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Chief F1 Fan 04-18-2007 10:51 AM

Recommend some new brake pads
 
These are the dustiest pads I've ever had on a car. NE1 have a suggestion as to a less-dusty pad? Thx

Chief F1 Fan 04-19-2007 09:59 AM

15 people look at this thread and not one has a suggestion??

M.Wong 04-19-2007 06:02 PM

Hello,

You are in the DIY section where people post how to's... see info text below taken from the sticky post. :)

Try posting your question on the 5er board that fits your model year. Start here:
http://bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6

And select E34, E39, or E60.

(I went with Akebono Euro pads front and rear on the E38, virtually no dust, no rattle, no squeal, but a decrease in pedal sharpness/feel.)

Good luck!
http://www.tirerack.com/images/brake..._euro_pads.jpg










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Ågent99 10-16-2007 03:31 PM

I like the Axxis Deluxe+ pads. Find them from Dave Zeckhuasen: www.zeckhausen.com

Fudman 10-16-2007 03:40 PM

+1 on the Axxis Deluxe. Minimal dust compared to OEM. However, if you consistently brake nice and easy, a squeak can develop. One or two hard stops and it'll go away.

PJB. 10-16-2007 03:42 PM

+1 on the Axxxis Deluxe pads. They're the same pad as the Pagid, same manufacturer. I got them because of stopping power, hearing that they really cut down on the dust but I wasn't prepared to believe the hype, plus I have Style 5s. Boy was I surprised! I used to be embarrassed by my sense of fashion and my front wheel dust, now I'm just embarrassed by my sense of fashion!

TeaRex714 10-16-2007 05:10 PM

Gotta love the Axxis Deluxe for low brake dust. Like the other poster said though... it's hard to keep the squeek away (actually, the other poster didn't say that exactly... the squeek was mentioned. It has been my experience that it's hard to keep away.) I am not very high on braking performance though. I guess it's a trade-off.

SHWELL 10-17-2007 07:42 AM

Akebonos are damn good for a low dust application.

jonmcc 10-17-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJB. (Post 2724950)
+1 on the Axxxis Deluxe pads. They're the same pad as the Pagid, same manufacturer. I got them because of stopping power, hearing that they really cut down on the dust but I wasn't prepared to believe the hype, plus I have Style 5s. Boy was I surprised! I used to be embarrassed by my sense of fashion and my front wheel dust, now I'm just embarrassed by my sense of fashion!

really? I know they are associated with PBR, but pagid too? even if they are made by pagid, theyre not the exact same pad. the pagid ones give off crazy dust just like the OEM jurid ones

+500 on Axxis deluxe pads. Ive never seen such low-dusting pads, theyre amazing. almost the same brake pedal feel, same stopping power, and mine have only squeeked a couple of times. but the others are right, a couple of hard stops and the squeek is gone.

also, I ordered the regular (older I guessing) PBR/Axxis Deluxe pads, and I see on www.zeckhausen.com that they have Axxis Deluxe Advanced now instead of the ones I have. does anyone know if they are different from mine or just re-named for marketing?

armysweitzer 10-17-2007 12:39 PM

what pads will give the BEST braking performance regardless of dust and hoping to keep squeaking to a bearable minimum?

mmm635 10-17-2007 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJB. (Post 2724950)
+1 on the Axxxis Deluxe pads. They're the same pad as the Pagid, same manufacturer. I got them because of stopping power, hearing that they really cut down on the dust but I wasn't prepared to believe the hype, plus I have Style 5s. Boy was I surprised! I used to be embarrassed by my sense of fashion and my front wheel dust, now I'm just embarrassed by my sense of fashion!

Axxis and Pagid are different manufacturers. Axxis, I believe, are from Australia, and Pagid are manufactured in Germany. Additionally, Pagid and Textar are under one roof.

I would recommend the Axxis Ultimates if you want good stopping power and less dust than OEM. Remember, stopping power and brake dust are pretty much directly proportional.

hxgaser 10-17-2007 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armysweitzer (Post 2727066)
what pads will give the BEST braking performance regardless of dust and hoping to keep squeaking to a bearable minimum?

Best for what purpose? There are significant differences among brake pad materials. Racing pads will obviously have the best braking potential, but it only works when it is property heated up. Also it will eat through rotor like nobody's business; therefore, in everyday application, you really don't want to use racing pads. Most of so call stree performance pads will give you good braking power for a spirited driving. I personally like Hawk HPS pads with simple Brembo blank rotors. Feel of braking is very linear, and works great for occational beating down the twisties. Initial bite in very soft, but it feels like bear claws as you step further on it. But let me warn you, it creates a ton of dust.

