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posnera 12-18-2006 06:18 PM

DICE ipod kit, no sound??
 
I'm new to disassembling cars, but I'm stuck here.

I installed a DICE Ipod kit into my wife's 2004 X3. The radio now shows the tracks and the buttons control the ipod, but there is no sound. I then pulled out the radio and plugged in the white plug. Still no sound.

I spoke to Tom from EAS, who seemed sure that there was another white plug to be found behind the radio. When I couldn't find one, he suggested that I go to a BMW dealer.

None of the BMW dealers I spoke to would touch a third party product, so I went to a local car stereo shop. They couldn't find another white plug, and couldn't get sound.

I called DICE, who thought I needed a DSP kit. It has arrived, but I can't find anyplace to plug it in. I called DICE again, and the new guy doesn't think I need a DSP kit, but wants me to take a picture of my amplifier to be sure.

This is where I'm stuck. What/where is the amplifier?

When I open the back left panel in the trunk, I find a bunch of wires and a black box which has no visible wires pointing backwards. The box says DSP on it. Also, when I press the radio button that brings up the base/treble controls, I do get a DSP menu.

So, what do I do now?

Here are some pictures:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...era/BMW003.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...era/BMW004.jpg

rudeney 12-21-2006 07:38 AM

Those cables in your hand are the pre-wiring for the optional Sirius unit. Try plugging the DICE into the flat 3-way connector and the 6-way connector there. That should get things working. If not, then something else is wrong. And yes, there should be two 6-way connectors in the center console and two behind the radio.

TexRob 12-21-2006 07:46 AM

Did you order the kit for a car equipped with DSP?

posnera 12-21-2006 11:38 AM

I have the DICE unit plugged into the flat 3-way and the 6-way connectors pictured above. The radio shows the ipod track name and the buttons change tracks, but there is no sound.

As for DSP, I have a DICE DSP module, but I don't see any connectors that will work. Maybe there are some more wires that come off of the front of that black box I have pictured, but I don't know how to get that large panel off in order to look (and if they aren't going to be there, I'd rather not disassemble anything else).

Thanks for your responses, hopefully you can help me get to the bottom of this.

ycrazyy 12-21-2006 01:09 PM

For those of us with 2007's (I don't know if this applies to 04's but it's worth a shot) we had to switch a connector in the back of the head unit itself. I had to plug in the CD-SARS white connector in place of the white connector that was already plugged in.

posnera 12-21-2006 02:06 PM

Yup. I had to plug in the CD-SARS white connector. However, there wasn't one already connected, and I can't find a second one to try.

whiffer 12-29-2006 05:59 PM

i read this and fell short of trying out out myself. that is, until i called tom @ eas and he walked me through it. awesome support!

i woulda taken photos of my radio and dash out but i was too excited to get things working and i had my hands full already.

for those of you not inclined to take things apart: its very easy. plus, theres a screwdriver/flathead in your rear tool kit. if you didnt know you had a read too kit, well then, now youve got that too look forward to also!

tom @ eas 01-02-2007 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiffer (Post 2094519)
i read this and fell short of trying out out myself. that is, until i called tom @ eas and he walked me through it. awesome support!

i woulda taken photos of my radio and dash out but i was too excited to get things working and i had my hands full already.

for those of you not inclined to take things apart: its very easy. plus, theres a screwdriver/flathead in your rear tool kit. if you didnt know you had a read too kit, well then, now youve got that too look forward to also!

Glad you're back on the road. :thumbup:

davistroy 01-04-2007 11:33 AM

posnera, I had the same exact problem - I never was able to figure it out. I finally gave up and sold my ICELINK.

posnera 01-04-2007 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davistroy (Post 2102408)
posnera, I had the same exact problem - I never was able to figure it out. I finally gave up and sold my ICELINK.


I'm up to taking this to a BMW dealer and begging them to take a look, even though it is a non-BMW part. If not, I'm returning it as well. I'll probably have to settle for the BMW ipod adapter, which I really don't like. Disappointing.

tom @ eas 01-04-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posnera (Post 2083215)
Yup. I had to plug in the CD-SARS white connector. However, there wasn't one already connected, and I can't find a second one to try.

Is your X3 equipped with DSP?

posnera 01-04-2007 12:29 PM

I don't know. It was bought used. I think it does, but I can't find any coax connectors.

When I scroll through the stereo functions (tone/balance, etc) I do get a DSP settings option.

After initialy speaking with you, we had decided that I didn't have DSP. I then spoke to DICE directly, and they thought I did, so I ordered a DSP kit from them. Now I've got $250 worth of parts that don't work. I'm really at a loss here.

Where in the car (exactly) would I find the DSP connectors? I've removed the left rear panel and the results are in the pictures at the top of this thread. I can't get the front left panel off to look at the front of the black box pictured above, but I reached around and didn't feel any loose wires. Is it possible that a part was removed before the car was sold to me?

tom @ eas 01-04-2007 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posnera (Post 2102509)
I don't know. It was bought used. I think it does, but I can't find any coax connectors.

When I scroll through the stereo functions (tone/balance, etc) I do get a DSP settings option.

