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Ionic202 11-09-2012 03:25 PM

New JB4 install
 
Installed the Stage 2 N55 JB4 tuner today. Not as easy as it is presented to do, but I got it done. I would have liked to see about 3" more cable as the last connector is pretty tight even with the cable run as well as I could get it. I don't think I will be removing it either for service. The dang connectors are a PITA to get apart to remove the wiring. Next step will be to get the USB connector into the glove box.

I would not have minded paying more for a Dinan tune or even getting a Cobb tuner. Too bad neither has any tunes for our F10 535i yet.

Now the fun, noticeably more "go" to the 535i xDrive. No comparison to my missed 2008 335xi with the Dinan Stage 2 tuning though. I will update a bit more as I drive around, but expect to have the same reaction as others that have done the Burger Stage 2 on their 535i.:thumbup:

PeterC4 11-10-2012 11:47 AM

Interested to hear some feedback on how it performs. I have the Stage 1 tune.

dunderhi 11-10-2012 02:59 PM

Congrats. The 535 guys are long overdue for getting some tunes

smashhell 11-11-2012 03:31 AM

Was it that hard to install?
Interested to hear result as well.

UAM 11-11-2012 09:41 AM

Congrats! I'm about to install mine this week.

Ionic202 11-11-2012 10:30 AM

Not what I would say a hard install, just those dang connectors are all difficult to take apart and you can expect some hand scraping to happen....

Very noticeable acceleration increase. I think drivability is better and my wife does as well. So far, I would still put it in.

PeterC4 11-11-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ionic202 (Post 7188598)
So far, I would still put it in.

Well said :thumbup:

Ionic202 11-12-2012 04:23 PM

Enjoying the resonse of the JB4 still. I will keep it in there until I go either Cobb or Dinan with ECU tuning if either of those is ever released.
Questions for other JB4 users:
Do you think Map 5 is better than Map 1?
Have you been able to run the USB cable into the glove box easily? I have not found the easy way into the interior that is posted over on N54tech for a 2011. Do I need to open up the ECU to find that hole?

Alan L. 11-12-2012 08:39 PM

According to Terry F10 owners should only use Map 1 unless something changed recently

Alan

BigDeep1 11-12-2012 09:13 PM

Congrats!! I am looking forward in hearing your thoughts after the tune and vehicle have gotten past the honeymoon period :).

I should know the answer to this, but what is the boost with Map 1 on the JB4?

I am still debating if it is even worth getting the stage 2 over the stage 1. There is no need or real use with switching to different maps on the F10 n55. I can bump up the boost on the Stage 1.

bighungry618 11-13-2012 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDeep1 (Post 7191521)
Congrats!! I am looking forward in hearing your thoughts after the tune and vehicle have gotten past the honeymoon period :).

I should know the answer to this, but what is the boost with Map 1 on the JB4?

I am still debating if it is even worth getting the stage 2 over the stage 1.

MORE HORSES! MORE TORQUE!

I have the Stage one, and I want MORE, ordering the stage two upgrade kit as soon as she's back from service. (and yes I unistalled it for service) It really only takes about 10 minutes if you have the right tools.

FYI: If you already have the stage one, the stage two is only $150 plus a $20 core charge refunded when you return the stage one control box. IMHO the upgrade is a no brainer.

ModBargains.com 11-13-2012 08:58 AM

For those of you who are looking to tune your N55 535i/xi, you might want to also check out the new Scorcher module from aFe. It works as a piggy back system as well and it is much easier to install vs the BMS product. The aFe Scorcher module will put out 40hp and 80lbs x ft torque on the N55. It's relatively easy to install and uninstall and can be done in 30 mins. You can check out the (installation guide here).

http://afepower.com/catalog/77-46301/77-46301_400.jpg

Alan L. 11-13-2012 09:12 AM

The install looks 100% identical to the BMS stage 1 setup. Curious to see customer dynos on this since i wasn't aware Afe had the capacity to tune engines...

Alan

bighungry618 11-13-2012 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan L. (Post 7192140)
The install looks 100% identical to the BMS stage 1 setup. Curious to see customer dynos on this since i wasn't aware Afe had the capacity to tune engines...

