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Brudda Khan 01-18-2011 06:15 PM

M3 vs 135i for a teen?
 
hey guys,
im currently 15, i get my permit in march. i get my licence in september and im starting to really nail down my car of choice. i love the M3, ever since the E46 model. Then the 135i came out and i absolutely fell in love. im stuck, i need advice on which would be better for me. i understand these cars take experience to drive. ive been driving on a private track for a year now, in my dads F430. by no means am i a professional:p, but i can drive. if i do go with the 135, what mods would you reccomend?

THANKS! :p:):p

thethethe 01-18-2011 07:21 PM

are you sure you only want an m3 or a 135i?
when i got my licenses at 16, i jumped straight into porsche 911 turbo.

Brudda Khan 01-18-2011 07:43 PM

WOW, your one lucky person. i dont exactly think my parents will get me a 911 turbo haha. i wish.

dalekressin 01-18-2011 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brudda Khan (Post 5782150)
WOW, your one lucky person. i dont exactly think my parents will get me a 911 turbo haha. i wish.

But ... if you ask very nice ... ya never can be sure.
never hurts to ask:rofl:

Brudda Khan 01-18-2011 07:57 PM

thats a negative:thumbdwn: sadly.

Ryan... 01-18-2011 08:06 PM

Its always hard to tell if these posts are serious or not.. In reality, neither car is a good idea. I say this as a 22 year old that would have eaten my own fist to own an e46 M3 at the age of 16, hell, I might still today if the offer was in front of me ;) Not that the cars are too much too handle, because any car is controllable, what is unsure in this equations is the driver, you. Being young, you (and many others in this position) are going to be tempted to push the limits at innapropriate times, namely in street/regular driving situations. Young + fast cars more often then not turn into bad situations, nobody expects bad stuff to happen until it does. I consider myself a pretty resposnible young adult, and looking back at it now I'm surprised I didn't die driving the M5 at 18 (which I did buy myself, and I DO think that makes a difference).

Now that my babbling is done, I would say get an M3. If you're parents are footing the bill, go big! It may not be as quick as a modded 135i, but its still an //M ;)

Brudda Khan 01-18-2011 10:34 PM

A modded 135i is quicker than an M? Surprised. Thank you for the advice I greatly appreciate it. I think I'm going to go with the baby M that should be coming out soon. 1 series m coupé. :)

Andrew*Debbie 01-19-2011 05:10 AM

If you get either car be sure to get some lessons in the M car. If you can afford an M3, you can afford to learn how to drive it.

BMW NA holds a school that is open to anyone 15 and up with a valid learners permit.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...eenSchool.aspx

You could also look into club Autocrossing and then CCA driving school when you are 18. . .

You can join BMW CCA now....

http://www.bmwclubla.org/calendar.php

cwsqbm 01-19-2011 06:12 AM

Being able to drive on the track, and being responsible enough not to use that speed on the street are two different things. The temptation to race is just too high.

If dad really has a F430 that you've been driving, I'm sure he won't head this advice and let you have whatever you want. At that point, I'd say go at least for the new E92 M3. Its faster than than the E46 M3 or 135i.

johnc_22 01-19-2011 06:36 AM

RIP, OP. :p

Andrew*Debbie 01-19-2011 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwsqbm (Post 5782839)
Being able to drive on the track, and being responsible enough not to use that speed on the street are two different things.

I agree. On the other hand if the OP has some training he might not die. I doubt there is anything we can say here that will stop him from getting an M car.


The driver of the Lambo that went flew off the 101 a few years back was a relative of mine.
Highway patrol came knocking on the parents door very early that morning. Family was devastated. Michael only had the car a few days. Family didn't' even know he'd leased it.

http://jalopnik.com/5043902/lamborgh...nd-recognition
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...62&postcount=1


I flew out from Atlanta a few days after the crash. Drove out to Calibasis with my parents to sit shiva. Skid marks were plainly visible on the 101. Everyone saw them. No one said anything.

