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NaplesBull 09-17-2012 02:01 PM

Is the look of the E92 outdated
 
Hi guys,

Just curious what your thoughts are on this as I'm going thru this current decision.

I'm wanting to get the 335is coupe but was really thinking about it over the weekend and starting to see an older body feel to the car after looking at the F30's. Part of me doesn't like the look of the F30 sedan, the back end doesn't seem very sporty. Usually it takes me some time to like a new bodystyle though.

So, maybe I thought asking here might bring up some thoughts that I haven't yet thought of. I really want the DCT as I fell in love with it after test driving it. If I get the F30, I realize I have to give that up. What I'm afraid of is owning the car for a year and then have the feeling of already owning an older car with a newer body style coming out.

Thoughts?

Zooks527 09-17-2012 02:33 PM

Some things stay attractive. I still like the '73 Mustang and the '78 - '82 Corvette.

I like the look of my E92, and I'm not thinking of moving out of it for a while. May become an issue as the miles roll up, but isn't now.


FWIW,
George

rdkind62 09-17-2012 02:38 PM

I think the E92 is a beautiful car and doesn't look dated at all. I think most people will not be able to tell the difference between the E92 and the F? (whatever they are going to call the coupe). If you can hold on for another year you will be able to get into the new coupe.

SuperTerp 09-17-2012 02:39 PM

I agree the refresh body you really need to be looking to tell a difference between that and the f30

Verts4Ever 09-17-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NaplesBull (Post 7079335)
What I'm afraid of is owning the car for a year and then have the feeling of already owning an older car with a newer body style coming out.

But you'll run into that with a new F32, because in four years after its release the LCI update will come out and you'll have the "dated look" issue again.

Besides, like rdkind said, the vast majority of people likely won't be able to tell the E92 from the F32. All indications are that BMW is going for an incremental change here, not an evolutionary one like E46 -> E92 (and many people still like -- if not outright prefer -- the E46).

laser 09-17-2012 02:59 PM

The 2009 E90 Sedan LCI refresh was certainly not eclipsed by the F30 and we decided to put off a planned update til the stop / start etc nonsense is resolved.

Don't know what the F32 will look like ..... no doubt a beauty ..... but so is the E92 and it won't turn into Cinderella .....

SuperTerp 09-17-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by laser (Post 7079447)
The 2009 E90 Sedan LCI refresh was certainly not eclipsed by the F30 and we decided to put off a planned update til the stop / start etc nonsense is resolved.

Don't know what the F32 will look like ..... no doubt a beauty ..... but so is the E92 and it won't turn into Cinderella .....

I'm in an x1 now while my car is being looked at (can not reproduce :( ), and sometimes you'd never know it was starting and stopping but most of the time when it starts back up it jerks like when you let go of a lawn mower and the thing has a somewhat violent shake... Not something I like.

cneighbor 09-17-2012 05:43 PM

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I recently purchased a new e92 and love the look. But I also love the e42 coupe...I would have both if my garage was big enough.

I think BMWs age more gracefully than most cars so I wasn't too concerned with the new 4 series coming out next year.

Personally, I just didn't like f30. Interior is too busy and cheap...IMHO. Ultimately, this is a very personal decision only you can make...good luck.

NaplesBull 09-17-2012 06:15 PM

All great points, thanks for the input

08 335Ci 09-17-2012 08:20 PM

The E9x is still a good looking car. Just look at the number of 'clones' the other manufactures are producing based on the E9x's lines.

catchabigone 09-18-2012 10:31 PM

I have a 2007 E92XI and drove an 2012 X-3 today as a loaner. The inside was really cheap feeling compared to my 2007 with maple instead of plastic. I know the diff. between a coupe and an suv but the feeling was different. It did not really feel like a BMW I was more than disappointed. I would not buy the 2012 if I had been shopping for an suv.

I still love my E92 and will for a while I hope, it is my first but not my last......

99328ic 09-19-2012 05:11 AM

Unless you lease the car or can afford the keep buying a new car every 4 years, something newer and better will keep coming out. Myself I buy what fits the budget, and what fits my life style at the time. I have no desire to keep up with the latest trends (that's all new things/ cars are). To me the E46 still looks great and is not all that dated looking (some will not have blue tooth, i-drive and the other tech toys new cars have). If you need the latest and greatest wait another year, or look at other makes M-benz, Acura etc have newer product lines out compared to the E9x line.

Speedwagon 09-19-2012 05:41 AM

Is the look of the E92 outdated

No way! :thumbup:

CALWATERBOY 09-19-2012 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NaplesBull (Post 7079335)
Thoughts?


The E9x is a timeless expression of Yin mated to Yang, exquisitely rendered with European flavor.

The F30 is homage to Japanese design.

Good Lord. Take your pick. Lexus Design is a much more consistant, organic whole for those concerned with looks.

Whatever you choose, DO eliminate the gap between the wheels and wheel arch! Lower your ride as the first order of business - your look will greatly exceed showroom appearance.

boltjaM3s 09-19-2012 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NaplesBull (Post 7079335)
Hi guys,

Just curious what your thoughts are on this as I'm going thru this current decision.

I'm wanting to get the 335is coupe but was really thinking about it over the weekend and starting to see an older body feel to the car after looking at the F30's. Part of me doesn't like the look of the F30 sedan, the back end doesn't seem very sporty. Usually it takes me some time to like a new bodystyle though.

So, maybe I thought asking here might bring up some thoughts that I haven't yet thought of. I really want the DCT as I fell in love with it after test driving it. If I get the F30, I realize I have to give that up. What I'm afraid of is owning the car for a year and then have the feeling of already owning an older car with a newer body style coming out.

