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Slick Willy 10-10-2012 05:28 AM

Harman Kardon worth the upgrade?
 
Ordering a 335 and saw a CNET review where the guy talked about how awful the Harman Kardon stereo was in the 3 series. He is only one guy and reviews all sorts of cars....so who knows.

Anyone that is into tunes do any extensive comparison and have any quick input for me?

Anyone done the upgrade and been happy/unhappy with it?

Thanks in advance!

windsor027 10-10-2012 05:50 AM

I have it I have not had a chance to play with it yet nor listen to a CD. I will post when I do. the reason I got it was because my 07 E90 base system was average at best. I also have a base system in the X5, that one is better but nothing to get super excited about. I am hoping the HK is worth it.

tturedraider 10-10-2012 07:36 AM

I'm not a huge audiophile, but I hear parts of music with the HK system that I have not heard in previous cars. It would be a "definite get" on my options list.

justinnum1 10-10-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick Willy (Post 7124563)
Ordering a 335 and saw a CNET review where the guy talked about how awful the Harman Kardon stereo was in the 3 series. He is only one guy and reviews all sorts of cars....so who knows.

Anyone that is into tunes do any extensive comparison and have any quick input for me?

Anyone done the upgrade and been happy/unhappy with it?

Thanks in advance!

That guy is an idiot lol. It's one of the best cound systems in a car. On the other forum, an audiophile/installer did a massive review with instrumentation and said it's one of the best stock systems he has heard in a car

Must get.

windsor027 10-10-2012 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by justinnum1 (Post 7124839)
That guy is an idiot lol. It's one of the best cound systems in a car. On the other forum, an audiophile/installer did a massive review with instrumentation and said it's one of the best stock systems he has heard in a car

Must get.

Justin did he also give some setting for the equalizer? I remember someone did. if you have the link I am interested, I need to setup mine.

justinnum1 10-10-2012 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by windsor027 (Post 7124849)
Justin did he also give some setting for the equalizer? I remember someone did. if you have the link I am interested, I need to setup mine.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=752647
Here is a lil tid bit from the thread
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Is it worth upgrading to an $875 HK system?
My response is that it's one of the best OEM systems I've heard, but I would listen to it with my own music before ordering.

I find bright, forward systems fatiguing to listen to for long. The bass is a bit boomy. it's not as good as what we do, but it's one of the best stock systems out there. We will be offering a PnP trunk-sub option for this hk system as well as full cabin upgrades for the HiFi systems.


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So, you would say overall, the F30 HK system is a step up from the 2011 E90 HK system?
No. Two steps. It's very comparable to the Enhanced Premium system in the E9x M3 and M5. Bass is flabbier, less controlled, but louder.

I doubt we will get anyone wanting to upgrade HK systems other than demanding audiophiles. We will get many more wanting to add sub-bass, and of course we will get HiFi upgrade requests. If only I could get my hands on a 6-speaker car...

windsor027 10-10-2012 08:18 AM

Excellent thank you Justin.

g37to335i 10-10-2012 08:51 AM

I have the base in my x5 and that one is awful. If its the same as the 3 series then I would get the upgrade. I listened to one while test driving and the Hk sounded really good and worth the extra 800. I intend to upgrade to the Hk system.

AndDown 10-10-2012 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windsor027 (Post 7124849)
Justin did he also give some setting for the equalizer? I remember someone did. if you have the link I am interested, I need to setup mine.

It's in this thread:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...ht=hk+settings

Congrats on your new ride...we also have the AW color and it's one of the easiest colors to maintain, as well as the silver or gray, IMO.

lovemy330i 10-10-2012 09:14 AM

I used to drive a 2003 330i with premium everything, including H.Kardon sound. It was amazing! I now drive a 2001 330i with stock sound...big difference, from personal experience would totally get the upgrade! It's worth it...

Lorenzzo 10-10-2012 09:23 AM

If you listen to I-Pods you'll absolutely love the HK system. If you are an audiophile that listens to high end stuff in an acoustically adjusted room you'll be listening to a lot of talk radio.