Alan

Indeed it does look mostly identical and from what I can tell about from only looking at it online is that it looks like a sealed unit, without the capacity for future upgrades (without removing the harness) and doesn’t have the interface features of the JB4.

I couldn’t find a price on ModBargains to do a HP and torque to $ value.

FYI: ModBargains has both the stage 1 and stage 2 BMS JB4 tunes as well, although I could find no info about core charges/refunds,

ModBargains.com 11-13-2012 10:13 AM

aFe does make performance parts from intakes, downpipes, exhausts, and now to tunes! The aFe scorcher module is pretty affordable at and are listed for $475 + shipping.

bighungry618 11-13-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModBargains.com (Post 7192263)
aFe does make performance parts from intakes, downpipes, exhausts, and now to tunes! The aFe scorcher module is pretty affordable at and are listed for $475 + shipping.

Dyno:
http://www.modbargains.com/images/E9...46304F1600.jpg

Yikes: 69.69 Tq and 9.4 hp to the wheels.....for $479 :dunno:
Maybe my math is wrong but it seems for the money and flexibility the JB4 stage one with 30hp and 60tq is a better deal.
Although thats a beefy torque increase for the AFE tune!

Quacker 11-13-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModBargains.com (Post 7192111)
For those of you who are looking to tune your N55 535i/xi, you might want to also check out the new Scorcher module from aFe. It works as a piggy back system as well and it is much easier to install vs the BMS product. The aFe Scorcher module will put out 40hp and 80lbs x ft torque on the N55. It's relatively easy to install and uninstall and can be done in 30 mins. You can check out the (installation guide here).

http://afepower.com/catalog/77-46301/77-46301_400.jpg

Maybe it's me, but I think jumping in the middle of a member's thread about his install to advertise a competing system sold by the interloper (A.K.A. hijacking for commercial purposes) is pretty crass behavior. No?:nono:

bighungry618 11-13-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quacker (Post 7192520)
Maybe it's me, but I think jumping in the middle of a member's thread about his install to advertise a competing system sold by the interloper (A.K.A. hijacking for commercial purposes) is pretty crass behavior. No?:nono:

Actually Q,

ModBargains is forum sponsor. I don't see their post as a hijack per se. They are just offering a different option to those who may be considering a JB4.

Incidentally they also sell the JB4 stage 1 and stage 2 on their site, cheaper (slightly) to boot.... Innocent post IMO.

Quacker 11-13-2012 12:41 PM

Hi BH,

My opinion differs from yours on this matter. I would be interested to hear from the tread starter on this. I would be happy to honor his opinion since it's his thread.

Regards -

bighungry618 11-13-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quacker (Post 7192611)
Hi BH,

My opinion differs from yours on this matter. I would be interested to hear from the tread starter on this. I would be happy to honor his opinion since it's his thread.

Regards -

Hello Q,

You do realize of course that we have now hijacked this thread....:angel: I was just pointing out that they also sell the competitors tune. I think we are more guilty of thread takeover than ModBargains. Agree to disagree,

My apologies to the OP and to you for any perceived slight.

Ionic202 11-13-2012 05:26 PM

I agree with Q. This thread is about my install of the JB4 and questions and experiences I and others have about the install and use. But, in the end whatever floats your boat. It is an open forum I guess.:rolleyes:

UAM 11-13-2012 06:04 PM

Just installed the jb4 and it's great.

PeterC4 11-13-2012 06:14 PM

Do you have Stage 2? If so did you go from Stage 1 up?

ModBargains.com 11-13-2012 07:48 PM

We carry both the BMS and aFe products and this is an open forum for discussion. The OP mentioned other tunes such as the Dinan and Cobb and I'd just thought I'd point out at there are other options out there for you N55 535 owners.

The BMS stage 1 tune is the only option that currently works on the N55 535i/xi models. From what I know, the stage 2 is not officially released for the N55 535i/xi models and is currently in testing. I'm sure that it will be officially released soon.

UAM 11-13-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterC4 (Post 7193290)
Do you have Stage 2? If so did you go from Stage 1 up?

Went straight to stage 2 skipped stage 1


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