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FalconFlyer 01-16-2012 08:50 AM

AE Side by Side Comparison... and finally found a good one!!
 
Hello all,

With my small fleet... I can do a nice comparison between all the lights on the market, so this is the second part of the series. Please see the attached pictures, in the Z4 is the LUX AE LED light... which are the brightest on the market that I have been able to find. On the 3 series is the OEM AE LED lights.... and on the 7 series (the one on the right)... are the AlpineMSS HID light system.

I have to say I am extremely impressed with the AlpineMSS system (www.alpinemss.com). The kit is very high quality, they are just as bright and as white as the OEM AE LED lights on the 3, they blow away the LUX AE lights, are extremely easy to install. I am not that mechanically inclined and it took me about 20 min. Alex over at alpine was extremely responsive and is working on a bulb that is slightly lower wattage... however I am not sure if I will go with that. These simply look amazing. The inner halo is crisp and sharp... the photos do not do it justice. This system does not throw any codes and yes they do work on the 7.. just ask Alex.... They are so good I am ordering a set for my Z4 and my X....

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...DSCN0476-1.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...DSCN0475-1.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...DSCN0474-1.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...DSCN0473-1.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...DSCN0472-1.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...7/DSCN0471.jpg

DFEL750I 01-16-2012 11:09 AM

Look great!! I wonder if this would work for the E65\66 as well. We all have been looking for better solution than the MTEV V3s that most people are using right now.

mouivann 01-16-2012 11:16 AM

Are those the Alpine 8000K?

Thanks for sharing.

FalconFlyer 01-16-2012 12:14 PM

Hey Mouivann,

Yes they are....

One note, these AE lights will not dim at night.... which I personally like... car looks completely different now driving around

quarterto8 01-19-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFEL750I (Post 6565777)
Look great!! I wonder if this would work for the E65\66 as well. We all have been looking for better solution than the MTEV V3s that most people are using right now.

I have already emailed and spoken to alex. Currently they make nothing for the E65/66 but they might do one for me and see it would work out and then mass produce

N62B44 SGM 01-19-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quarterto8 (Post 6573495)
I have already emailed and spoken to alex. Currently they make nothing for the E65/66 but they might do one for me and see it would work out and then mass produce

:thumbup: : popcorn:

2012AH7 01-25-2012 05:40 PM

Hi Falconflyer,

Can you post some pics at night? A frontal and maybe one with head light on projected on a wall? Does the HID angel eyes cause unwanted glare for on coming traffic?

thank!

FalconFlyer 01-25-2012 05:43 PM

I will do that this week.... they are brighter than the normal AE lights at night.... and brighter than the OEM AE LED lights at night.... but since they are non directional (unlike a headlight they are diffused in all different directions), I have not had anyone flash me or anything. My wife who drives the X5... which is the next car to get the treatment was in front of me at night and had no issues..... other than.. they look awesome!

2012AH7 01-26-2012 03:02 PM

Thanks FalconFlyer. I'm looking forward to seeing those pics. BTW I'm also looking into this kit from Shmiedmann. http://www.schmiedmann.com/7_series/...indicators.htm Has anyone tried this one yet?

AdamG13 01-26-2012 05:14 PM

Looking good. I'm going to order a set of these for Big Black.

FalconFlyer 01-27-2012 10:04 AM

2012AH7... I would save your money. I have tried LED lights like this several times (the Alpine lights were the 7th I have tried)... they are not that bright and you cannot see them during the day.... Again.. just my opinion...

mouivann 01-27-2012 01:20 PM

Could you post some pictures of the X5 when you get them in? I have an X5 and like to see how they look.

Thanks

FalconFlyer 01-29-2012 02:07 PM

Hey everyone... I posted this over on the ZPost forum.. figured I would share. Just installed the lights on my Z4.. and also have them on my 7. The 7 is a little easier to install.. .anyhow... here is the report

I had a couple of requests for pictures of the Alpine MSS HID lights at night for comparison with the OEM AE LED lights. In addition some install pictures. I am completely sold on these units, they are as bright as the OEM AE LED lights and look amazing. They are fairly easy to install, it took me about 20 min... a little longer than my 7 series... because I was idiot and forgot to remove the spacer from the light bulb housing so they could fit in the Z4 (you don't do this on the 7).... ok for the pictures.

The first step is to install the wire to the red contact under the hood... the is easy.. from the right side of the red jump connector, you pull the plastic housing off...

