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z2g 10-20-2009 11:04 PM

2010 X5 - Roof Rails No Longer Standard
 
The updated BMW USA website shows that the roof rails are no longer considered standard equipment. Is this correct? If so, that is a bit lame because who wants an SUV without roof rails?

ard 10-20-2009 11:29 PM

Correct. It has been in the printed 2010 order guide for many weeks, but in general the public didn't know about the roof rails or the Adaptive drive (no longer in the Sport Option). FYI both Tech and Premium packages went up $200. All in all $2500 more for mine in 2010 as compared to 2009.

Penguin 10-21-2009 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by z2g (Post 4616960)
The updated BMW USA website shows that the roof rails are no longer considered standard equipment. Is this correct? If so, that is a bit lame because who wants an SUV without roof rails?

Me.


I was happy they made it an option.

I've owned a Ford Explorer for 17 years and never once used the roof rails. But they make the roof a pain to wax and also have a small negative affect on mpg, I would have paid $100 premium to not have them.

z2g 10-21-2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 4617070)
Me.


I was happy they made it an option.

I've owned a Ford Explorer for 17 years and never once used the roof rails. But they make the roof a pain to wax and also have a small negative affect on mpg, I would have paid $100 premium to not have them.

Well, I don't think it would affect MPG much (if at all). But for me, SUV's without roof rails look like minivans.

smarty197 10-21-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by z2g (Post 4617878)
SUV's without roof rails look like minivans.

totally agree...

Penguin 10-21-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by z2g (Post 4617878)
Well, I don't think it would affect MPG much (if at all). But for me, SUV's without roof rails look like minivans.


Styling is in the eye of the beholder. I personally prefer the look without them. To me unused roof rails remind me of those Station Wagons from the 1960's, or the fins on the 1950's autos.

http://www.ajga.org/newsletter/theaj.../Truckster.jpg

z2g 10-21-2009 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 4618256)
Styling is in the eye of the beholder. I personally prefer the look without them. To me unused roof rails remind of those Station Wagons from the 1960's, or the fins on the 1950's autos.

http://www.ajga.org/newsletter/theaj.../Truckster.jpg

LOL!!! Those old station wagons with the wood side trim are sweet! When I was a kid, our family had a Chrysler station wagon that looked similar that!:rofl:

Penguin 10-21-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by z2g (Post 4618417)
LOL!!! Those old station wagons with the wood side trim are sweet! When I was a kid, our family had a Chrysler station wagon that looked similar that!:rofl:


Tastes do change over time. I wonder if someday in the far off future, people will look at all the wood trim in current BMW interiors in the same way we now look at wood on the side of cars!

Scot 10-21-2009 01:11 PM

there are only two scenarios in the far off future.............if Al Gore is correct......there won't be any trees left to use in our interiors...........or if Al Gore gets his way......there won't be any BMWs to worry about........

Penguin 10-21-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scot (Post 4618534)
there are only two scenarios in the far off future.............if Al Gore is correct......there won't be any trees left to use in our interiors...........or if Al Gore gets his way......there won't be any BMWs to worry about........

So, you're saying the only trim option will be the Bamboo? :)

jaaX3 10-21-2009 02:34 PM

Or aluminum.

cablue 10-21-2009 03:01 PM

Ok, now you have me feeling guilty for the wood trim in my car!

jinhuang 11-14-2009 09:43 PM

I got my 2010 X5 today without roof rails, found out it is options in 2010 and cost $100. Does anybody know if I can install this by myself once I buy it from Dealer? Or how much will I be charged if dealer installs it?

z2g 11-14-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jinhuang (Post 4685386)
I got my 2010 X5 today without roof rails, found out it is options in 2010 and cost $100. Does anybody know if I can install this by myself once I buy it from Dealer? Or how much will I be charged if dealer installs it?

I think there's a thread here (or maybe Xoutpost.com) that mentions this issue. I think the member was quoted about $1100 for the labor alone! Apparently, the install involves taking off the headliner.

ard 11-14-2009 11:49 PM

Parts run ~$800. I would not believe that the headliner needs to come off.... well, until proven otherwise ... dealers tell all kinds of stories.

