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dna5ty2 03-16-2008 12:06 PM

TSW 10-60 M-Power Oil vs. CASTROL Synthetic Oil
 


Dealer recommended TSW MPower 10-60W Engine Oil....vs. CASTROL Synthetic Oil 10-60W. any suggestions? i'm thinking of switching to synthetic oil... pics soon!!

Bruce 03-16-2008 12:50 PM

Castrol doesn't make a 10w60 unless it has just come out. Castrol DOES make the BMW labelled 10w60 and is available outside the dealer but only in Europe.

You should be using synthetic anyway. The M5 gets 10w60 if it has a build date of 3/00 or earlier. Build dates after 3/00 can use 10w60 or 5w30.

DouglasABaker 03-28-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce (Post 3093005)
Castrol doesn't make a 10w60 unless it has just come out. Castrol DOES make the BMW labelled 10w60 and is available outside the dealer but only in Europe.

You should be using synthetic anyway. The M5 gets 10w60 if it has a build date of 3/00 or earlier. Build dates after 3/00 can use 10w60 or 5w30.

In the interest of clarity, build dates after 3/00 can use BMW TWS or BMW 5W30. Using 5W30 from any other manufacturer is a no no. Valvoline is 5W40, Castrol is 0W30, and Mobil1 is 0W40. There are others I'm sure :)

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Edgy36-39 04-09-2012 12:01 PM

Ancient thread I can see, but just had this conversation over at M5 Board. Liqui-Moly 10W60 is good alternative to Castrol and MUCH cheaper.

ECSTuning 04-11-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Edgy36-39 (Post 6759624)
Ancient thread I can see, but just had this conversation over at M5 Board. Liqui-Moly 10W60 is good alternative to Castrol and MUCH cheaper.

Just jump on the grave dig train ;) If you switch over to Liqui Moly I suggest the Race Tech GT1. There are a few variations they make, the GT1 is the correct one for the S62.

http://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/60181_x300.jpghttp://c1552172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/13810_x300.jpg

Edgy36-39 04-11-2012 11:58 AM

Wow, this stuff gets complicated doesn't it? Just like always with these cars.

Luckily, GT1 is the kind I picked up! :thumbup:

Edgy36-39 04-18-2012 07:03 PM

Updating thread with my writeup and pics from the oil change -- simple job: http://cparente.wordpress.com/2012/0...m5-oil-change/

beewang 04-18-2012 08:41 PM

That is WAY too much work Chris. In the future, consider using a topsider oil extractor and take full advantage of the E39 design of having the oil filter on top.

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... just had this conversation over at M5 Board. Liqui-Moly 10W60 is good alternative to Castrol and MUCH cheaper...
Liqui-Moly is my perferred choice due to the fact that the GT-1 is made of G-IV base stock, aka "True synthetic". I can't figured out what Castrol TWS is made of and have since stop using them. Full disclosure.. my employer is the US importer for Liqui-Moly (and just about everything else you can think of for a car) and I get these things for nothing..:) But I am a huge fan of Lubro Moly (and Idenmitsu for that matter).

Edgy36-39 04-19-2012 06:48 AM

@beewang - I've used the extraction method on my M3, prior to getting access to a lift. I like inspecting the underbody regularly, and also there is a chance that extraction doesn't get quite as much out oil out as does gravity.

But sounds like we agree on larger points -- no need to go to dealer for simple stuff like this, and no need to pay $16/l for Castrol TWS!

GaryM5 06-05-2012 03:00 AM

Oil
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DouglasABaker (Post 3130809)
In the interest of clarity, build dates after 3/00 can use BMW TWS or BMW 5W30. Using 5W30 from any other manufacturer is a no no. Valvoline is 5W40, Castrol is 0W30, and Mobil1 is 0W40. There are others I'm sure :)

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I have an 01 M5 and have been using Mobil 1 5w30 for 4 years, Why is this a no no?

Edgy36-39 06-06-2012 07:44 PM

Gary -- many threads on this, very subjective topic. Check out my post, has links to other discussions.

Probably nothing wrong with 5w30. But in South Carolina, there is no reason you need to go that thin, and 10w60 gives the engine better cooling due to the broader viscosity range.

ard 06-13-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ECSTuning (Post 6764210)
the GT1 is the correct one for the S62.

I'll bite...

Based on what?


Edgy- you'd be surprised to learn the higher viscosity actually runs HOTTER, not cooler....

ard 08-21-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryM5 (Post 6876671)
I have an 01 M5 and have been using Mobil 1 5w30 for 4 years, Why is this a no no?

That oil is significantly THINNER than the recommended BMW 5w30... And THAT is way thinner than the 10-60

If you look at the actual viscosity specs of the BMW 5w30 it runs like a 5W40....which is why Doug Baker (above, 4 year ago... wave) suggested those oils. :)


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