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littleengin 11-10-2012 05:09 AM

Engine Oil Preference
 
I have been using the OEM BMW oil foe the past 2 years. What other options do I have? What do you use? Cold weather?

al_macaroni 11-10-2012 06:12 AM

I just changed my oil and used LiquiMoly 5w-30.

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bmwbob89 11-10-2012 11:17 AM

If you want to save money use Valvoline 5w-30 Synthetic. You can get it at Wal-Mart pretty cheap. Its BMW approved. I use it in all my cars and my customers.

AzNMpower32 11-10-2012 11:55 AM

Castrol 0W-30 since the very beginning for all our BMWs. Works for all climates.

Supercourse 11-10-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwbob89 (Post 7187313)
If you want to save money use Valvoline 5w-30 Synthetic. You can get it at Wal-Mart pretty cheap. It's BMW approved. I use it in all my cars and my customers.

Is it for sure?

There may be a difference between the European version (Pic. 3) that was added to BMW's list and what is available here from WalMart (Pic. 1), Amazon (Pic. 2), etc.

http://www.valvolineeurope.com/engli...synpower_5w-30

Discussion on another Bimmerfest forum:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=483430

Might be a perfectly good oil though.

bmwbob89 11-10-2012 12:43 PM

BMW Long-life rating LL-01 Approved Synthetic Oils for the US Market:

Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30

Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40

Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30

Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30



Use only oils with an API rating of SM or higher.

bmwbob89 11-10-2012 01:04 PM

I just went out and looked at the bottles of Valvoline I have and they do not say LL-01 on them. So I guess if your going to go 15k on an oil change you might want to look at the Mobil 1 label and see if it's LL-01. I have not had any issues with the Valvoline and some of my customers go 15k on it. I may switch to Mobil 1. They have that at Wal-Mart too.

x3brian 11-10-2012 01:54 PM

I use the BMW oil cheap, easy to get and works.

Supercourse 11-10-2012 01:58 PM

That's too bad. Valvoline should really avoid any confusion and either label the bottles with LL-01 if it is, or not call it SynPower if it is not the same as the European one.

Pennzoil does it correctly with their European Formula qualification on the label.

Or, in the case of Castrol and their re-naming of their Syntec line, the Castro Edge with SPT in 0W30 and 5W40 is LL-01 approved whereas other Edge grades are not.

Not on BMW's list yet, but that might just be timing, or something to do with meeting the ACEA A3, B3 and B4 spec. as well.

But you might find this is a better price than Mobil 1 0W40 at Walmart.

jdauria 11-10-2012 03:54 PM

Just save yourself the headache and stay with OEM or LiquiMoly...<$50 for 7 quarts

fivepointnine 11-10-2012 11:24 PM

I do M1 0/40 every 7500 miles

nightmareuki 11-10-2012 11:37 PM

how often do u change it? i stick with castrol 0-30 if a can find the European formula or OEM ever 7500 miles

ducx3 11-11-2012 12:51 AM

I use Amsoil European Formula LL-01. While we're at it, has anyone had their oil tested? I'd like to compare notes if so.

brewder 11-11-2012 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by al_macaroni (Post 7186898)
I just changed my oil and used LiquiMoly 5w-30.

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LiquiiMoly isn't LL-01 approved, but it's what I use as well. As long as you keep to a moderate change interval, (7.5k), I'm told it works just fine.

al_macaroni 11-11-2012 06:28 AM

I've read good things about Liqui-Moly oil. Bav Auto has a good write up on it.

Here is some additional information from the LiquiMoly website

http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/p...cument&land=DE


General info site
http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/web.nsf/id/pa_eng_home.html?OpenDocument&vCMSTemplate=mobile

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x3brian 11-11-2012 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ducx3 (Post 7188166)
I use Amsoil European Formula LL-01. While we're at it, has anyone had their oil tested? I'd like to compare notes if so.

Not yet but I have a black stone lab kit on my workbench for my next oil change.

mrsanchez3 11-11-2012 07:10 AM

I use the M1 0/40. I change it every 7500 or once per year. Whichever comes first. I also change the filter about every 3750 or 6 months.

jdauria 11-11-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsanchez3 (Post 7188319)
I use the M1 0/40. I change it every 7500 or once per year. Whichever comes first. I also change the filter about every 3750 or 6 months.

This is what I do but use BMW Synthetic. 7500 mile changes and another filter in between

ducx3 11-11-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by x3brian (Post 7188302)
Not yet but I have a black stone lab kit on my workbench for my next oil change.

Alright, pm me when you do and we can compare notes.

nightmareuki 11-11-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ducx3 (Post 7188962)
Alright, pm me when you do and we can compare notes.

there are many oil reports posted here for X3, even few by me

littleengin 11-11-2012 08:21 PM

Thanks for the recommendations. I think I will try M1. Filter change every 3000 huh?

AzNMpower32 11-11-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by littleengin (Post 7189285)
Thanks for the recommendations. I think I will try M1. Filter change every 3000 huh?

Everyone's got different expectations and beliefs on maintenance intervals (do a search, it's been oft-debated). Many do the half-way interval change, others more often, others less so.

x3brian 11-11-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AzNMpower32 (Post 7189304)
Everyone's got different expectations and beliefs on maintenance intervals (do a search, it's been oft-debated). Many do the half-way interval change, others more often, others less so.

So true...21 responses and virtually all of us have slightly different opinions on this. I learned a few years ago not to get into an oil change debate on an enthusiast forum..

The one consistent theme is none of us go the entire BMW oil change duration. Use the oil you prefer...if you go with none ll01 approved synthetic oil change at 5k to 7k miles. Dyno oil 3k.

Me personally...I just pick up oil and filter at my local dealer and change around 7500. I like the consistent oil type usage on my motor. I have had oil related issues with domestic cars in the past and was only ever able to draw root cause to 1) manufacturing defect that magically started at 43k miles or 2) my inconsistent use of multiple brands of dyno oil every 3k miles as I bought what ever brand was on sale that particular day that I changed the fluid.

mrsanchez3 11-12-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x3brian (Post 7189498)
So true...21 responses and virtually all of us have slightly different opinions on this. I learned a few years ago not to get into an oil change debate on an enthusiast forum..

The one consistent theme is none of us go the entire BMW oil change duration. Use the oil you prefer...if you go with none ll01 approved synthetic oil change at 5k to 7k miles. Dyno oil 3k.

Me personally...I just pick up oil and filter at my local dealer and change around 7500. I like the consistent oil type usage on my motor. I have had oil related issues with domestic cars in the past and was only ever able to draw root cause to 1) manufacturing defect that magically started at 43k miles or 2) my inconsistent use of multiple brands of dyno oil every 3k miles as I bought what ever brand was on sale that particular day that I changed the fluid.

Perfect summation.


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