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Thunder Dump 05-10-2011 10:02 AM

2014 Navigation Map Update DIY for CIC models (2009+) Here
 
Just figured I'd pass on some info I obtained while attempting to update my '09 E93 iDrive navigation software recently. As you all probably know, from 2009 on the iDrive is now the CIC-based system (hard drive) and as such all of the official channels tell you that you have to bring the car to the dealer to have a map update performed. In 2010, I had to do this to update my maps from 2009 to 2010, at an out-the-door cost of $253 from my local dealer, and the car was there for two days. At the time, this was the only way to do it. Now, however, there are places out there to purchase what you need to do this upgrade yourself with a significant savings in both cost and convenience. Thanks to Technic and other members on the forum who provided some info and guidance.

In order to update your maps, you need two things: (1) a 3-disc DVD set containing the 2011 map data (BMW part #01990037287), and (2) a BMW Navigation Map Certificate, also commonly referred to as an FSC code (BMW part #65902181742). A couple notes about these part numbers--first, the 3-disc DVD set uses the same part number for both 2010 and 2011 maps so ask to make sure you are getting the 2011 map set if you are upgrading. I had the parts manager physically go locate the discs in inventory and visually verify that the discs were labelled 2011 before placing my order. I don't know if BMW will recycle this part number again for future years or not. Second, Tischer BMW originally believed they could order the FSC code but upon attempting to order same, they discovered the part numbers had been pulled from their system and they could not, in fact, order the FSC code. They claim BMW has since pulled this part number from all USA dealers as a part they can order for a customer (I cannot verify if this is true or not).

Okay, on with the update. DISCLAIMER: As with any car modification, proceed at your own risk. I had absolutely no issues with the procedure, even with a small hiccup (see below). Also, I have no affiliation with the vendors I mention in this DIY--they were simply the cheapest and most reputable at the time I needed to make my purchase--both were *awesome* to deal with and have great customer service. This doesn't mean it will be that way for everyone in the future. Again, proceed at your own risk.

1. Get the 2011 3-disc DVD Map Set. I ordered my discs from Tischer BMW online. I conversed with Jason, the Internet Parts manager, several times regarding the recycled map part number and also the availability/non-availability of FSC codes from them. As of 05/01/11, the 3-disc DVD map set cost $7.12 from their web site. You can't find the part by searching but if you put in the actual part number you will see it. Of course, since it was the only thing I ordered from Tischer, I got whacked with a $4.95 "handling fee" and $14.95 for standard UPS ground shipping--both which I consider exorbitant--for a grand total of $27.02 to my door. If you get them through Tischer, I recommend doing so when you place an order for something else and your shipping cost should be divided out over multiple items making it more reasonable.

2. Get the BMW Navigation Map Certificate (FSC code). Since Tischer could not obtain this for me, I shopped elsewhere. When I did the upgrade in March 2010, the cost at my local dealer for the FSC code was $229. When I called my dealer this year I was told that the list price for the code is now $343, but he would give me the BMW CCA discount which would bring it to $310. They wouldn't sell it to me directly though--only if I had the dealer do the upgrade, and they would also charge $60 in labor for the install, so after tax it would be just over $380 out the door. Calling around to other dealers I had several others quote the $343 price and no one would sell it directly to me. Enter BMWRetrofit.com. I saw them posting in another forum that they could obtain USA FSC codes directly for customers. They are located in Canada, and as of 05/01/11, they charged $200 CAD, which as of my purchase worked out to $208.74 US. My CC company charged me $6.26 for a foreign exchange fee, for a total of $215 for the code. Within 48 hours, I received an email from BMWRetrofit with an attached one-page .PDF of my BMW Navigation Map Certificate containing my unique 20-digit FSC code. For those that don't know, FSC codes are generated using your car's unique VIN so it can only be used on your car (BMW's way to avoid piracy). You do have to email BMWRetrofit your VIN after your payment so they can get the code. I will say BMWRetrofit was awesome to deal with.

3. Prep the car. The update process takes just over two hours to complete start to finish, and needs to be done with the car either running or the ignition in the on position. If the car is not running, this will drain the battery so you need to have the car tethered to a DC power source. I don't know if a battery tender would suffice (very low amperage), but a standard battery charger certainly will. I connected up the alligator clips to the terminals under the hood, set the charger for 10amps, and plugged it in. I had no power problems and no battery drain. Once the power source is set, you need to have the ignition on. Press the start button twice but DON'T put your foot on the brake. This will turn on the ignition. If you press the start button only once, you put the car in "radio ready" mode which turns on the radio/iDrive. The problem with this mode is the car will go to sleep after 20 minutes and shut off your update. So definitely keep it with the ignition on.

