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JDMwizkid 12-07-2012 08:21 AM

Crank fan delete
 
what is needed to do a crankshaft fan clutch and blade delete?

jonesin 12-07-2012 08:27 AM

Google-fu is the only thing you need.

http://i47.tinypic.com/29fe99f.jpg

JDMwizkid 12-07-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesin (Post 7235986)
Google-fu is the only thing you need.

http://i47.tinypic.com/29fe99f.jpg

i guess im not understanding.. what do you mean?

southpark11235 12-07-2012 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMwizkid (Post 7235973)
what is needed to do a crankshaft fan clutch and blade delete?

Please do not do it. The cooling system in e36's is the weakest part and you are talking about making it weaker.

jonesin 12-07-2012 08:41 AM

I'm saying to use the search function.

Not only will it tell you step by step how to do this (as it has been covered no less than 50 times) but will also tell you as alluded to above, why it is a bad idea.

E36 Phantom 12-07-2012 08:42 AM

The funny thing I've never understood about this is......what exactly do you think you're gaining?

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jonesin 12-07-2012 08:42 AM

http://i50.tinypic.com/2lt3n5v.png

JDMwizkid 12-07-2012 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southpark11235 (Post 7236003)
Please do not do it. The cooling system in e36's is the weakest part and you are talking about making it weaker.

i have the stage 3 cooling refresh kit from ecs tuning.. would you still recomend not doing it?

jonesin 12-07-2012 08:52 AM

/thread.

JDMwizkid 12-07-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E36 Phantom (Post 7236016)
The funny thing I've never understood about this is......what exactly do you think you're gaining?

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i want to take the weight off the crankshaft but idk if it would be an ulpgrade or downgrade

E36 Phantom 12-07-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMwizkid (Post 7236044)
i want to take the weight off the crankshaft but idk if it would be an ulpgrade or downgrade

And what will that accomplish? The crankshaft has much stronger forces exerted on it several times a second.

Not only is that weight negligible in operation, the crank bearings were designed with that load in mind. I don't heat of a lot of crank bearing failures, do you?

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JDMwizkid 12-07-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E36 Phantom (Post 7236047)
And what will that accomplish? The crankshaft has much stronger forces exerted on it several times a second.

Not only is that weight negligible in operation, the crank bearings were designed with that load in mind. I don't heat of a lot of crank bearing failures, do you?

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ok i got another question.. my fan clutch bearing lost a couple balls and was wobbling around.. the bearing has not failed but idk how close it is to failure.. so im askin if i should replace it or take that weight off?

BMRfanatic 12-07-2012 09:10 AM

No, the pump lost bearings cause either its old/worn. or your fan might be missing a blade or two...


I dont have a clutch fan, but i dont think theres much of a difference

ZeGerman 12-07-2012 09:28 AM

It definitely does not make any practical sense to remove your fan, and is making an already extremely weak cooling system even weaker.

And if your fan clutch bearing has "lost a couple balls", I wouldn't even drive the car like that. If it gives out while the engine is on, it could send the fan flying into the radiator, hood, hoses, etc, thus making a $30 & 15 minute repair much more costly.

JDMwizkid 12-07-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dino1394 (Post 7236080)
No, the pump lost bearings cause either its old/worn. or your fan might be missing a blade or two...


I dont have a clutch fan, but i dont thinks theres much of a difference

what do you mean you dont have a clutch fan? do you have a direct fan or something?

BMRfanatic 12-07-2012 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMwizkid (Post 7236116)
what do you mean you dont have a clutch fan? do you have a direct fan or something?

like theres no fan connected to my waterpump.

JDMwizkid 12-07-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dino1394 (Post 7236124)
like theres no fan connected to my waterpump.

did you delete it? what does it look like?

Kdoherty 12-07-2012 10:31 AM

this thread hurts my brain....

STAHP

BMRfanatic 12-07-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMwizkid (Post 7236148)
did you delete it? what does it look like?

Look under your hood. Then ignore the fan. And picture thr waterpump with only a threaded nut sticking out lol





Quote:

Originally Posted by Kdoherty (Post 7236250)
this thread hurts my brain....

STAHP

Lolz

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Kdoherty 12-07-2012 11:01 AM

Also to the OP (that's you JDMdudewhatever) the clutch fan weighs so little that you will get NO extra power by removing it. The electronic fan is meant to supplement the belt driven one, and not perform the whole duty. Our engines are very susceptible to overheating, and once you do you'll either wreck the head which is bookoo dollars or you'll blow the head gasket which is nearly as expensive to repair if you can't do it yourself. So to save yourself money in the long run, not to mention the brand new radiator you're probably planning to install, replace the damn fan and fan clutch

i searched it for you and took LESS than 5 minutes

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...ch%20%20%20%20

^fan clutch

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...ch%20%20%20%20

^fan

EDIT: You'll also need a new waterpump if there's a ball bearing missing. http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...0Each%20%20%20

BMRfanatic 12-07-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kdoherty (Post 7236312)
Also to the OP (that's you JDMdudewhatever) the clutch fan weighs so little that you will get NO extra power by removing it. The electronic fan is meant to supplement the belt driven one, and not perform the whole duty. Our engines are very susceptible to overheating, and once you do you'll either wreck the head which is bookoo dollars or you'll blow the head gasket which is nearly as expensive to repair if you can't do it yourself. So to save yourself money in the long run, not to mention the brand new radiator you're probably planning to install, replace the damn fan and fan clutch

i searched it for you and took LESS than 5 minutes

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...ch%20%20%20%20

^fan clutch

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...ch%20%20%20%20

^fan

EDIT: You'll also need a new waterpump if there's a ball bearing missing. http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...0Each%20%20%20

This.

In shorter words, dont remove it, replace the broken stuff.

Have piece of mind

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southpark11235 12-07-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMwizkid (Post 7236042)
i have the stage 3 cooling refresh kit from ecs tuning.. would you still recomend not doing it?

By "stage 3 cooling refresh kit" do you mean this one. if so the Stewart pump should last for ever. Are you sure it is failing? Also did you change the fan clutch and blade when you refreshed the cooling system. If so and the wobble started right after you refreshed it then maybe you installed something wrong.

JDMwizkid 12-07-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southpark11235 (Post 7236725)
By "stage 3 cooling refresh kit" do you mean this one. if so the Stewart pump should last for ever. Are you sure it is failing? Also did you change the fan clutch and blade when you refreshed the cooling system. If so and the wobble started right after you refreshed it then maybe you installed something wrong.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E36-325...ing/ES2598404/ no i mean this one

JDMwizkid 12-07-2012 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southpark11235 (Post 7236725)
By "stage 3 cooling refresh kit" do you mean this one. if so the Stewart pump should last for ever. Are you sure it is failing? Also did you change the fan clutch and blade when you refreshed the cooling system. If so and the wobble started right after you refreshed it then maybe you installed something wrong.

i have not installed the refresh kit yet.. its on its way.. and i dont know that it is failing but i know that the vibration cannot be doin any good at all for it

ZeGerman 12-07-2012 07:44 PM

I'm telling you man, do NOT drive your car if it's vibrating like that. You're going to make a cheap repair much more expensive that way.


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