Modern brake works not by rubbing the pad against the rotor. The theory is that the pad compound actually gets embedded in rotor. And it is that compound against the same compound that works the brake. That is why the bedding procedure is very important. Also for a maticulous person like me (aka anal) I stay away from using old rotor which used to run different pad compound than a new pad. Also you should run same pad compounds for both front and back, since different compounds start working at difference temperature.

RayH 10-17-2007 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armysweitzer (Post 2727066)
what pads will give the BEST braking performance regardless of dust and hoping to keep squeaking to a bearable minimum?

Porterfield R4 for track R4S for daily driving.

mark_m5 10-17-2007 03:45 PM

I want OEM performance, so I'd stick with OEM pads. I don't give a care about dust.

bmwm3coupe 10-17-2007 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armysweitzer (Post 2727066)
what pads will give the BEST braking performance regardless of dust and hoping to keep squeaking to a bearable minimum?

Axxis Ultimate.

Although I love the idea of a pad with low/no dust, I can't take a slightly less performance pad compared to the dusty OEM pads. That is why I am going with Axxis Ultimate for a street pad - higher performance compared to the OEM pad, but still dusty. Get them from: www.zeckhausen.com

payam972 10-17-2007 04:44 PM

ill say axxis deluxe too. i got them 3 wks ago and the dust is low, the noise is gone and they increase feel

PJB. 10-17-2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmcc (Post 2727039)
really? I know they are associated with PBR, but pagid too? even if they are made by pagid, theyre not the exact same pad. the pagid ones give off crazy dust just like the OEM jurid ones

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmm635 (Post 2727178)
Axxis and Pagid are different manufacturers. Axxis, I believe, are from Australia, and Pagid are manufactured in Germany. Additionally, Pagid and Textar are under one roof.

Whoops! I meant PBR, sorry!

- Mover - 10-21-2007 09:20 AM

Carbotech AX6 if you push the car somewhat hard. Bobcat 1521 if you're a little less extreme.

These pads give you excellent feedback and modulation.


http://www.ctbrakes.com/faqanswers.html#_4

barkmanE39 10-21-2007 08:16 PM

ake Bono ceramic pads

Brian's BMW 11-16-2007 08:41 AM

Has anyone used ceramic break pads before and if so would you recommend using them?

trentmw 11-16-2007 11:24 AM

Axxis Deluxe + is now called Axxis Deluxe Advanced , +1 for these pads for street use

SHWELL 11-16-2007 02:11 PM

I just ordered some Axxis Delux,so I will have a review and personal comparo to the Akebeno pads.... I do not mind cleaning brake dust as long as I have stopping power....

SPLITSENSETAM 11-16-2007 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark_m5 (Post 2727646)
I want OEM performance, so I'd stick with OEM pads. I don't give a care about dust.


Same here ..i like oem ..i acually dont mind cleaning my rims once every 2 weeks.

glenner 11-03-2008 05:06 PM

The problem I have with my OEM Textar pads is that I seem to need to have them replaced every 15K miles or so. ...Twice now, the dealer has told me to put in new rotors at the same time. Is that in any way normal to get so little mileage on pads and rotors?

I have a 2004 325 Xi. Auto (doesn't help). But still... I did the front brakes for the first time at 15K miles. I now have 28K miles, and the dealer told me I had a couple of months to go before needing new pads AGAIN!. The rear pads are the same issue... but they last a little longer for me. I think I've did the rears once at 20K miles too.

Is there something wrong with my pads or my car? Is there a recommendation for long lasting pads and rotors?

Thanks!

Jason5driver 04-28-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmm635 (Post 2727178)
Axxis and Pagid are different manufacturers. Axxis, I believe, are from Australia, and Pagid are manufactured in Germany. Additionally, Pagid and Textar are under one roof.

I would recommend the Axxis Ultimates if you want good stopping power and less dust than OEM. Remember, stopping power and brake dust are pretty much directly proportional.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark_m5 (Post 2727646)
I want OEM performance, so I'd stick with OEM pads. I don't give a care about dust.

+1!

Which has better braking power/ bite/ braking torque?
The OEM pads or the Axxis Ultimates?


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