4. Insert the first disc. It will automatically load the update program and tell you it's about to start the update and you select OK. It will then prompt you to enter in your activation (FSC) code using the iDrive wheel. Once you enter the code and select OK it will start the process. You can watch the status bar slowly crawl along as it proceeds.

5. Insert the second disc. When the first disc is done, it will prompt you for disc 2. It will not automatically eject it from the drive so you need to press eject to remove the disc, then insert disc 2. You can watch the status bar slowly crawl along as it proceeds.

6. Insert the third disc. When the second disc is done, it will prompt you for disc 3. It will not automatically eject it from the drive so you need to press eject to remove the disc, then insert disc 3. You can watch the status bar slowly crawl along as it proceeds.

7. Reboot the iDrive system. When the third disc is complete, it will tell you it is done and will then say it needs to reboot the iDrive system. Select Reboot/OK and the system will automatically reboot and your update is complete. Eject the third disc. Store the disc set with your BMW Navigation Map Certificate in case you ever have to reinstall it.

Once you are done, if you go into the Options menu in the navigation system, under Navigation Version, you will see:

NA
BMW Group
112093.2.19
Road Map North America Premium 2011

A couple final notes about the update:

1. I've heard rumors that you need to have a (relatively) recent ISTA/P firmware version in the car to do the update. I don't know if this is true or not, but I do know my car has 2.37.1.0.1 from March 2010 and I had no issues. There is no way for the layperson to check their firmware version without a specialty reader or a trip to the dealer. However, based on my experience I don't think it's an issue. As long as you have the CIC hard drive iDrive, this should work for you.

2. This update is for the map data and the POI (Points Of Interest) data only. There is no software/firmware upgrade, no new features added, and no bugs fixed/introduced. You would need an ISTA/P software update at the dealer for that, if needed. Rule of thumb: if you aren't having problems you don't need one.

3. This update can be down while you are using the car/driving, and can be interrupted and will (or should) pick up where it left off. I actually had to go somewhere while the update was still going on and I was driving down the road still using iDrive/radio/menus, etc. It even prompted me for the iDrive reboot and rebooted at the end of the update while the car was in motion without any issues. When I first started this update, I started with the car in "Radio Ready" mode and after 20 minutes it shut completely off and went to sleep. I turned the ignition back on and the update continued from where it left off.

4. At any time you can go to Navigation, hit the Option button and the last choice is a new temporary selection "View Navigation Update Status" and it will show you the current status.

So in summary, the CIC hard drive navigation map updates can definitely be done by you at home, and for a lot cheaper than at the dealer. My dealer was going to charge me $380 and I would have had to leave the car for the whole day. Total cost for the discs and the FSC code shipped to my door was $242.

holycrap 05-13-2011 10:53 PM

Can you PM me the link to the sites for the disc and the code? Thanks!

juan232 01-05-2012 12:58 PM

Thank you so much for the info. Just got the DVD's yesterday and installed them today with no issues. I already had the code from a previous install and what do you know, it worked with this one.

The entire update cost me around $25. You saved me so much money!!!!!

Peel 01-05-2012 06:50 PM

So if this holds true for the future, that means a one time FSC charge, then $25 yearly updates. That would be awesome!

bimmerdiesel 01-06-2012 08:26 AM

If you could re-use FSC code then why doesn't BMW enforce on dealers not to charge for FSC code everytime car gets update?
Any idea on how to obtain FSC code? I got my update in 2009 through dealer and don't remember seeing FSC code in documentation.

Scorchpa 01-06-2012 10:24 AM

Charging $300+ for FSC codes is freakin ridiculous!!!! But now, charging $300 for a lifetime of updates (- cost of map DVD each year), is very reasonable. Would be nice if someone could verify that this is true or not.

MadHolms 01-11-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juan232 (Post 6543467)
Thank you so much for the info. Just got the DVD's yesterday and installed them today with no issues. I already had the code from a previous install and what do you know, it worked with this one.

The entire update cost me around $25. You saved me so much money!!!!!

Can you share the DVDs, please? :)
Otherwise, where did you buy them? If you can post them online on some torrents site, I can pay you via paypal or something.

Thx

cegeste 01-11-2012 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juan232 (Post 6543467)
Thank you so much for the info. Just got the DVD's yesterday and installed them today with no issues. I already had the code from a previous install and what do you know, it worked with this one.

The entire update cost me around $25. You saved me so much money!!!!!

