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RPsX5d 11-14-2012 02:46 PM

iPhone 5 - Streaming Bluetooth (BT) Audio In a X5 Without BT Enabled CIC / Combox
 
Thought this post might help folks who are trying to stream music via Bluetooth (BT) in a X5 that is *not* equipped with a BT audio enabled CIC/Combox (i.e. no built-in A2DP).

My objective:
  • Stream audio from my iPhone 5 without having to connect any cables each time I step into the car AND use the phone like I always did via iDrive and steering controls. (Yes iPhone 5 can connect to two BT devices simultaneously)
  • Use devices I already own and keep the cost down to the barest minimum.

What I already had:
  • 2011 MY X5, June 2010 build, came with this Y-cable. My June 2010 built X5 does not have BT audio . . . BT audio started showing up after October 2010 build date
  • iPhone 5 - it has the lightening connector, does not fit the Y cable.
  • An old iPod from the junk pile whose battery is shot

What I had to buy:
  • Scosche USB charger that plugs into the cigarette lighter This is a low profile USB charger - if you use it in the socket next to the ashtray the sliding cover will *not* slide shut.
  • Note - not all USB chargers are the same - read this. Your choice will depend on whether you have an Android device or an Apple device and whether you want to charge at full power.
  • Blackberry Music Gateway - I was very surprised with the sound quality - I was expecting BT to degrade the sound quality.
  • Yes I could have used the lightening to 30-pin connector adapter to connect my iPhone 5 to the existing Y-cable . . . but that still meant I have to manually connect my iPhone 5 each time I stepped into the car.
To avoid any sound quality degradation I still have my iPod inside the armrest compartment.

If I didn't want to switch back and forth between the audio outputs from the BB Music Gateway and the iPod, I could use a switch like this one. Not sure whether using this switch will degrade the sound quality . . . . or if there is a better solution to plug two audio devices to the same 3.5mm audio jack inside the armrest compartment. I didn't want to try a simple splitter (like this one used to share an iPad) . . . I will be using it in reverse - instead of splitting one source into two listening devices, I am connecting two devices to one listening device. Not sure whether this will damage the car and/or the connected audio devices, hence did not try it. Comments anyone?

If others have other solutions or ideas to further improve the set up I describe above, please chime in.

PS: I listen to NPR all the time - NPR has a great iPhone app . . . I load the playlist before I get to the car . . . this way I can easily time-shift my favorite shows.

AutoUnion 11-14-2012 06:40 PM

Yup, I was just going to say that you can use an A2DP audio gateway.

It's a shame that A2DP came to the X5 so late

smyles 11-15-2012 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutoUnion (Post 7195497)
Yup, I was just going to say that you can use an A2DP audio gateway.

Any recommendations on which to purchase, besides the BlackBerry one?

AutoUnion 11-15-2012 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 7196315)
Any recommendations on which to purchase, besides the BlackBerry one?

Nope. Everywhere I look, they suggest the BB one because it's sold at a good price and of high quality. The MB, VW, and Audis used the same gateway before A2DP was introduced.

I looked on Amazon, and there are tons of them from Belkin, Sony, etc.

RPsX5d 11-15-2012 09:18 AM

+1

I personally don't like BB, so looked to see if others made similar devices . . . everything I read pointed to this BB device.

Sound quality is very subjective - unless one has a very keen ear, one may not notice the difference - i.e. spend money on audio to match your hearing ability.

For talk shows, news programs and podcast I can barely tell the difference between using this BB device and plugging the iPhone straight into the audio jack. Sound quality is impacted more by poor cell coverage than by this device.

I don't know how well this BB Gateway compares to the built-in A2DP in newer cars . . . if I get a loaner that has A2DP I will report back.

bimmerdude7 01-05-2013 12:48 AM

Sound quality is very impressive compare to 2-3 other devices i tried. The only problem with all of them is that iphone starts playing automatically when the car starts.

Thanks for the tips.

onebadgix 01-07-2013 09:32 AM

Thanks! :thumbup:

Jarockster 01-09-2013 08:13 AM

I use this BT receiver with my iPhone / iPad / Android and it works great. Very slim profile too!

gregsX5 01-09-2013 08:37 AM

A coworker just installed this, and works great. You can't beat it for 15 bucks!
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

(Just be sure to order a male-to-male USB cable with it, for power.)

smyles 01-09-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregsX5 (Post 7300721)
A coworker just installed this, and works great. You can't beat it for 15 bucks!
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

From user reviews, you have to manually connect to it every time you get in your car. Not very convenient (I know I know, 1st world problem, but still).

gregsX5 01-09-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smyles (Post 7300782)
From user reviews, you have to manually connect to it every time you get in your car. Not very convenient (I know I know, 1st world problem, but still).

Not true. It connects automatically when you power it up (i.e. turn on the ignition).

AutoUnion 01-09-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregsX5 (Post 7300721)
A coworker just installed this, and works great. You can't beat it for 15 bucks!
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

(Just be sure to order a male-to-male USB cable with it, for power.)

I think the RIM one might be better. I don't trust monoprice's quality.

smyles 01-19-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregsX5 (Post 7300721)
A coworker just installed this, and works great. You can't beat it for 15 bucks!
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Ok, I got this unit and after few days of use I can definitely recommend it. It's not pretty and rather bulky - I assume it's due to AC adapter inside, - but the sound quality is surprisingly good, it remembers multiple devices and does connect automatically, although the latter is not 100% as when tested on a blackberry the phone prompted for connect manually... maybe there's a setting somewhere to address it, dunno, let blackberry fans deal with it... :dunno:

skiier3_9 01-20-2013 10:58 AM

With the monoprice or other BT audio devices, does it let you control the phone via the BMW radio/steering wheel? For example - can can you skip tracks, go back/forth, see the album art, etc. or does that all have to happen via the phone?

I'm looking at a 2010 X5 and if the BT audio stuff is limited until the MY11 models (after the date above) - I may hold off...

smyles 01-22-2013 04:50 AM

No, it's just for audio transmittal.

RPsX5d 01-22-2013 10:24 AM

+1 . . . only volume control can be done via the steering controls, everything else via the iPhone.

An interesting feature - my iPhone 5 establishes two BT connections - one with BB Music Gateway for music and the other with the car's BT (X5 MY2011, June 2010 build) for telephone. When a call comes in it does the right thing - mutes the music BT and the phone works like it always did via the car's speaker/microphone and you can hang up using iDrive, etc. Once the call is completed it flips back to the BB Music BT and resumes the song.

I suspect this switching back and forth feature between two BT channels is phone specific . . . may not work the same on older phones.

philooo 04-13-2013 06:15 PM

Is there any hack that can be done via BMW coding or other 3rd party reseller to retrofit the A2DP blue tooth streaming to early build 2010 X5 ?

I'd love to avoid using all these small gizmos if I can...

Bmiah05 04-17-2014 11:28 PM

Is there way of having BMW changing the radio unit it self ??


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