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4given 09-30-2012 04:28 PM

Slight knocking.
 
There's a slight knocking coming from underneath the battery terminal that's mounted on the valve cover. Does it knock when the vanos is going out? It also rattles like a lifter from the same area for a second when I start it up in the mornings, but it goes away after the oil gets up to it.

4given 10-01-2012 07:41 AM

Ok, after hours of research I conclude that it's my Vanos. My next question is, how long can I drive with it ticking like this? Also, would replacing the seals be enough or should I buy new units? Thanks.

mbell666 10-01-2012 11:57 AM

Are you sure it is not the timing chain for the two cams? There is a chain between the two cams with a separate tensioner. I've never heard of that tensioner going but might make knock sound if tensioner failed.

Most common thing is the guide rails to fail, at a 99 car is probably in the correct mileage range for them to go. I think knocking sound is very obvious when they go. Timing chain tensioners is a don't drive situation. Test is to remove the sump pan and check for broken bits of plastic in the sump.

4given 10-01-2012 12:56 PM

The only thing I'm going by are YouTube videos. I've listened to a ton of clips of people's failing vanos and they all sound just like mine. Is there a way to get rid of Vanos all together? Thanks for the response.

jaladham 10-01-2012 01:39 PM

I love your line: "An e39 is like a beautiful wife, needs constant attention, lots of money, lets you down at the worse times but you'd never be without it."

made me laugh.

4given 10-02-2012 04:12 AM

Just changed my oil from pennzoil ultra 5w30 to pennzoil ultra 10w/30 and the noise has really gone down. Maybe my car doesn't like thinner oil.

Fudman 10-02-2012 08:06 AM

It does sound like you have a Vanos rattle. Unfortunately, Beisan does not have the bearing replacement for the V8 yet. They do have the seal kit for the V8 now. Going with thicker oil probably reduced the ability of the cylinders to move within the Vanos, reducing the rattle.

4given 10-02-2012 10:15 AM

So I need new Vanos units? Or should I go ahead and change the seals?

edjack 10-02-2012 01:41 PM

Visit the Besian web site, and browse the forum.

4given 10-02-2012 07:27 PM

Will do. Thanks for the tips.

4given 10-03-2012 06:55 AM

Just browsed the forums and I still can't figure out if I need to replace the vanos or if replacing the seals would be enough. How do you know when the vanos need replaced? Can I get rid of vanos all together?

4given 10-04-2012 03:46 PM

Anyone live near Carlisle, PA. that could help me replace these vanos units? Doesn't look that hard to do but I would like some assistance from someone that has done it before.

aspensilver540 10-04-2012 05:31 PM

Fud, have most of the I6 guys needed to replace bearings? I thought all that was needed was seals? The V8 guys seem to be going nuts on the other board over just seals. Maybe you can clarify?
for anyone wondering about beisan:
http://www.beisansystems.com/products.html

john@eac 10-05-2012 06:31 AM

If you do decide to do the repair yourself you can check our web site for parts prices. We also rent out the tools needed to set the timing.

4given 10-05-2012 07:09 AM

I might end up trying it myself. I called an independent BMW shop and they said it would cost around $3500 to do the job.

4given 10-05-2012 07:47 AM

Can you change the M62TU from Vanos to Non-Vanos?


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