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BigDeep1 12-09-2012 09:09 PM

DIY: F10 Wheel spacer install
 
This mod is as easy as changing a tire. For those that may be a bit apprehensive, I took a few pics and made some notes for the install.

I installed 15mm Turner Motorsports spacers on the rear of my 2011 535i (F10). She is wearing the factory 19" sport wheels with 275/35/19 rubber on the rear.

I am very happy with this mod as I feel that it gives the vehicle a more muscular look. There is no change in ride quality and no vibrations (I had someone sit in the rear and took her up to triple digits to check).

Before starting, make sure to apply the parking brakes! Also remember to recheck the torque on the lugs after 2 weeks of driving. BMW recommends 90 ft-lb of torque.

Materials I used for the install:
- jack
- anti-seize cream (found only in auto parts store)
- wire brush
- torque wrench


Here is the link to the pics and notes for the install: DIY WHEEL SPACER INSTALL



Before - After

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...12%2520029.JPGhttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w...12%2520053.JPG



AFTER............................................. .............. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...12%2520061.JPG

BigDeep1 12-09-2012 09:13 PM

UPDATE:

I lowered my vehicle with ACS springs (modest drop) and the rear spaced wheels have lost its wide look. Of course the wheels will camber in a bit when the car is lowered (even after an alignment).

I decided to add 10mm front wheel spacers as it was more obvious they sat in (again, after the spring install). So far I have to say that I am not a big fan of using the 10mm spacers on the front. I feel like I have a slight vibration from my wheels at interstate speed (yes, I checked the torque on the lugs), and I don't like how it makes the rear spacing look square. Before the rear looked to sit wider and meaner. I think I may buy some 18mm spacers for the rear now. I was even debating about 20mm, but that may be a bit much. Thoughts?

Here is the link of the pics of the front wheels before and after:

https://plus.google.com/photos/11077...CLPawO6T_fzhUQ


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-B...709-no/467.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...487-ERASER.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...709-no/475.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U...709-no/495.JPG

BickUW89 12-10-2012 08:25 AM

Thanks for posting the before/after pics!

I did this same mod to my E60 and LOVED the results. Haven't done it to Mrs. Bick's F10 yet, but have been toying with it. The F10 already has a nice wide stance, but filling up those wheel wells makes it look even better.

miamiboyca 12-11-2012 05:54 AM

Looks good. Details - how much were the spacers? Also do you still have that jack for when the rest of the Dallas crew does this mod? LOL

BigDeep1 12-11-2012 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamiboyca (Post 7242419)
Looks good. Details - how much were the spacers? Also do you still have that jack for when the rest of the Dallas crew does this mod? LOL

LMAO. Always free install for my DFW F10 fam!

As far as price is concerned, I think I may have persuaded them to change their selling format on this. Initially they sold the Turner spacers for $134.99 + $44.5 for the 10 extended black bolts (10x $4.45). All that did not even include shipping!!
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-44...-mini-r56.aspx

I emailed back and forth with Doug @ TMS. I asked if he could match the sale at Burger Motorsports for the $99.99 deal (spacer and lugs). He was kind enough to do so. They also never listed their spacers as applicable for the F10. After my dozen emails, they have finally added us to the list :D.

Now notice that the link has the F10 listed, AND also has this at the end of the description:
"Sold as a pair of spacers with ten black wheel bolts."

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-12...m-x6-pair.aspx

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/c-16-bmw-wheels.aspx

I will say that the quality of the Turner spacer is great, and the graphite/dark grey color is pretty sharp. Honestly, I would also not hesitate to recommend the ECS spacer or even the Burger. As long as the wheel bolts are black, I think you are good to go :thumbup:.

bighungry618 12-11-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDeep1 (Post 7240157)
This mod is as easy as changing a tire. For those that may be a bit apprehensive, I took a few pics and made some notes for the install.

^^^

Good Job man!

Looks way better. Was on the fence about it but now seeing yours....sigh looks like the wallet's gonna get a little lighter.

Thanks Deep....:thumbup:

BigDeep1 12-11-2012 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bighungry618 (Post 7242923)
Good Job man!

Looks way better. Was on the fence about it but now seeing yours....sigh looks like the wallet's gonna get a little lighter.