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0479.jpg

I run the wire under the air box... there is a wire bundle under there and it is easy to zip tie the new wire onto (Alpine MSS provides the Zip ties). (Side note.. on the 7 series.. this is on the back left of the engine compartment {if you are looking at the engine from the front}.. so you run it under the plastic housing on the left side of the car {again if you are looking at the engine}. So basically the 7 is reverse than the Z.

You can see where I ran it in this picture. (time so far about 4 minutes installing)

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0480.jpg

Next you run the wire forward... at this point you will need to attached the ballast (the square metal thing) to something. Since I plan on tracking my car, I wanted to put it in a good plane. So the forward part of the left front wheel wheel well was perfect... and allowed me to wedge it between the metal and the plastic to give it more support. Again, this area is completely open.

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0486.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0481.jpg

It is time to cut the plastic covers... what I purchased was a 1/2 inch wood drill bit.. .the kid that is flat and looks like a shovel at the end with the point... that works great.. take about 10 seconds to cut the hole. At this point you need to install the lights... which is easy.. unless you don't watch the directions. For the Z4... MAKE SURE YOU REMOVE THE WHITE SPACER ON THE LIGHT BULB AND PUSH BACK THE RUBBER SEAL. If you don't.. you will be cursing to the end of time because their will simply be too much to try to compress to insert the light bulb. Anyhow, you insert the light bulb.. and pull the wire through with the seal.. the seal will just pop in place... as you can seen from the pictures...

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0482.jpg

You then have to run the wire across the top of the radiator (to the right side of the car)...... again... very easy to do... just make sure it is secured... you don't want it to fall down in the radiator fan (bad day).

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0483.jpg

Finally I found a spot to mount the other ballast ... again... very easy to do.. they are secured by extremely powerful double sided tape...

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0484.jpg

And do the same with the right side light plastic cup..

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0485.jpg

Someone ask me to post some pictures of the 335i and the Z4 with the Alpines installed... because they are concerned about glare. I tried to get them from all angles, but basically there is no difference between the two. Again, the 335i has the OEM LED AE lights...

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0489.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0491.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0492.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0498.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0494.jpg
http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/...D/DSCN0493.jpg

Please keep in mind.. that the design of the 335i lights and Z4 are different, that is why they look a little different in the side pictures..... all in all I have installed them on my 7 and Z... now I am ordering a set for the X5... Mouivann... I should have those completed next week....I am out of town this week....

SAMLAMBO 01-31-2012 08:03 AM

FalconFlyer,
Very nice setup and thanks for the elaborating. However I still find the inner rings on the 7 a little to bright, perhaps Alex's lower wattage should do the trick. I'd like to see how it looks in lower voltage and than decide between the two. The inner ring on your 3 series is not as bright as the new one's on your 7, unless my eyes are playing tricks one me.

Hyper559 01-31-2012 03:31 PM

I just got my AE lights put in from Alex, it looks great

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-f...75-k/photo.JPG

Hyper559 01-31-2012 03:47 PM

I just got my AE lights put in from Alex, it looks great

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-f...75-k/photo.JPG

FalconFlyer 01-31-2012 04:03 PM

SamLambo.... I think if you look closer at the pictures, you will notice the inner rings are not brighter than the other... It all depends on the angle... if you look at the Hyper559 pictures... they are completely even... and that is how they look in person....

SAMLAMBO 01-31-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FalconFlyer (Post 6600621)
SamLambo.... I think if you look closer at the pictures, you will notice the inner rings are not brighter than the other... It all depends on the angle... if you look at the Hyper559 pictures... they are completely even... and that is how they look in person....

Yes you are correct, I will email Alex. Thanks.

bruno787 02-01-2012 03:40 AM

Do the hids go dim when low beams are on?
Any possible issues with heat?

SAMLAMBO 02-01-2012 06:06 AM

I was told to be careful on the heat, any issues so far on the heat?

FalconFlyer 02-01-2012 04:07 PM

I have had no issues with heat... to be honest... I think they run cooler than the OEM lights. The lights do not go dim, they are either on or off.... every cool at night. I have had lots of positive comments.. now have it on my Z4 and 750Li..... this week the X5 will be fitted with them... It looks like a totally different car.. both during the day and night...

SAMLAMBO 02-01-2012 07:21 PM

FalconFlyer,
Alex suggest going 8000K, is that what your using?

FalconFlyer 02-01-2012 07:58 PM

Yep...., that is correct 8000k

SAMLAMBO 02-01-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FalconFlyer (Post 6603601)
Yep...., that is correct 8000k

Thanks!
Just placed an order for it. Will post pics once in and installed.

bruno787 02-01-2012 08:31 PM

Interesting.....so it still does the usual hid startup bluish to white glow?


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