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mjr244 03-17-2011 01:32 AM

Man, car hauls a** on sport plus mode. Does car lower on sport?
 
I have put 5k miles on the car.....but never put the sport plus or sport mode on until today. Wow....car is crazy fast. I've had it on comfort just because I have bigger wheels on it and wanted the ride to be nice. It's like a whole new car on sport.....more get up and go than my M6 had seemingly.

Question....does anyone know if the sport or sport plus profiles lower the suspension as opposed to the normal or comfort mode?

kpumroy 03-17-2011 04:09 AM

No I don't think it does. The Sport Mode firms up the shocks, changes throttle and transmission settings as well as steering feel. Sport Plus turns off traction control and vehicle stability control so be careful. I prefer Sport Mode for around town driving, the shift points are better. I sometimes just move the shifter to the DS position as this puts the transmission into Sport mode without changing the ride or steering, depends on the road conditions.

Leslierc 03-17-2011 04:16 AM

Thank goodness someone has begun a thread here celebrating one of the 7's many tremendous strengths - torque and horsePOWER!:thumbup: It's been Sport Mode (and DS Position) from day-1, and that's made the transition from the M6, for me, virtually seamless.

Bluerum 03-17-2011 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kpumroy (Post 5924478)
No I don't think it does. The Sport Mode firms up the shocks, changes throttle and transmission settings as well as steering feel. Sport Plus turns off traction control and vehicle stability control so be careful. I prefer Sport Mode for around town driving, the shift points are better. I sometimes just move the shifter to the DS position as this puts the transmission into Sport mode without changing the ride or steering, depends on the road conditions.

hmm was actually curious about DS.

1. if u r in comfort or normal - then just the tranny shift points change - matching sports mode?

2. if already in Sports mode - does nothing?

3. if in sports plus - does nothing?

Also, from sports to sports plus - no change in tranny shift points right?

Leslierc 03-17-2011 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluerum (Post 5924494)
hmm was actually curious about DS.

1. if u r in comfort or normal - then just the tranny shift points change - matching sports mode?

2. if already in Sports mode - does nothing?

3. if in sports plus - does nothing?

Also, from sports to sports plus - no change in tranny shift points right?

As it was explained to me, the Sport Mode setting affects the suspension and steering. The Sport Plus is Sport Mode with disengaged traction controls. The DS shifter position affects the transmission shift point. Thus, the driver is able to adjust for a myriad of ride and performance settings. For example, the driver can choose Sport with the shifter in D; DM, and choose their own shift points; or DS and automatically allow for longer 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear shifts.

swb3 03-17-2011 05:57 AM

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One observation, In sport plus mode it does not fully turn off traction control. Put the car in sport plus mode then hold the DSC button down for about 3-5 seconds and then it shuts all traction control off, you will receive a notification on the dash.

The first picture is the instrument panel putting it in sport plus mode. The second two pictures are after holding it down for a few seconds. You will note on the dash below the speedo the notification has changed to DSC inactive. (Sorry for bad pics)

Off course the standard disclaimer applies, in this mode you are now on your own with no "nannies" present.

PS-I have a Sh** eating grin when I drive mine, its a fantastic car. I could post on a ton of positives, I would not know where to start.

Leslierc 03-17-2011 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by swb3 (Post 5924546)
PS-I have a Sh** eating grin when I drive mine, its a fantastic car. I could post on a ton of positives, I would not know where to start.

My sentiments exactly!:thumbup: I was dying to get to this car...and I was previously driving BMW's equivalent to the Batmobile, an M6 convertible!

dbs600 03-17-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslierc (Post 5924524)
Sport Mode setting affects the suspension and steering. The Sport Plus is Sport Mode with disengaged traction controls. The DS shifter position affects the transmission shift point.

I'd like clarification on this as well. Sport Mode definitely affects the drivetrain (read: transmission shift points), but I believe it affects it differently than putting the transmission into Sport (DS), such that I do not believe it's redundant to have the car in Sport Mode as well as DS. Anyone have any additional insight on this? Thanks.

kpumroy 03-17-2011 10:51 AM

Well that is a good question. I will have to try it and see if I feel any difference. I believe that Sport mode does change throttle response as well.

swb3 03-17-2011 10:53 AM

I know the Alpina shifts 95% of the power to the rear axle,(xDrive) this information was not easy to come by I found it buried in some Alpina literature. I can only guess the 750 has some similar characteristics but I would not know where to find the information on total impact of each mode. It would be nice to have it all on one document.

mjr244 03-17-2011 08:36 PM

Sport mode definitely has to change throttle response. If the car is rated at 400 HP and 450 torque....it feels like 500HP and 550 torque in sport plus. It goes NOW. In comfort mode....it seems hesitant. Seems faster than my M6....seriously (and that is 507HP and 380 torque).

SWB.....you said sport plus does not automatically turn off traction control. Is the traction control warning the light the little orange one in between the tach and engine temp gauges in your pic? If so, mine automatically turns off when I put it in sport plus.

swb3 03-18-2011 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mjr244 (Post 5926617)
Sport mode definitely has to change throttle response. If the car is rated at 400 HP and 450 torque....it feels like 500HP and 550 torque in sport plus. It goes NOW. In comfort mode....it seems hesitant. Seems faster than my M6....seriously (and that is 507HP and 380 torque).

