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0428 09-01-2010 03:16 PM

X5 cannot go offroad!!!!
 
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These guys wanted to show off and take some cool photos near the sea and their BMW but failed and the rest of the day they spent digging their car out of the sand.


http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...em/#more-17422

Penguin 09-01-2010 03:40 PM

the X5 is really not made to go off-road, particularly weighing more than 5,000 lbs with all-season runflat tires. Can it be done, sure, I've taken street cars off-road, including a 1965 Corvair in my youthful days.

But even the X5 owners manual says "Do not drive on unpaved terrain, as otherwise the vehicle may be damaged."

Craig B 09-01-2010 04:49 PM

There are stupid people everywhere...

Craig

HW 09-01-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 5438763)
the X5 is really not made to go off-road, particularly weighing more than 5,000 lbs with all-season runflat tires. Can it be done, sure, I've taken street cars off-road, including a 1965 Corvair in my youthful days.

But even the X5 owners manual says "Do not drive on unpaved terrain, as otherwise the vehicle may be damaged."

you would think that they were only referring to cosmetics ex. bumpers, fenders, lights etc. but not actually unable to handle it.

Penguin 09-01-2010 05:15 PM

Motor Trend Review of Diesel X5:

"Though the X5 xDrive 35d delivers the best diesel fuel economy and an exhilarating drive, it also shows glaring incongruities. Those sticky Michelins that felt so grippy on the street prove useless off-road, as does BMW's clearly street-tuned all-wheel-drive system. We managed to get our X5 stuck three times, which is three more times than either the Lexus or VW became mired. We expect more utility from a luxury SUV-especially one that costs $65,000. "Bags of fun to drive in the dry, and I really dig the motor, but the cockpit leaves me cold, the lack of off-road prowess gives me pause, and the pricetag induces heart palpitations," says St. Antoine."

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...l_economy.html

obmd1 09-01-2010 05:19 PM

RFT's would have made flattening the tires. essential for SAND, impossible.

Penguin 09-01-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by obmd1 (Post 5439012)
RFT's would have made flattening the tires. essential for SAND, impossible.


Correct. Lowering the pressure would not increase the tire footprint nearly as much as a non-runflat. And a 5,000 lb plus weight would aggravate the situation.

Armand 09-01-2010 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 5438763)
the X5 is really not made to go off-road, particularly weighing more than 5,000 lbs with all-season runflat tires. Can it be done, sure, I've taken street cars off-road, including a 1965 Corvair in my youthful days.

But even the X5 owners manual says "Do not drive on unpaved terrain, as otherwise the vehicle may be damaged."

BMW's own marketing video shows the car being driven right through a pond. And then there is the other marketing video of a group of X5s going on a safari in the African plains. What gives?!

Penguin 09-02-2010 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Armand (Post 5439915)
BMW's own marketing video shows the car being driven right through a pond. And then there is the other marketing video of a group of X5s going on a safari in the African plains. What gives?!

It's a Marketing Video.

UncleJ 09-02-2010 08:17 AM

The Unimog support truck was probably not visible in the video either!:rofl:

diesaroo 09-02-2010 11:13 AM

You know xdrive's problem is the open differentials (that and no low-range). I know they have traction control & other nannies to sort of approximate a LSD but it's simply not as good as the genuine article!

I wrote Quaife to see if they produce/will produce a LSD for the E70, but I haven't heard back yet.

ard 09-02-2010 01:19 PM

Here's one of people stuck on the beach...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T06QkgA0OwY

(Oldie but goodie)


There are more as I recall...

Here's the promo reel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_XiB2OGghA



ANY car can get stuck. Who buys an X5 for off roading? It is a sport ACTIVITY vehicle, after all :)

ayu910 09-02-2010 03:01 PM

Sicne it can't go offraod any way, BMW should just give away the M Aerodynamic package for FREE! :rofl: Then offer the black plastic under trim as "Sporty Package" for $$$ :thumbup:

georgejm 09-02-2010 08:06 PM

The question is " can you ever be happy"? Just be damn glad it has the technology to keep you on the road when you feel sporty or your love ones are in a bad spot. Stop crying , just go buy a Hummer or Tuareg and you will have something to really cry about.

HW 09-02-2010 08:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PwZnx0Psyk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm3mYWOw-sw

mdog 09-03-2010 05:10 AM

In Russia there's an expression that is losely translated as:
"The more expensive your SUV is, the longer is your trip for a tractor (to pull your SUV out)"

cwsqbm 09-03-2010 08:12 AM

Its not the X5 that is complete incompetent off road, its the tires. Put a decent off-road biased tire, and it'd do ok (to the limits of its ground clearance and lack of low range). Look at Range Rovers - they're great off road with the right tire, but the low profile sport tires on many would make them as useless in sand as that X5.

noexceptions325 09-03-2010 09:29 AM

SHould have bought a jeep :thumbup:

Radian 09-03-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cwsqbm
Its not the X5 that is complete incompetent off road, its the tires. Put a decent off-road biased tire, and it'd do ok (to the limits of its ground clearance and lack of low range). Look at Range Rovers - they're great off road with the right tire, but the low profile sport tires on many would make them as useless in sand as that X5.

+1:supdude:

Definitely tires....and in the case of the marketing video and the recent photo, a competent driver, ie. someone that knows how to keep the vehicle moving in the sand.

Getting buried in the sand has happened to a lot of off-roader's over the years, it's a humbling experience no matter what you drive. It's just that, in this case, it's a very high profile vehicle in a most inopportune situation.

kunal_D 09-03-2010 12:07 PM

+100 on the tires. I watched a Top Gear test of the X6 where Jeremy bashed it for having no off road prowess whatsoever. The following month I picked up an issue of the Top Gear Magazine ( yeah I know, I'm a huge Top Gear fan) and a team of top gear journalists took the X6 into Europe's largest wilderness close to Poland. Before they set out, they installed off-road tires, some bright rally style lights on the roof and a rack with some extra provisions. They came away impressed with its off road abilities and never got stuck even once.

You have to be somewhat of a buffoon to try and off road with High performance run flat tires. What were the owners expecting? :dunno:

http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms...p=100311_01:55

Article below...

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/wild-things-are?

dms540i 09-03-2010 03:50 PM

Who hires the engineers who come up with such a product?

Radian 09-03-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dms540i
Who hires the engineers who come up with such a product?

People the likes of that clueless Exec dude from the GEICO commercials.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...19adco.600.jpg

soldmystang 09-03-2010 07:59 PM

any vehicle can go "off-road". it is the process of getting back to the road that is the real challenge. :rofl:

if ya'll are buying X5s to run sand, mud or other Jeep type terrains.............. well then ya'll are fools. :dunno:

ard 09-03-2010 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soldmystang (Post 5444851)
any vehicle can go "off-road". it is the process of getting back to the road that is the real challenge. :rofl:

if ya'll are buying X5s to run sand, mud or other Jeep type terrains.............. well then ya'll are fools. :dunno:


You know that Hummer saying "I may not drive it off road, but knowing I can is important""

The flip side for BMW is:

"I may not drive it off road, but knowing it can't makes me angry and my penis feels smaller"

ProRail 09-04-2010 04:09 PM

Need a little help? See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-d6AO5vLNU


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