Thanks Deep....:thumbup:

Thanks brotha! Just trying to look as pretty as Irene ;)

MELLOWYELLOW06 12-16-2012 02:12 PM

Very nice look!

CyclePimps 12-23-2012 08:18 PM

Very nice Deep! Gonna have to take you up on that install offer someday. It looks too nice not to do the same mod. We should do a DFW group install. :thumbup:

bklynfmd 12-23-2012 08:34 PM

What about wheel locks? Don't we need to buy longer wheel lock lugs?

Chuck W. 12-24-2012 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bklynfmd (Post 7268076)
What about wheel locks? Don't we need to buy longer wheel lock lugs?

If you use them, yes. IMHO, I would not use them on any of my cars. They are a PITA.

BigDeep1 12-24-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bklynfmd (Post 7268076)
What about wheel locks? Don't we need to buy longer wheel lock lugs?

BMW didn't use wheel locks on my F10, so I didn't bother getting any. I doubt anybody wants to steal these OEM wheels. If I had some $6k HRE wheels, I would think about it. In all honesty, if somebody really wants to steal wheels, they can tap the wheel lock out.

CyclePimps, let me know when you are ready!

Anonimac 12-25-2012 09:31 AM

I'm considering doing this as well, however, did you do anything on the front? I've heard some other people have done 15mm on the rear and 12 (or 12.5 mm) on the fronts. Any issues with doing that?

BigDeep1 12-25-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonimac (Post 7270276)
I'm considering doing this as well, however, did you do anything on the front? I've heard some other people have done 15mm on the rear and 12 (or 12.5 mm) on the fronts. Any issues with doing that?

I did not put spacers on the front; however, I considered it. I wanted to try the rear first. I have heard that spacing out the wheels can sometimes cause vibration and place a little more pressure on the hub. I also figured that there is a lot less weight, movement, and moving parts in the rear (vs the front - ie. steering assembly and front-end).

Anonimac 12-25-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDeep1 (Post 7270454)
I did not put spacers on the front; however, I considered it. I wanted to try the rear first. I have heard that spacing out the wheels can sometimes cause vibration and place a little more pressure on the hub. I also figured that there is a lot less weight, movement, and moving parts in the rear (vs the front - ie. steering assembly and front-end).

This is definitely a very valid consideration if true. Does anyone else have any experience with this so we can gather more data points? Does the front look as bad as the back stock as far as gap? i.e. is it as "necessary" to do in the front?

Turo37765 12-25-2012 05:17 PM

I also am looking into this mod.. Thinking 15mm Rear & 5 mm front... As the front is already about 5+mm more than the rear.. Any comments on my idea.?

Anonimac 12-26-2012 09:01 PM

So I will likely have the 356 style wheels on my F10 so i'm not sure if this has any impact on this mod. The rear tire is now slightly wider (9 vs. 8.5), but i'm not sure it changes anything for the wheel spacer needed. Can anyone with insight comment?

BigDeep1 12-27-2012 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonimac (Post 7270489)
This is definitely a very valid consideration if true. Does anyone else have any experience with this so we can gather more data points? Does the front look as bad as the back stock as far as gap? i.e. is it as "necessary" to do in the front?

The front gap is not as "bad" as the stock rear wheel gap. I do think you can easily get away with not spacing the front. The many pictures I have on the first link should give you a good idea of the look.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turo37765 (Post 7270743)
I also am looking into this mod.. Thinking 15mm Rear & 5 mm front... As the front is already about 5+mm more than the rear.. Any comments on my idea.?

Some sites don't recommend using a spacer less than 12.5mm on any wheels. They claim that it won't sit flush on the BMW hub. I know Burger says that 10mm would work just fine. 5mm spacers may work; however, I would not recommend it. It would take away from the factory hub lip. Notice my 15mm spacer has its own lip, just like the OEM BMW hub. The 5mm spacer would not have this, and would take away from the current OEM lip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonimac (Post 7272646)
So I will likely have the 356 style wheels on my F10 so i'm not sure if this has any impact on this mod. The rear tire is now slightly wider (9 vs. 8.5), but i'm not sure it changes anything for the wheel spacer needed. Can anyone with insight comment?

My current OEM wheels are 9" on the rear. To answer your question - no, the 356 wheels will not have any negative impact on your mod. It should look awesome :thumbup:.

