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junji98 04-19-2012 06:24 AM

help with winter tires (and lease)
 
first time poster here, and new lease on an x5 35i here in canada. have been reading the boards regarding advice and it is a great forum!

i wanted some advice on winter tires. the dealership has offered me a 2nd hand pair of rims and tires used by a previous client. the tires and rim are still in excellent condition for 1/2 the price.

considering i am leasing for 4 years, with excess wear and tear package on the lease, does having a winter set make sense? im sure from a safety standpoint, some will definitely agree, but i am talking from a wear and tear standpoint. i leased a hyundai veracruz (thats what the x5 replaced) and i did not have a winter set with that; just all seasoners. and on returning of the vehicle, the treds were still good.

im just not familiar with the RFT's and whether it wears more quickly than regular tires. the bmw guy i am dealing with says that it is a good deal esp with the peace of mind of not having to replace the tires when i return the vehicle. but maybe if it will cost pretty much the same if i do have to replace it (when compared to this 2nd hand winter set he is offering) at the end of the lease? as i said, i did not have to do it with my last leased vehicle. im in no way an aggressive driver (i think!) and am hoping the tires last.

im a bit confused and would appreciate any input.

finally, i have a few more days to decide on the bmw rim and tire package. ive been reading threads on this and it seems consensus is 50/50. im thinking about purchasing this, but would again appreciate any more recent input on these.

thanks.

junji98 in toronto

jashearer 04-19-2012 06:31 AM

What wheel/tire combo do you have on your 35i?

Jay

junji98 04-19-2012 06:38 AM

i just have the standard 18 inch alloy wheels with rft's. the most basic all season tires. the winter tire set he is offering is also 18 inches. thanks!

jashearer 04-19-2012 07:11 AM

You're 18s with all seasons and xdrive should get you around fine in all but the worst weather.

Is the set of wheel/tires he's looking to sell you cheaper then a new set of runflats, as essentially your purchase is now hinged on buying a second set of tires. How long is your lease, from the sound of others, you probably will only get ~30-35k out of your stock tires so you'll probably need to replace before lease turn-in. Do some searching on your own to confirm though.

If you decide this combo is cheaper then buying new runflats at lease end (or you could swap to non-runflats now and keep your runflats for the turn-in) then you can essentially double the life of your runflats by swapping to the winter set for half the year and get the added benefits of better winter driving and have a set of wheels to sell at the end of the lease.

Just trying to put it into a cost benefit analysis for you.

Jay

CA328 04-19-2012 04:19 PM

I picked up a 18" set from Tire rack in the US (I am in Canada) in October 2011 and it came to only about CAD1,700 all in mounted and shipped to my door. mine are Bridgestone Blizzaks and have been excellent this past winter. They are not RFTs though.

All seasons may be OK in light snow but overall you are better off with winters. Driving back to back (all seasons vs winters) after changing over in my garage, winters beat all seasons hands down even in light snow.

i'm on 4 yr lease too with tire warranty....the dealer told me the tire warranty I got covers my winter tires too, not sure if your package is same as mine.

jashearer 04-19-2012 06:39 PM

Nobody will disagree that winters are better then all seasons, but all seasons bias towards winter tires as opposed to summer performance. You will not fly off the edge of a cliff in your awd x5 with all seasons....

Jay

junji98 04-20-2012 04:49 AM

Thanks for the info guys. Very helpful. Will have to make the decision soon. Did you purchase the tire and rim insurance from bmw as well? Im also on the fence on that one, but am leaning towards getting it.

Lake Guy 09-23-2012 08:01 AM

I also am new to the forum and have just bought a '12 X5 for my wife. I just ordered Yokohama Geolander tires for winter use. We live in norther BC where good winters are a must. I am a bit unsure of the rims though. My local tire guy (girl actually) is having a tough time getting rims for me. I was thinking of using the stock 18" rims for the winter and get some nice chrome 18"s to put the stock all seasons on. Anyone have ideas for me?

sarends 09-23-2012 10:53 AM

I have a 2011 X5 5.0 (just purchased 6 weeks ago - love it) and live in Colorado - we take frequent trips to the mountains in the winter so I plan to fit my factory 19" 335 rims with Nokian Hakkapelitta snow tires in the next few months. I have the Continental 4x4 Contact SSR run flats from the factory and IMO they are the weakest link in the car's handling (although I think the car's overall handling is phenomenal). And, this summer I plan to add some 20" wheels with the best handling summer tires I can (reasonably) afford.

I bought the X5 because, for an SUV, it has great handling and sporting performance in a vehicle that I will be driving a lot with my family. I have 5 kids and we spend a lot of time in an SUV. I LOVE driving, and I LOVE Bimmers, so in my opinion it doesn't make sens to pay the $$ that I did for an X5 and not have optimal tires. This is just my perspective and I know not everyone will want to pay the extra to have two complete set of rims and high end tires, optimized for each season.

How much snow do you get in Toronto?

Brother_Bluto 09-23-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lake Guy (Post 7091153)
I also am new to the forum and have just bought a '12 X5 for my wife. I just ordered Yokohama Geolander tires for winter use. We live in norther BC where good winters are a must. I am a bit unsure of the rims though. My local tire guy (girl actually) is having a tough time getting rims for me. I was thinking of using the stock 18" rims for the winter and get some nice chrome 18"s to put the stock all seasons on. Anyone have ideas for me?

Keep an eye on e-bay. My X5d has the 20's, but just picked up a full set of 19" OE #334 take-offs (wheels & the stock A/S RF tires) off ebay to use as my winter set. Paid $1200 and the tires have virtually no wear and wheels in perfect shape.


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