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kc5 11-08-2012 02:56 PM

Replacement HL assembly has amber turn signal reflectors; OEM was clear
 
Both Xenon headlight assemblies on my '03 530i were replaced due to broken adjusters from a minor collision (insurance paid). My original turn signal round lens reflectors were clear with amber bulbs. Replacement headlight assemblies were ordered from Germany (none were available stateside through BMW) and the new ones have amber turn signal round lens reflectors with clear bulbs. My VIN was used in the order and the correct part number was given.

I prefer the look of the clear turn signal lens reflectors but I am stuck with amber. The good news is that the headlight assemblies came with all new bulbs, including the xenon bulbs, preinstalled.

Interestingly, there was another '03 530i at the shop that was built five months after mine and it had amber lens reflectors. I wonder if the lens color was changed in mid-year model cycle and the only replacements assemblies available now have the amber turn signal lens reflectors.

Does anyone know why the colors are different?

edjack 11-08-2012 03:39 PM

Sounds like you had aftermarket headlights.

kc5 11-08-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by edjack (Post 7184361)
Sounds like you had aftermarket headlights.

Not aftermarket. I bought the car new...special ordered it through the BMW dealer to get the manual transmission. It came from Germany with clear OEM headlight assembly turn signal reflectors.

Flybot 11-08-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edjack (Post 7184361)
Sounds like you had aftermarket headlights.

I was thinking the same thing. I thought only the euro models had the clear corners.

kc5 11-08-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Flybot (Post 7184557)
I was thinking the same thing. I thought only the euro models had the clear corners.

My corners were originally amber...I am talking about the small round turn signal reflector between the xenon bulb and the amber corner reflector.

Solo12 11-08-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kc5 (Post 7184306)
Both Xenon headlight assemblies on my '03 530i were replaced due to broken adjusters from a minor collision (insurance paid). My original turn signal round lens reflectors were clear with amber bulbs. Replacement headlight assemblies were ordered from Germany (none were available stateside through BMW) and the new ones have amber turn signal round lens reflectors with clear bulbs. My VIN was used in the order and the correct part number was given.

I prefer the look of the clear turn signal lens reflectors but I am stuck with amber. The good news is that the headlight assemblies came with all new bulbs, including the xenon bulbs, preinstalled.

Interestingly, there was another '03 530i at the shop that was built five months after mine and it had amber lens reflectors. I wonder if the lens color was changed in mid-year model cycle and the only replacements assemblies available now have the amber turn signal lens reflectors.

Does anyone know why the colors are different?

Not sure why, but you are correct there were two blinker versions. Have yours already been installed? You should be able order the other versions. This link has more information with part numbers courtesy of BayernKiwiBMW in an old thread. I am not sure if the part numbers are all correct, but it should help you narrow things down.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...68&postcount=8

The only other thing I can think of is if you have access to your old lights you should be able to swap the turn signal reflectors into the new headlights. Although given that you have a 2003 you may not be able to open them easily.

Your current ones look like these right?
Amber blinker w Amber corner (the blinker reflector is amber)
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1352443279

Your old ones looked like this right?
Clear blinker w Amber corner (blinker looks amber b/c of bulb & way pic was taken)
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1352443279

Close up of Clear blinker (ignore the fact that this is a clear corner euro version)
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1352443279

vs. Amber blinker
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1352443279


FYI there were 8 different combinations available 4 US versions and 4 Euro versions.

US DOT assemblies:

Halogen, clear blinker, lit amber corner
Halogen, amber blinker, lit amber corner
Xenon, clear blinker, lit amber corner
Xenon, amber blinker, lit amber corner:


European assemblies:

Halogen, clear blinker, unlit clear corner:
Halogen, amber blinker, unlit amber corner:
Xenon, clear blinker, unlit clear corner:
Xenon, amber blinker, unlit amber corner:

kc5 11-09-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Solo12 (Post 7184937)
Not sure why, but you are correct there were two blinker versions. Have yours already been installed? You should be able order the other versions. This link has more information with part numbers courtesy of BayernKiwiBMW in an old thread. I am not sure if the part numbers are all correct, but it should help you narrow things down.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...68&postcount=8

The only other thing I can think of is if you have access to your old lights you should be able to swap the turn signal reflectors into the new headlights. Although given that you have a 2003 you may not be able to open them easily.

Your current ones look like these right?
Amber blinker w Amber corner (the blinker reflector is amber)
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1352443279

Your old ones looked like this right?
Clear blinker w Amber corner (blinker looks amber b/c of bulb & way pic was taken)
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1352443279

Close up of Clear blinker (ignore the fact that this is a clear corner euro version)
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1352443279

vs. Amber blinker
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1352443279


FYI there were 8 different combinations available 4 US versions and 4 Euro versions.

US DOT assemblies:

Halogen, clear blinker, lit amber corner
Halogen, amber blinker, lit amber corner
Xenon, clear blinker, lit amber corner
Xenon, amber blinker, lit amber corner:


European assemblies:

Halogen, clear blinker, unlit clear corner:
Halogen, amber blinker, unlit amber corner:
Xenon, clear blinker, unlit clear corner:
Xenon, amber blinker, unlit amber corner:

Thank you very much for the info. The new ones have already been installed and look like the one in your first picture.

The plot thickens...

The independent BMW shop who did the work claim they ordered the replacements using my VIN. I just called my local BMW dealer and they said that my VIN shows I should have clear/white indicator reflectors with amber bulbs and they have a pair in stock. Unfortunately, the dealer will not do a trade...can't blame them really. I called my independent BMW shop back to see if they will make this right and get me the correct ones. They will have to discuss it with the owner and call me back Monday.

This whole thing is a pain in the arse and it is all because some idiot did not look when he backed up into my car while I was stopped behind him.

Flybot 11-09-2012 01:02 PM

Good info Solo12.

kc5 11-12-2012 08:39 AM

After I pointed out to my independent BMW shop that there are different versions, he double checked and admits he ordered the wrong part number and he will get me the correct version.

I am speculating the different versions are tied to the car's suspension type. Another '03 530i in the shop was non-sport suspension and has amber signal reflectors. My car has the sport suspension and has clear/white signal reflectors.

Had it not been for Solo12 I would have been stuck with blinker reflectors that were incorrect for my VIN. Thanks Solo12...great job! :thumbup:

Solo12 11-13-2012 09:00 PM

No prob just paying it forward. Yeah it a little detail, but I know it would have absolutely driven me nuts. That is a great shop by the way. Sounds like they are going to have your business for years to come.

I wanted to chime in to say in case you have not done so already buy some lamin-x or xpel headlight film to protect those new lights.


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