Anonimac 12-27-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDeep1 (Post 7273032)
My current OEM wheels are 9" on the rear. To answer your question - no, the 356 wheels will not have any negative impact on your mod. It should look awesome :thumbup:.

Yea, it already looks pretty good with just the 20 inch 356 wheels...fills the fender well a bit better and the slightly wider rear tires is something i've always liked. Once i put on the spacers i think it'll be damn near perfect. When/if i do it, i'll be sure to post pics.

CyclePimps 12-27-2012 04:37 PM

Have you guys ever thought what would happen if you decided to drop the 5er to reduce the top wheel gap, ala ACS springs or the like? Think it would rub with the 15mm spacers or even the 10mm? Springs are on my future possible mods list if I can get my wife to not pull up so close to the parking block. (She drives it sometimes)

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BigDeep1 12-28-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyclePimps (Post 7274203)
Have you guys ever thought what would happen if you decided to drop the 5er to reduce the top wheel gap, ala ACS springs or the like? Think it would rub with the 15mm spacers or even the 10mm? Springs are on my future possible mods list if I can get my wife to not pull up so close to the parking block. (She drives it sometimes)

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I have read of others that actually used 20mm spacers on the rear with an ACS, and even an Eibach drop - with no rubs or problems.

As always CP, we are on the same page. I am really wanting to do an ACS drop; however, the wifey and curbs are my biggest concern. I will still probably do it sometime in 2013 :D.

Anonimac 01-04-2013 06:10 AM

So this may be a super dumb question... Just got my 550i...got my wheel spacers from Turner (btw, awesome experience with those guys!), got my torque wrench (1/2 inch), going to get my sieze cream and wire brush later today...so...

- Can i use any car jack? I don't have a BMW specific one (if there is such a thing), and the one i have is not the big wheeled kind, just a jack from another car.
- What kind of lug nut do i need? As far as i can tell, the lug nut is not in the trunk tool area.

BickUW89 01-04-2013 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonimac (Post 7288970)
Can i use any car jack? I don't have a BMW specific one (if there is such a thing), and the one i have is not the big wheeled kind, just a jack from another car.

You have two jacking options:
1) there are four jack points built into the chassis, two just behind the front wheels on each side, and two just in front of the back wheels on each side. These jack points are recessed, with plastic sides - you CANNOT simply put a jack onto the plastic and lift the car without destroying them, probably denting the metal sheeting around them, and causing the lifted car to be unstable. You need a jack that can fit into the socket.

F10's don't have spare tires, so they don't bother providing a jack. The jack that came with E39s and E60s (and probably other BMWs as well) will work just fine, as they have a shoe that fits up into the jack point.

Alternatively, you can do what I did and fashion a small block of hardwood that fits into the socket, and use that as the jack point. There are also aluminum jack pad inserts that you can buy online for this purpose, but they're a little pricey for what they are.

2) You can use the center jack points to raise the entire front (under the engine), or the entire rear of the car (under the differential in the rear). As long as you have a long-handled jack with a flat jack head that has the lifting capacity you should be fine. I prefer this method, as its quicker and I can place two jack stands on opposites sides quickly and easily.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonimac (Post 7288970)
What kind of lug nut do i need? As far as i can tell, the lug nut is not in the trunk tool area.

I assume you mean lug nut socket? You're going to need a 17 mm deep socket to remove the lug nuts.

BigDeep1 01-04-2013 09:53 AM

Great answer Bick!

I will say that the anit-seize and wire brush are optional items. If your car is new or you has minimal rust, you can use a brillo pad or any firm brush to clean the area. As long as the area the spacer is touching is clean, you are ok. Sometimes small patches of rust or debris can cause it to not sit flush. The tolerance is pretty tight on these Turner spacers - which is great!!

I used a 17mm deep socket:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-q...12%2520037.JPG

You can see the square jack point Bick was talking about :

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q...12%2520042.JPG

My jack has a large rubber seat, so luckily no damage occurred. If you want to play it safe, you can get on of these from BMS: http://burgertuning.com/BMW_jack_pad_adapter.html

http://burgertuning.com/images/BMW_jack_pad.jpg

Best wishes bro. It would be great to see some pics ;)

Anonimac 01-04-2013 02:40 PM

All needed items (sans the actual spacers, lol) in hand...waiting on delivery of spacers now; should be very soon (today). Will try to take and post pics.


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