It is a major improvement over the last HK system I had in my 08 550.

Lsg1114 10-10-2012 10:00 AM

I love my HK! It sounded great right out of the box during my ED. The really nice thing about it is that it plays uncompressed music!

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Deinonych 10-10-2012 10:00 AM

If you enjoy audio it is absolutely worth it. You aren't going to get the same experience as a high-end audio system in a dedicated room, but you'd never get that in a car.

The X Men 10-10-2012 12:20 PM

The HK system is probably the best $800 you will ever spend on a car.

boomn29 10-10-2012 12:26 PM

I'm a pretty big audio buff. I've got the HK option (it was on the car) and it's really good.

Now if I was ordering would I check the box? Not sure. I'd have to hear the base system first to compare. But the HK is very good.

Lsg1114 10-10-2012 12:38 PM

The base system is harsh on the ears. I'm not a super audiophile, but I do enjoy good sounding music. My initial order did not include the Harman kardon. I'm glad you guys talked me into getting it :).

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justinnum1 10-10-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The X Men (Post 7125430)
The HK system is probably the best $800 you will ever spend on a car.

Yep. And it's a lot better than the one in the e90

AlphaForceX 10-10-2012 04:06 PM

I have the base system and it's a POS! Upgrade if you have the money.

jlukja 10-10-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaForceX (Post 7125908)
I have the base system and it's a POS! Upgrade if you have the money.

You have an F30 with the base system?

I have to disagree. Although not what I would call audio nirvana, the base system is very good. Definitely not a POS. Much better than the system that came in my TSX (which I upgraded) or the systems I've heard in my friends vehicles. I have not heard the HK system in the F30 nor have I heard the systems that came in the E90.

windsor027 10-10-2012 04:43 PM

I had a chance to play with the setting today and still the jury is out for me. I can say its better than the C350s logic 7, which makes it worth it for me, but still need to fine tune it.

bmwf30 10-10-2012 06:14 PM

I have the HK as well. I used to have a bose audio upgraded kit on an old Nissan I used to own with a really powerful amp. Coming from that the HK is mediocre at best. So what I'm really saying is that don't expect it to blow your mind but instead consider it just as a nice upgrade to the base system. That being said, the HK was worth the upgrade for me because if I didn't do it the only other choice that I would've been stuck with was the base system. The sounds are a bit more refined and distinctive once you play around with the equalizer settings.

Hockeypuck 10-10-2012 06:18 PM

Yes. Unless you plan to upgrade on your own it is a no brainer if you listen to music.

alpinweiss 10-10-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hockeypuck (Post 7126169)
Yes. Unless you plan to upgrade on your own it is a no brainer if you listen to music.

Yes, and any good aftermarket setup will cost substantially more than the $875 HK system. Plan on spending at least a couple thousand, and probably more, for a premium quality upgrade.

:drive:

boltjaM3s 10-10-2012 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick Willy (Post 7124563)
Ordering a 335 and saw a CNET review where the guy talked about how awful the Harman Kardon stereo was in the 3 series. He is only one guy and reviews all sorts of cars....so who knows.

Anyone that is into tunes do any extensive comparison and have any quick input for me?

Anyone done the upgrade and been happy/unhappy with it?

Thanks in advance!

I'm in the minority here, but because my E90 sound system was so bleak the jump to the stock F30 stock system was mind-blowingly good. In the US, the stock system is an upgrade to the base system they have in Europe, so it's better than base but below HK, somewhere in the middle.

So my advice to you is this: If the $800 is going to stand in the way of you getting a really important option like the Lighting Package or the Technology Package or PDC and the Rear Camera, skip it and use the money towards those. If price is no object, go get it.

A car's cabin is not a great place to listen to music anyway, AM/FM/Satellite/iPod is all compressed as it is, I find that it gets to a certain level of above-averageness and that's enough.

BJ

328i2013 10-10-2012 11:24 PM

I got HK and it is decent. I would recommend it, especially if you like listening to more than just NPR.


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