UncleJ 11-15-2009 10:57 AM

Scot, not to worry, Big Al will still have his Lexus 400 series hybrid and the kid will still have the 100 mph Prius along with the assorted pickups and SUVs at "the farm" in Tn.

beantowncruiser 11-15-2009 03:00 PM

And mabye because of " Big Al " and others like him who actually give a damn about the environment, the air that we breathe into our lungs and the fact that we're sending billions over to the Middle East in the form of oil dollars some of which gets used to blow up our soldiers as well as American civilians here in the US, we just might be a little better off if we got a few more mpg's out the behemoths that we drive - myself included.

I look forward to the day, hopefully in the not too distant future when I can drive an X5 that gets 50, 75 or 100 mpg. Call me crazy, but it just kinda makes sense to me that we should WANT to see that kind of inovation which can only benefit us in so many ways rather ridiculing people who push us to do better than we're doing in the area of conservation and advancement of technology.

Penguin 11-15-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by beantowncruiser (Post 4686440)
rather ridiculing people who push us to do better than we're doing in the area of conservation and advancement of technology.


I like Boone Pickens too!

z2g 11-15-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ard (Post 4685484)
Parts run ~$800. I would not believe that the headliner needs to come off.... well, until proven otherwise ... dealers tell all kinds of stories.

It depends on how the screws attach. I had installed roof racks on my Honda Passport back in college and the screws went in from the top of the roof rack. So, all you had to do was install from outside the car. If the X5 roof rack screws in from underneath, then you would have to go in from the inside of the car.

For those current X5 owners, check on top to see how the roof racks screw in.

beantowncruiser 11-15-2009 03:55 PM

Me too, and I hope he resumes his clean energy crusade - I'm all for it!

jinhuang 11-16-2009 05:11 PM

I heard different stories about roof rails: some dealers say $100 for part and $175 for installation, but some other say a few hundred for the part and thousands for installation. From the BMWUSA, the part is listed as $100 for the roof rails. Any body has the accurate information?

For current 2010 X5 owners with roof rails installed, could you check the top to see how the roof rails screw in.

I obviously don't want to spend too much money on this. Does not make any sense.

ard 11-16-2009 08:04 PM

It gets even better.

Near as I can tell, there is a PAINTED molding that is different for 'with' rails and 'without'. So to add the roof rails, you need to paint the molding with the correct cut outs.

Here are the parts you need to buy:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...=51&fg=95&hl=1

51.13.7.158.529 & 530 ... This is the railing iteself, list is ! $244 each or 488 the pair

51.13.7.250.391... this is the molding, at $166 each or $332 the pair. The come "primered"

Couple of clips, 6 nuts, etc.

As far as installation goes, forget about the headliner! Painting those moldings makes it stupid expensive. (If I were doing it, I'd see if I could machine out my existing molding to allow the rack to mount- but not sure a dealer will do that.)

Based on the parts list, there are 6 nuts that hold it in. I looked under the molding, it seems that there are holes into the roof so the headliner may need to be slightly loosened to get at the nuts, after you place the rack down, but this is a really easy thing to do.


As far as your assertion that BMWUSA 'lists' the part at $100: 1. They list no "parts" that I've ever seen, and 2. They list it as an order option- NOT as a 'purchase by itself part'

I'd have that dealer offering it for $275 go ahead and put it in writing....

BJKBerg 11-17-2009 04:58 PM

We decided not to get the roof rails on our 2010 X5d because we could not get the burnished aluminium to match the front grill. Our dealer could only provide the standard black as an option. During the factory tour what my son saw on the export versions they had a flat black, a glossy black, burnished aluminium. They also had some with a low profile solid roof rail that currently is also not available as a special order. My plan is on my next trip to Germany to stop at the local BMW dealership and find out if I can special order it and then ship it to myself in the states.

Here is another link that shows some of the other roof rail options.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...75&hg=51&fg=20

Penguin 11-17-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BJKBerg (Post 4692420)
They also had some with a low profile solid roof rail that currently is also not available as a special order.

Aren't those just the ones they put on X5M?

BJKBerg 11-18-2009 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 4693015)
Aren't those just the ones they put on X5M?

I believe they are but my client advisor told me the M roof rails are painted now.


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