Since you have a 2011 528, you probably had the 2011 maps installed. Did you get the 2011 or 2012 DVDs?

shawnsheridan 01-12-2012 07:12 PM

For less than $7, I just picked up the NAV DVD's for both the 2011 and 2012 CIC versions. More about that here:

http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11139852

Just for the hell of it, I tried my current FSC Code, which my Dealer printed out for me; however, as expected, it did not work on either the 2011 or 2012 version.

MadHolms 01-12-2012 07:56 PM

Well, that's a problem, you have the CIC High version of DVDs, while in your car you have CIC Premium. They might not work, but heck, who knows, maybe it will :)


anyway, can you share the 2012 version? :) I'll pay you $7

shawnsheridan 01-12-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MadHolms (Post 6558673)
Well, that's a problem, you have the CIC High version of DVDs, while in your car you have CIC Premium. They might not work, but heck, who knows, maybe it will :)


anyway, can you share the 2012 version? :) I'll pay you $7

No problem. CIC - HIGH = Premium. They are one in the same. :thumbup:

I am going to try and rip the DVD's to ISO images tomorrow. Afterwards, I will try and upload them somewhere. Between the 3 Discs, it's somewhere between 16gb and 24gb, so if someone has a public FTP (24/7) available, PM me. :bigpimp:

MadHolms 01-12-2012 08:27 PM

If you want I can help you with ripping the DVDs, also will prepare for you my FTP server. Will PM you in 20 mins.

cegeste 01-12-2012 10:37 PM

Thanks so much for the part number and update!

3284me 01-13-2012 03:30 AM

I may be wrong, but doesn't the 2011 models need the update on a USB stick?

shawnsheridan 01-13-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 3284me (Post 6559171)
I may be wrong, but doesn't the 2011 models need the update on a USB stick?

I don't believe a USB NAV Upgrade is possible. I think all you can do with the USB port related to the NAV is to transfer routes to it.

Technic 01-13-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 3284me (Post 6559171)
I may be wrong, but doesn't the 2011 models need the update on a USB stick?

No... it is either via DVD or by the dealer thru the MOST port.

shawnsheridan 01-13-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MadHolms (Post 6558750)
If you want I can help you with ripping the DVDs, also will prepare for you my FTP server. Will PM you in 20 mins.

Ripped, and 22gb in all its glory is being transferred to your FTP right now. It should land complete in about 3 hours. :bigpimp:

MadHolms 01-13-2012 10:03 AM

Yeah, I see it coming. :)
Thx!

shawnsheridan 01-13-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MadHolms (Post 6559743)
Yeah, I see it coming. :)
Thx!

The eagle has landed after her 4 hour flight.

The baton is yours now.:thumbup:

MadHolms 01-13-2012 01:59 PM

The eggs have been received. They matched the original color.
Waiting for mom to come and bring the door key!
Thx.

shawnsheridan 01-14-2012 12:37 PM

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Sweet success!:D

More details and pictures in my other post:


http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11139852

cegeste 01-14-2012 12:54 PM

Great news! So MadHolms, by chance will we be seeing the DVDs appear through another venue? I can upload to my rapidshare account if need be.

shawnsheridan 01-14-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cegeste (Post 6562075)
Great news! So MadHolms, by chance will we be seeing the DVDs appear through another venue? I can upload to my rapidshare account if need be.

I am guessing you have a RapidPro account, but what are the single file size, speed, and download limits for Free users? I thought about putting it up there, or on Megaupload, but I am not sure how practical it would be for Free users to download 22gb of data from them without having premium acccounts.

cegeste 01-14-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnsheridan (Post 6562100)
I am guessing you have a RapidPro account, but what are the single file size, speed, and download limits for Free users? I thought about putting it up there, or on Megaupload, but I am not sure how practical it would be for Free users to download 22gb of data from them without having premium acccounts.

I do have RapidPro. There are some tools that queue the waiting time for free users, but automate the whole process. Capacity is unlimited, just the download time is queued.

I'm also on demonoid, and can seed as I have a decent upload connection.

shawnsheridan 01-14-2012 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cegeste (Post 6562116)
I do have RapidPro. There are some tools that queue the waiting time for free users, but automate the whole process. Capacity is unlimited, just the download time is queued.

I'm also on demonoid, and can seed as I have a decent upload connection.

That's good to know. I thought there was a single file size limit of 400mb or something, and that pulling this down would be impractical.

I agree it would be good to have it available in a venue other than torrent for those unfamiliar with it. And thanks for offering to help MadHolms seed it, as the swarm will need it with 22 gb.

If I need to reupload it somewhere, just let me know, but I don't want to have to do it too many times as it was a 5 hour FTP job to get it to MadHolms, so it takes a while, and I have to deal with Comcast's BS monthly data cap too.


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