyone gets to vote.

Cliff
04-25-2005, 05:04 PM
I loved that euro M5

http://www.coates3.com/albums/bf2005_sat/bfest_sat_061.jpg
http://www.coates3.com/albums/bf2005_sat/bfest_sat_060.jpg

Kaz
04-25-2005, 05:29 PM
I loved that euro M5


Me too. I only wish it had period-correct wheels instead of the E39 SP ones. My thing is, if you're going to keep it with an original look, pay attention to the wheels. The same comment goes to the blue E9 with 400k+ :yikes: :yikes: miles that had late 80s vintage Alpinas, and the white E9 with E36 LTW wheels. My M6 has non-period wheels, but that should change soon.

uberpanzer
04-26-2005, 04:14 AM
The Best In Show winner has had a lot of time, effort, and money wrapped up into it, no doubt. Did it REALLY deserve that award, well obviously everyone has their own opinions. I personally feel the car was a bit over-done, but that is what you need to win car shows (Hot Import Nights, etc, etc). Will most BMW owners that love to drive their cars hard like that car, probably not, since you'll need to be VERY careful with that paint and the interior trim. But as a show car, that one is fairly top notch. Bravo.


Just to be in the contest gets my respect.

There were only a few cars which I felt didn't belong on the lot. A giveaway is when the owner is standing on his roof.

Would YOU do that with your car?
Bimmerfest is not about the Battle of the Bimmers. That happens to be just ONE of the events going on during the day. It is unfortunate that the only way to be JUDGED for that event is to be on the lot, but with this year's event not being limited to JUST the BMW lot as it has been in prior years, a small corner of 12 classic e21's (one of which won Best Classic last year and 2nd this year) can be spared. As the owner of that winning classic already said, the e21's were organized as a group, drove in early together and were allowed to park together. It is rare that you see ANY e21's on the road these days, let alone 12 of them in the same place at the same event. How many Z3's were there? How often do you see them on the road?

My paint is old and faded, chipped in places, and there is some surface rust from the days when the previous owner let the car sit for 2 years under a tree before I came along and saved the car from wasting away, giving it a new lease on life. I'm having fun with it, and that INCLUDES standing on the roof, hood, trunk, fenders, whatever I feel like. I do this because the paint is already in bad shape. I may eventually repaint it, but that is a low priority, since it doesn't need to look pretty to go fast around the autoX cones. Will I stand on the roof then? No. Do I stand on the hood of my daily driven 318is? No. Do I stand on the trunk of my e30 M3? HELL NO!!!! Does that make them any more or less important to me than my e21? No. Should my classic, 23 year old BMW have been let on the lot to help make more of a presence for the e21 community? You're damn right it should!

Bill-SD
04-26-2005, 11:23 PM
I'm sure he got a good view of the rally from up there...

uberpanzer
04-26-2005, 11:56 PM
Yes I did actually. It allowed me to see all those other cars that WEREN'T on the lot, not just the ONE extra that would have been let on if I parked out on the street. :D That is something I figured out last year at this event. Makes for a great lay of the land.

MarcusSanDiego
04-27-2005, 04:02 PM
The Best In Show winner has had a lot of time, effort, and money wrapped up into it, no doubt. Did it REALLY deserve that award, well obviously everyone has their own opinions. I personally feel the car was a bit over-done, but that is what you need to win car shows (Hot Import Nights, etc, etc). Will most BMW owners that love to drive their cars hard like that car, probably not, since you'll need to be VERY careful with that paint and the interior trim. But as a show car, that one is fairly top notch. Bravo.



Bimmerfest is not about the Battle of the Bimmers. That happens to be just ONE of the events going on during the day. It is unfortunate that the only way to be JUDGED for that event is to be on the lot, but with this year's event not being limited to JUST the BMW lot as it has been in prior years, a small corner of 12 classic e21's (one of which won Best Classic last year and 2nd this year) can be spared. As the owner of that winning classic already said, the e21's were organized as a group, drove in early together and were allowed to park together. It is rare that you see ANY e21's on the road these days, let alone 12 of them in the same place at the same event. How many Z3's were there? How often do you see them on the road?

My paint is old and faded, chipped in places, and there is some surface rust from the days when the previous owner let the car sit for 2 years under a tree before I came along and saved the car from wasting away, giving it a new lease on life. I'm having fun with it, and that INCLUDES standing on the roof, hood, trunk, fenders, whatever I feel like. I do this because the paint is already in bad shape. I may eventually repaint it, but that is a low priority, since it doesn't need to look pretty to go fast around the autoX cones. Will I stand on the roof then? No. Do I stand on the hood of my daily driven 318is? No. Do I stand on the trunk of my e30 M3? HELL NO!!!! Does that make them any more or less important to me than my e21? No. Should my classic, 23 year old BMW have been let on the lot to help make more of a presence for the e21 community? You're damn right it should!


Dougly, are you trying to say something? :angel:

Sev03
04-27-2005, 05:16 PM
hey guys i was always wondering if theres no clutch on the new m3's, then how do you shift with the shifter? thx

sailwind
04-27-2005, 05:21 PM
hey guys i was always wondering if theres no clutch on the new m3's, then how do you shift with the shifter? thx

:dunno: :dunno: :dunno:

Where in the world did you get the idea that there is no clutch in the new M3s. The manual M3 trannies have a clutch, and the SMG trannies also have a clutch. Only difference is the SMG computer engage/disengage the clutch for you, so there's no need for you to control the clutch manually.

Taber Schroeder
05-04-2005, 01:48 PM
yes people the car is a little extreme for most bmw purists......but whats NOT fun about that...you people will never forget that car as long as you live....wether it is in a positive manner or negative we did our job...TNB is proud to be the winner of best in show and would suggest to people that they judge the car on the fact the mods are just sick AND IF A LITTLE PAINT AND FUNKY DOOR KITS THROW YOU OFF OF WHAT THAT CAR WAS REALLY ABOUT YOU JUST DONT KNOW SPEED AERODYNAMICS AND POWER AND SUSPENSION ...THE CAR IS DRIVIN BY A MAD MAN...ASK ANYONE WHO SAW ME FLYING BY THEM WHEN I DROVE BACK TO LA. love my car dont care if you do.....only care if you have me design something for you and your happy with it,,,,my car is for me...it met my needs,,,let me meet yours and build you a sick ride...and you dont have to do the doors or paint...but we can still make your car unique :thumbup:

·clyde·
05-04-2005, 02:02 PM
would suggest to people that they judge the car on the fact the mods are just sick

I think it needs to see a doctor. :eek:

THE CAR IS DRIVIN BY A MAD MAN...ASK ANYONE WHO SAW ME FLYING BY THEM WHEN I DROVE BACK TO LA.

Were you driving a white 6? :confused:

love my car dont care if you do

That's what it's all about. :bigpimp:

BoostedE21
05-04-2005, 06:41 PM
I'm sure he got a good view of the rally from up there...

:yikes: , is that a turbo E21 in the backround? :yikes:

sijia10358
05-30-2005, 10:51 PM
who drives the 1st place winner car?