Thoughts?

The E92 was a beautiful car, a breakthru in design and style, but that was 2006 and it's 2013.

Buying a car that's at the very end of a 7 year lifecycle is not what you want to do on many levels, the main one being that you'll have no experience of that "new car" feeling because come spring you're going to be seeing the F32 in the flesh and then on the roads. No one buys a 'new' used car, if you will. Like it or not, BMW's are status symbols, and nothing has less status than a 7 year old design. They still make brand new Members Only jackets; no one buys them.

You'll also feel in Year 2 and Year 3 what I call the "Bar Mitzvah" syndrome where every 18 year old with a new license wants to take his summer job money and buy a used, 10 year old E92, and you'll find yourself in a $50,000 car that your babysitter's boyfriend owns. It's not a pleasant feeling.

Two choices:

If you want a coupe, you need to trust that BMW is going to release a successor to the E92 that's better looking than the original. They always do. Wait it out a few more months.

If you want a sedan, look no further than the F30 as it's phenomenal on many levels, just now starting to hit the streets in number, feels and looks like a brand new car.

BJ

CALWATERBOY 09-19-2012 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Zooks527 (Post 7079400)
Some things stay attractive. I still like the '73 Mustang and the '78 - '82 Corvette.

I weep for your sensibilities, Zookie.

70's+ Corvettes are an overly dramatic femanization of red blooded American masculinity.

The pinnacle of design, sir, was the '67 Sting Ray. That cannot be denied.

beden1 09-19-2012 06:16 AM

I think the 335is is a special car, and it may be different if you were trying to decide between the 335i and the new F30.

I personally really don't like the overall looks of the F30, including the protruding front end, the stuck on fake chrome pieces, the headlights, and the visually cheapened interior. I have not driven one as yet, so I can't comment on that aspect. I also wait a minimum of 3 years into a model change until the manufacturer gets the bugs worked out of the new model.

I just purchased a new year-end Porsche 911 GTS convertible. It was a special package offered on the last car for the out-going model run as they were getting ready to launch their new model line. Very similar situation to what you're facing, and I made my decision based on many of the same issues. I also liked how my car looked and felt driving more than the new model, as well, it would have cost me 30%+ more for their new model to get the same options that my car has.

Speedwagon 09-19-2012 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by beden1 (Post 7082954)
I think the 335is is a special car, and it may be different if you were trying to decide between the 335i and the new F30.

I personally really don't like the overall looks of the F30, including the protruding front end, the stuck on fake chrome pieces, the headlights, and the visually cheapened interior. I have not driven one as yet, so I can't comment on that aspect. I also wait a minimum of 3 years into a model change until the manufacturer gets the bugs worked out of the new model.

So true!! +1

boltjaM3s 09-19-2012 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by beden1 (Post 7082954)
I think the 335is is a special car, and it may be different if you were trying to decide between the 335i and the new F30.

I personally really don't like the overall looks of the F30, including the protruding front end, the stuck on fake chrome pieces, the headlights, and the visually cheapened interior. I have not driven one as yet, so I can't comment on that aspect. I also wait a minimum of 3 years into a model change until the manufacturer gets the bugs worked out of the new model.

I just purchased a year end Porsche 911 GTS convertible. It was a special package offered on the last car in the out going model run as they were launching their new model line. Very similar situation to what you're facing, and I made my decision based on many of the same issues. I also liked how my car looked and felt driving more than the new model, as well, it would have cost me 30%+ more for their new model to get the same options that my car has.

You don't know what it's like to drive new cars so you're not giving very good advice here.

The OP didn't mention that he would like to save money; he said he was afraid of years of regret for deliberately choosing to be out-of-style needlessly. If he's having those feelings now he'll want to drive off a bridge in a year.

BJ

beden1 09-19-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by boltjaM3s (Post 7083146)
You don't know what it's like to drive new cars so you're not giving very good advice here.

The OP didn't mention that he would like to save money; he said he was afraid of years of regret for deliberately choosing to be out-of-style needlessly. If he's having those feelings now he'll want to drive off a bridge in a year.

BJ

I don't know what it's like to drive new cars? Every car in my signature was purchased new, with the exception of the 1967 MG Midget, the 1979 MB 300D, and the '04 MB S600 (the first owner took the huge resale value hit).

Verts4Ever 09-19-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by beden1 (Post 7083251)
I don't know what it's like to drive new cars?

You do realize he's intentionally baiting you, right?

beden1 09-19-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Verts4Ever (Post 7083599)
You do realize he's intentionally baiting you, right?

Right. According to BJ, he is the only one who drives a new car, even though his is now closing in on two months old. :thumbup:

Verts4Ever 09-19-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by beden1 (Post 7083672)
even though his is now closing in on two months old. :thumbup:

Two months? Sheesh, I'm surprised BJ would admit to driving such a pile.

After all, the F30 looked dated after five minutes off the production line. :rofl:

: popcorn:

bear-avhistory 09-19-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CALWATERBOY (Post 7082923)
I weep for your sensibilities, Zookie.

70's+ Corvettes are an overly dramatic femanization of red blooded American masculinity.

The pinnacle of design, sir, was the '67 Sting Ray. That cannot be denied.

+1 Kept my coupe for almost 30 years. :)

bear-avhistory 09-19-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boltjaM3s (Post 7082915)
You'll also feel in Year 2 and Year 3 what I call the "Bar Mitzvah" syndrome where every 18 year old with a new license wants to take his summer job money and buy a used, 10 year old E92, and you'll find yourself in a $50,000 car that your babysitter's boyfriend owns. It's not a pleasant feeling.

You would have to be a pretty shallow person for this to bother you.:thumbdwn:


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