SWB.....you said sport plus does not automatically turn off traction control. Is the traction control warning the light the little orange one in between the tach and engine temp gauges in your pic? If so, mine automatically turns off when I put it in sport plus.

Yes it does put DSC into a more aggressive driving mode. Once you have done this, reach down and hold the DSC off button down for a few seconds and you will see this now completely shuts DSC off. This will be indicated by a statement "DSC Inactive " below the speedometer.

BMW7XAudi 05-13-2011 01:37 PM

In-laws were driving an m6 convert. they hated it mostly because of the horrible shifting. it felt like someones first time out. i did beat a guy in an M6 off the line with my S8 once. He didnt seem to know what he was doing. The 7 Xdrive cant be as quick as an M6, can it?

Leslierc 05-13-2011 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW7XAudi (Post 6063388)
The 7 Xdrive cant be as quick as an M6, can it?

The 7 is quicker off the line in my opinion. The thing about the SMG in the M6, which I had to learn, is that the shifts are much smoother and quicker when the car is being driven like you stole it.

SAMLAMBO 05-13-2011 10:13 PM

Damn man I need a bigger engine.

Leslierc 05-14-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SAMLAMBO (Post 6064400)
Damn man I need a bigger engine.

Is yours a 740 then?

Cocodrilo 05-14-2011 06:38 PM

If you think the 750 is quick wait till you try the AH7.... ! Can't get any better than that !

SAMLAMBO 05-15-2011 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslierc (Post 6065145)
Is yours a 740 then?

Nope it's the 730Li which set me back US$280000

roooomaa 01-14-2013 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by swb3 (Post 5924546)
One observation, In sport plus mode it does not fully turn off traction control. Put the car in sport plus mode then hold the DSC button down for about 3-5 seconds and then it shuts all traction control off, you will receive a notification on the dash.

The first picture is the instrument panel putting it in sport plus mode. The second two pictures are after holding it down for a few seconds. You will note on the dash below the speedo the notification has changed to DSC inactive. (Sorry for bad pics)

Off course the standard disclaimer applies, in this mode you are now on your own with no "nannies" present.

PS-I have a Sh** eating grin when I drive mine, its a fantastic car. I could post on a ton of positives, I would not know where to start.

Hi guys. When you disable DSC by holding down that button for couple of second In sport+ mode it kills throttle response. its like it turns back to comfort mode. Has anyone realized that? It show that you are still on sport+ mode (You can see it on the screen) but that doesnt feel like it.

wjhughes420384 01-20-2013 05:05 PM

in sport plus mode you engage the dynamic traction control. it will not inhibit wheel spin on launch as much, i had a good description once, but cant remember, but it is a lot different that shutting off traction control.

jtimmer 01-21-2013 06:13 PM

my apologies for the ignorant question, but what does it mean to put the shifter in DS mode? I am new to BMW and am about 3k miles into a 2013 Alpina B7. I have been wondering about the shift points myself. I have been driving in comfort mode and I would like to keep the suspension and steering the same but make the throttle more like my S8 was in sport mode. Thanks.

PREDATOR 007 01-21-2013 06:23 PM

Go to “sport” mode and adjust the configuration. The only two options are suspension and drive train. I have my sport mode set for a stiffer ride, but keep the drive train the same as comfort. When I really want to get on it, I go to sport + which adjust both.

SNAPCRAKPOP 01-27-2013 08:22 PM

Well I thought I might chime in as a new owner...I received my custom order 2013 750Li and have never been so happy with a car. I thought I would miss the raw horsepower of my corvette C6 that was custom tuned with 550HP and 535 ft lbs but let me tell you that my 7 is so much nicer and feels so much faster. Not that I have done this ;-) but lets say that my buddies Z06 could not keep up off the line or through the first 1/4 and we both have professional racing experience. He was floored by the throttle response in sport+ mode and the overall experience driving the car. I actually turned off the DSC the other day and from a rolling 35 mph broke loose the backend on hard acceleration. Did I mention I LOVE THIS CAR!

D.B.V. 03-14-2013 11:33 AM

I love the power in my 750i.

I had considered getting a '13 CTS-V before ending up with the 750. Although nothing beats rowing your own gears and the BMW is down on sheer speed, I'll take the comfort and rock solid feel of it over the Caddy.

Considering I need to drive clients around in this thing, it's not a bad "compromise"... :D

Speaking of power and torque, has anybody considered going for the Burger Tuning module?

I don't like the thought of irreversible modding, and it seems it may be the way to go.

ChrisF01 03-14-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kpumroy (Post 5924478)
No I don't think it does. The Sport Mode firms up the shocks, changes throttle and transmission settings as well as steering feel. Sport Plus turns off traction control and vehicle stability control so be careful. I prefer Sport Mode for around town driving, the shift points are better. I sometimes just move the shifter to the DS position as this puts the transmission into Sport mode without changing the ride or steering, depends on the road conditions.

Thanks for mentioning that, as silly as it sounds I just realized when you put the shifter over to the left it changes to DS. I thought it was if you wanted to shift yourself(rather than using the paddles) so I never used it. There are times driving around town I'd rather the transmission be in Sport mode but not the suspension.

Learn something new everyday!:rofl:


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