After initialy speaking with you, we had decided that I didn't have DSP. I then spoke to DICE directly, and they thought I did, so I ordered a DSP kit from them. Now I've got $250 worth of parts that don't work. I'm really at a loss here.

Where in the car (exactly) would I find the DSP connectors? I've removed the left rear panel and the results are in the pictures at the top of this thread. I can't get the front left panel off to look at the front of the black box pictured above, but I reached around and didn't feel any loose wires. Is it possible that a part was removed before the car was sold to me?

This depends on if the vehicle is prewired for Sirius or not (SA-693), if so - an additional converter (DSP converter) is not needed. Also, it could be that oyu are not finding the 12-pin connector behind the radio like stated in whiffer's post.

There's a couple of possibilities - we jsut need to get the correct info on your end.

chameleon02 01-05-2007 06:41 PM

This sounds a little bit like my problem. Except mines plugged into the center console with the 3 & 6 pin connector. I'm getting text, but no sound.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=182582

Although I did call the dealer (who ran my VIN) and confirmed that I do NOT have the SA-693 but I do have DSP stereo.

tom @ eas 01-05-2007 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chameleon02 (Post 2104890)
This sounds a little bit like my problem. Except mines plugged into the center console with the 3 & 6 pin connector. I'm getting text, but no sound.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=182582

Although I did call the dealer (who ran my VIN) and confirmed that I do NOT have the SA-693 but I do have DSP stereo.

If this is the case, you are missing your DSP cable and will require the DSP converter as well, I've only seen this happen one time in the past.

chameleon02 01-09-2007 07:43 AM

Tom, do you guys carry the dsp converter & cable? And would this plug directly into the rear of my stereo?

tom @ eas 01-09-2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chameleon02 (Post 2109510)
Tom, do you guys carry the dsp converter & cable? And would this plug directly into the rear of my stereo?

The DSP converter plugs directly to the amp in the trunk. We have them available on the site:

DSP Kit for DICE iPod Integration Kits
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...roducts_id=230

spm1976 03-09-2007 12:41 PM

I think I'm in the same boat. No audio here..
 
I have tried every combination possible and still no audio. Rear cargo wires, center console wires, CDSARS wires behind radio and still no sound. I sent Tom a picture of my amp and all wires and we figured that I did not have DSP. He made the suggestion of plugging in that CD-SARS wire and nothing. Even if I did, there is no place for the DSP box to plug into anyway. There's nothing that comes even close to a coax wire back there. The text and steering wheel controls work fine, but does anyone have any suggestions? I feel like I am better off sticking with the MP3 CDs and just skipping this thing altogether.:dunno:

For what it's worth...
I have bluetooth installed, I'm pre-wired for Sirius and do not have DSP.

TIA

tom @ eas 03-09-2007 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spm1976 (Post 2225619)
I have tried every combination possible and still no audio. Rear cargo wires, center console wires, CDSARS wires behind radio and still no sound. I sent Tom a picture of my amp and all wires and we figured that I did not have DSP. He made the suggestion of plugging in that CD-SARS wire and nothing. Even if I did, there is no place for the DSP box to plug into anyway. There's nothing that comes even close to a coax wire back there. The text and steering wheel controls work fine, but does anyone have any suggestions? I feel like I am better off sticking with the MP3 CDs and just skipping this thing altogether.:dunno:

For what it's worth...
I have bluetooth installed, I'm pre-wired for Sirius and do not have DSP.

TIA

More than likely the incorrect 12-pin audio connector is plugged in the rear of the radio. Remove the radio, swap the connectors and you should have audio:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7...ndissuetj4.jpg

Here's a diagram to explain what I'm referring to, hope this helps.

spm1976 03-09-2007 01:03 PM

Already tried that..
 
Tom,

That was the first thing I tried this morning after your email last night. I've heard that sometimes the X3 comes with the adapter plugged in for the OEM Ipod adapter and it will cause this issue. Do you think this is it?? If so, where can I find that plug?

tom @ eas 03-09-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spm1976 (Post 2225662)
Tom,

That was the first thing I tried this morning after your email last night. I've heard that sometimes the X3 comes with the adapter plugged in for the OEM Ipod adapter and it will cause this issue. Do you think this is it?? If so, where can I find that plug?

There really is no adapter for the iPod reinstalled - I'm not sure what you ma

Nothing comes preinstalled for the factory BMW iPod kit, only for Sirius. Can you email me some pictures of your connections and behind the radio so we can troubleshoot firther?

spm1976 03-09-2007 01:18 PM

Consider it done.
 
I'll take care of that right away..

spm1976 03-09-2007 02:15 PM

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7252/cimg1526ok0.jpg

Here it is...

spm1976 03-09-2007 02:21 PM

I'm not sure if it was pre-installed, but maybe what I read was that it was plugged in the back of the head unit. Meaning the wires were already run to where the OEM Ipod unit is located. Obviously with no unit there. This person said that he had to unplug this from the back of the head unit before it would play the audio from the DICE. I'm not really sure about any of this, just an idea...

tom @ eas 03-09-2007 03:15 PM

Where do you have the DICE plugged into - underneath the center console or in the rear cargo area? Is Sirius installed in the vehicle?


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