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mudilik 07-08-2011 12:28 PM

Will the wheels from E65/E66 fit Curent F01
 
I am trying to figure out if wheels from older E65 will fit my F01 7 series. I was pretty certain until I saw info below, that even bolts / offset are different. Is it right ?

http://www.wheelfitment.eu/steekmaat...0%29&merk2=BMW

http://www.wheelfitment.eu/steekmaat...8%29&merk2=BMW

Norinred 07-08-2011 05:25 PM

i want to know the answer to this question also,

TheGooch 07-08-2011 10:39 PM

I believe you can with Spacers

Wilassasin 07-09-2011 06:58 AM

No.....

mudilik 07-09-2011 08:35 AM

Can you please clarify why NO ? everything seems to match. Besides the offset.

mudilik 07-09-2011 08:38 AM

What I thought was an issue with Bolt thread, does not seem to be a concern (per explanation from a mechanic at BMW), so only offset is the issue. But it is a smaller offset so I thought this is a minor issue.

Db750 07-09-2011 11:21 AM

There were pictures posted here a few months back of a F01 with the 21" style 128 wheels designed for the E65 which leads me to believe that it is possible with modifications.

Db750 07-09-2011 11:36 AM

Here : http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=526373

mudilik 07-09-2011 12:13 PM

Thanks, just to note the thread you pointed out is made by Wilassasin and he posted here saying they will not fit. Hopefully he will take a look at this thread again.
The wheels I want to add are Style 93 / 18", I would like to use them as my winter set.

CobraCabbage 07-09-2011 12:14 PM

It can be done but it would require a lot of work ($). It also depends of the type of wheels and how extreme there offsets are. The only other car that has the same bolt pattern and offset as the F01/F02 is the Lexus LS460. But beware the Lexus has a smaller hub center.

csmeance 07-09-2011 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudilik (Post 6179006)
I am trying to figure out if wheels from older E65 will fit my F01 7 series. I was pretty certain until I saw info below, that even bolts / offset are different. Is it right ?

http://www.wheelfitment.eu/steekmaat...0%29&merk2=BMW

http://www.wheelfitment.eu/steekmaat...8%29&merk2=BMW

the offsets shouldn't matter that much since you can always change them with wheel spacers if needed. With a big setup like the old 7 and the current F01/02, it should clear the brakes fairly easily however it might need spacers to make it push out to the fenders

As far as the bolts go, it shouldn't be an issue as the bolts should still easily slide through the holes and as well keep the wheel secured on properly. The hubs should be the same size but I can't pull that info up at the moment.

Wilassasin 07-09-2011 07:00 PM

Contacted the dealer on this matter, and was informed that the wheels from the two different models were not interchangeable without some modification, i.e. spacers etc...However, we had a member with a 2008 e65/66 install some 19inch F01/02 wheels without a single issue...Go figure:dunno:

BMW Arabia 07-10-2011 07:51 AM

i saw the new B7 wheels on an e66 740Li !!

RepeatBMWGuy 07-11-2011 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mudilik (Post 6180460)
Can you please clarify why NO ? everything seems to match. Besides the offset.

Offset is everything in terms of wheel fit. For the E65 the ET (offset) is +24mm. This means that from the mounting point the center of the wheel needs to be 24mm towards the outside of the vehicle. The details on the F01 cars are:

Bolt Pattern: 5x120
Center Bore: 72.56
Hardware:14x1.50 Bolt
Offset:
Front: 15-25mm
Rear: 32-40mm

Generally speaking there is about 5mm to 7mm of give for the spec before rubbing issues are evident. So it would appear with spacers you could get away with the fit. Front wheels should fit perfectly its the back ones that will need the spacing.

Something else to consider is the hub center - its different on the F01/02 car vs the E65 - in terms of how far it sticks out. There is probably tollerance with most wheels, but you should keep it in mind while you experiment fit.

TXSTYLE 07-11-2011 09:21 AM

Why BMW would match the setup from the new LS is just whack. That car has terrible offsets for most wheels already available. You must go custom to look good.
That sucks my Vossens won't work when I move to a F01.

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Norinred 07-12-2011 01:02 PM

I asked this question to a guy at butler tire in ATL last weekend, He said the offset of the wheels are different, The Previous gen 7 wheels will stick out the sides of the car too much, giving you the jeep wrangler look. Also thats why the widest rim you can get for the new 7 is a 10.5" and for the old one is 11"

sanhonda22 07-19-2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norinred (Post 6186832)
I asked this question to a guy at butler tire in ATL last weekend, He said the offset of the wheels are different, The Previous gen 7 wheels will stick out the sides of the car too much, giving you the jeep wrangler look. Also thats why the widest rim you can get for the new 7 is a 10.5" and for the old one is 11"


This is what it is. The front shouldnt be the issue, the rear will. With the right tire sizes, 21" OE 128's may work. However, if you are trying to save some multi piece 22's from an E65/E66, you may get the rear to fit by changing the outer lip to a narrower one.

Spacers will push the wheels further out.

Rear wheel offset, wheel width and tire size is the deal breaker.

mudilik 07-21-2011 08:58 PM

The wheels I wanted to get are 18" with 245/45/18 all around. This would be my winter set. Can you please confirm that this would work as 18" rims are pretty narrow.

mudilik 07-22-2011 09:57 AM

If anyone get a chance please confirm if they would fit, I have to pick them up Saturday.

CobraCabbage 07-23-2011 05:06 AM

I looked at buying a used set of 3 piece wheels from an E65. Here is the list of changes required to make them fit properly.

Current Fitment @
Front @ 22x9.5, et+19, Rims 6.0 Inner w/3.5 Outer, PH0.75
Rear @ 22x10.0, et+12, Rims 6.0 Inner w/4.0 Outer, PH0.75

Per your request for fitment & Use on a
2011 750i BMW w/ H&R Sport Springs

We recommend the following adjustments.
Front / Shave Wheel Center Bolt Circle Pad from 0.75 less .100 to 0.65, Apply fitment @
22x9.0, PH0.65, Rims 6.0 Inner w / 3.0 Outer, New Offset +26.6
Rear / Apply fitment @
22x10.0, 7.0 Inner Rim w/ 3.0 Outer , PH0.75, New Offset +36.8

As you can see the changes are quite extensive and most professional shops are going to charge you at least $1200-1500 to do the work. The front wheels need to be machined and a new outer lip. The rears need a new lip and barrel. I found that it really wasn't worth it...

mudilik 07-25-2011 10:55 PM

I am still confused if 18" rims from BMW 745i E65 2008 would fit F01 2009. I understand the issue with large rims, but what about the size I mentioned 18" rims with 245/45/18 Tires ?

mudilik 07-27-2011 11:14 PM

Bump

CobraCabbage 07-30-2011 08:40 PM

IMO you should be fine with that size wheel. In the worst case scenario you may need spacers. But I would mount them before I made that decision.

7Max 07-30-2012 08:26 AM

Sorry still have no answer from another thread, will these fit an F01

BMW Breyton 9+10,5x21 5x120 et11


bolt pattern is good.

Sanj- 09-05-2012 11:08 AM

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will these asantis on the e70 fit my e65?

thanks


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