I've never told the family but he might have lived if he had known how to drive the car. Maybe not. There wasn't a run off area. Instead there was a 30 foot drop. If he'd been on a track he almost certainly would have walked away.


http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/lat...75&referrer=91

Stealth.Pilot 01-19-2011 08:13 AM

You should get something bigger and safer. it's not a matter of if you crash your car but how soon. I would be surprised if you don't have some sort of accident before you are 20. It's just not realistic to think that a kid who loves speed is going to be the safest driver on the road. It takes a few years to develop the maturity and also understand the limits. Plus courts are very tough on young drivers these days.

I would suggest you get a BMW 535i or something like that. It will be fast, but will give you a good learning platform and more safety.

Stealth.Pilot 01-19-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwsqbm (Post 5782839)
Being able to drive on the track, and being responsible enough not to use that speed on the street are two different things. The temptation to race is just too high.

Completely agree.

Andrew*Debbie 01-19-2011 08:24 AM

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Brudda Khan 01-19-2011 09:11 AM

Thank you guys so much for the feedback. I talked to myparents about the M school, and they said theylle sign me up as soon as I get my permit. I thinks I'm responsible enough to own a car with such speed and only use it on the track on the weekends or whenever I can go to the track. Normally, this wouldn't be true. But my older brother passed away in a car accident a couple years back. His friend just got a lotus, and they where cutoff on the highway by a chevy and the car hit the devider and the car flipped. So from this I don't think I'll be doing anything stupid with the car. Again, thanks guys. I appreciate it
:)

wag-zhp 01-19-2011 10:46 AM

It sounds like you are going to get a car that most of us would consider too much for a teen anyway, so I say get the M3, or if you can wait, get the 1M when it's available.

Say, have your parents ever thought about adoption? I am willing to pull my own weight and would likely be a valuable and diverse addition to your family. ;)

amancuso 01-19-2011 11:25 AM

For you my friend, 1984 318i Automatic.

Brudda Khan 01-19-2011 11:40 AM

@wag
Hahaha very nice very nice. Thanks

And I think I would rather ride my bicycle than to drive a '84 318. :)


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Andrew*Debbie 01-19-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brudda Khan (Post 5783689)
@wag
Hahaha very nice very nice. Thanks

And I think I would rather ride my bicycle than to drive a '84 318. :)


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Our daughter's first car was a '96 318ti. Other than having no power it wasn't a bad car.

charlesberry 01-19-2011 11:54 AM

Good luck getting insurance.

Brudda Khan 01-19-2011 02:07 PM

Im sure it's a good car, just not what I'm looking for. And insurance won't be hard to get, it's just expensive.


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jkp1187 01-19-2011 02:31 PM

Either car is a bad choice for a teenager.

If you must have a new BMW, start with a stripped down 128i. Even that's probably too much.

Brudda Khan 01-19-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkp1187 (Post 5784134)
Either car is a bad choice for a teenager.

If you must have a new BMW, start with a stripped down 128i. Even that's probably too much.

i really dont mind if its used. but i'd like the twin turbos.

Moeman10 01-19-2011 03:09 PM

You just don't have a sense of real world driving yet... You ever drive on really ****ty streets? Rush hour? You and your car will instantly be a subject of envy.
Nothing at all like the smoothness of a racetrack, don't forget about all the oil, and other things on a normal roadway. Whatever you do, please pick the rarest car you can, so that when you wreck it, you'll really learn what it's about.

250hp in a 34xx lb car is a lot for a new driver.

I've driven an F430 myself, and to be honest, it scared the living daylights out of me. A powerful car like that can kill you in less than a few seconds. Don't be stupid, and get yourself a car that you can make fast, that's not ridiculously expensive.

mstrq 01-19-2011 03:31 PM

Don't get either. Your dad has a Ferrari. The least I would expect from your dad is a 650i, SL550 or Carrera.


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