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akak1997 04-12-2007 01:06 AM

Missing a shift on the new M3, Do you worry?
 
It'll be the most horrifying thing to happen to a car. Imagine on 5th, looking for 6th, at 8000rpm, got 4th... Boom! :cry: It might happen, especially late at night, kinda tired, no cars on the road...

Just thinking about this give me chills. I think I'm gonna wait for the SMG...

What do you think?

Penforhire 04-12-2007 10:14 AM

I don't figure the risk is any different than shifting at the limit when the limits are lower. You'll still bend the valves in most econoboxes if you do that. I had one of the early S2000's, shifting at 9K RPM! Second gear syncromesh was a weakness in that design (replaced twice under warranty, agreed not my fault). And before that, an Integra GSR (8K RPM) that made 80K miles before trade-in. Can't wait to try this new motor.

philippek@IrvineBMW 04-12-2007 10:24 AM

At 8000 rpm in 5th in an E92 M3 I'd have to guess that you'd be travelling at >140mph.

Rob325_in_AZ 04-12-2007 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philippek@IrvineBMW (Post 2301518)
At 8000 rpm in 5th in an E92 M3 I'd have to guess that you'd be travelling at >140mph.

A little too fast for "late at night, a kinda tired", don't you think ;)

ffej 04-12-2007 10:33 AM

This is the kind of think I think about all the time.

This, too...

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?

jetstream23 04-12-2007 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffej (Post 2301548)
This is the kind of think I think about all the time.

This, too...

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?

Shield....I'd definitely go with the shield.

Patrick 04-12-2007 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffej (Post 2301548)
What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?

Kevlar umbrella.

People that live in Linköping, Sweden, swear by them with all of the SAAB aircraft regularly falling out of the sky.


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Rob325_in_AZ 04-12-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetstream23 (Post 2301659)
Shield....I'd definitely go with the shield.

Do you ever get a little freaked out driving on the 51 just west of Sky Harbour? I used to live up in Phoenix, and sometimes it seems like the planes are about 10 feet over your head on that stretch of highway. :rofl:

Cliff 04-12-2007 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffej (Post 2301548)
This is the kind of think I think about all the time.

This, too...

What would happen if one of the Airplanes that flies overhead on their descent to the airport were to drop one of it's engines off and it were to land right on top of my house? Should I move? Or install some sort of protective shield?

You're more likely to get hit by an icy BM than an engine...

Nick325xiT 5spd 04-12-2007 12:13 PM

I just figure that if I can't afford to replace the engine, I shouldn't be driving that hard. And I figure that I could have blown up at least a couple of engines for what ditching an SMG II car cost me.

ObD 04-12-2007 06:16 PM

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jvr826 04-12-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff (Post 2301812)
You're more likely to get hit by an icy BM than an engine...

Icy BM or ICBM?

Cliff 04-12-2007 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvr826 (Post 2302994)
Icy BM or ICBM?

:D

The former. Ever read Spider Robinson?

Moderato 04-13-2007 06:50 AM

Just pretend that 4th is the top gear and you'll never have to worry about that. Hmm....that might not work, what if you go from 3rd to 2nd when you want 4th? :eeps: OK, here's the new plan just shift from 1st to 2nd and stop there. You should be able to do 65 in 2nd so you'll be fine on the highway and you'll NEVER have to worry about a miss shift again. Problem solved, you're welcome. :thumbup:

jetstream23 04-13-2007 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob325_in_AZ (Post 2301782)
Do you ever get a little freaked out driving on the 51 just west of Sky Harbour? I used to live up in Phoenix, and sometimes it seems like the planes are about 10 feet over your head on that stretch of highway. :rofl:

Yup. Same thing on 143 off I-10. Planes on final approach seem like they're 50 ft. off the ground when coming in for a landing!

GregW in Oregon 04-13-2007 09:25 PM

Mis-shifts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akak1997 (Post 2300607)
It'll be the most horrifying thing to happen to a car. Imagine on 5th, looking for 6th, at 8000rpm, got 4th... Boom! :cry: It might happen, especially late at night, kinda tired, no cars on the road...

Just thinking about this give me chills. I think I'm gonna wait for the SMG...

What do you think?

No SMG coming, but this may be the dual clatch tranny coming next year in the E92 M3.

http://www.getrag.de/media/0000000380.jpg

KEY BENEFITS
- Optimized efficiency
- Shifting without interruption of traction
- Excellent comfort
- Very quick and sportive shiftings possible
Max. Torque Capacity 600 Nm
Weight (dry) 79 kg
Installation length 660 mm
Synchronization
1st, 2nd and 3th gear dual cone
4th and 5th gear single cone
6th, and 7th gear dual cone
Reverse gear single cone

Gear Spread Ratio 6,8
Max. Gross Vehicle Mass/Gross Trailer Mass 2500 kg/4500 kg
Shifter System hydraulic
Miscellaneous DCT dual clutch transmission

http://www.getrag.de
Click on Transmissions/Dual Clutch Transmissions, then from the popdowns on the right DCT/Inline/Over 400 NM Torque

gmlav8r 04-14-2007 11:21 PM

perfect:thumbup:

GSIRM3 04-16-2007 02:38 PM

Why would you worry about it any more on the new M3 than the current e46 M3?

GregW in Oregon 04-16-2007 08:56 PM

Worry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GSIRM3 (Post 2310932)
Why would you worry about it any more on the new M3 than the current e46 M3?

Not a big difference, but I bet the S65 will be a bit more to rebuild than the S54. Aluminum block, more pistons, valves, etc.

cwsqbm 04-16-2007 10:58 PM

This is the silliest thread I've seen in the M3 forum. If you worry about this, you should be driving a low horsepower slushie, as the extra power of an M3 could get you into trouble also.

Jever 04-18-2007 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetstream23 (Post 2305507)
Yup. Same thing on 143 off I-10. Planes on final approach seem like they're 50 ft. off the ground when coming in for a landing!

Usually I like it when my plane lands lower than 50ft up in the air.;)

Devil Doc 04-22-2007 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwsqbm (Post 2312276)
This is the silliest thread I've seen in the M3 forum. If you worry about this, you should be driving a low horsepower slushie, as the extra power of an M3 could get you into trouble also.

Do you own an M3? I just had my ECU sent to an BMWNA engineer in NJ due to my VANOS destruction. The dealer tried to blame it on me! I had a major worry.....$16,000 for a new motor installation on a car with 5000 miles. I have the means but can think of alot of great add-ons for my car for that kind of money. It was covered becuase there was no "money shift" recorded.

Ed

akhbhaat 04-27-2007 08:26 AM

Proper shift technique will prevent misshifts: http://www.shortshifter.com/techniques2.htm

The BMW shift levers are actually ergonomically designed for this sort of shifting. Note that rather than using the typical ball on stick design, their shifters are shaped more like handles. Ever wonder why?

I always cringe when I watch people (most people who drive a manual trans) simply grope the shifter from the top and slam it from gear to gear. Of course, most people driving a manual trans don't know how to downshift properly, either.

Bruce 04-30-2007 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregW in Oregon (Post 2305779)
Weight (dry) 79 kg

Holy crap! And I thought the 6 speed was way heavy...that weight is ridiculous.

skierman64 05-03-2007 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwsqbm (Post 2312276)
This is the silliest thread I've seen in the M3 forum. If you worry about this, you should be driving a low horsepower slushie, as the extra power of an M3 could get you into trouble also.


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