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Blax 01-08-2013 06:58 PM

What I Hate About The Look of the Front of an F30
 
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So we've already had a few threads about the look of the F30 when viewed from squarely front-on. I am one of the folks who don't like the look at all...from any other angle than exactly front-on I like the car a lot.

I try not to look at it, usually parking face in, but tonight I was looking at the front and remembering this thread from a few days ago...and I though...what is it really that I don't like about it? The key items I think are:

+ it looks like a sumo wrestler sat on the front of the car and squashed the face.
+ the line of the hood opening across the front
+ the lights are too extremely near the edge of the car.
+ somewhat due to the sumo-squash, the lights could be a little bigger.
+ to a lesser degree, that the lights touch the kidney grills.

I was also remembering the BMW CS concept from a few years ago which also had a very squashed (but badass!) looking front to it and the kidneys.

So to prove my theories, I did a quick photoshop attempt at my version. I have an e90 in the garage next to my f30 so I could compare what I liked and stole a few design elements from the older car. I did not change anything but the above listed items, though I know modifying the skirt for example would have been an easy cheat. Also I tried to not change the hood line as little as possible, since I know there are European pedestrian laws that require the steep swoop down to the front of the hood.

Here is what I came up with. I'm no photo shop wizard obviously, but I am wondering if you guys like the new version better or worse. As always, it's a very subjective thing and I am sure a bunch of folks will like the real version better and that's fine by me! :)

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...2&d=1357699999

MMME30W 01-08-2013 07:11 PM

Pretty cool!

justinnum1 01-08-2013 07:24 PM

dont like that

Microtesties 01-08-2013 07:28 PM

Looks more intimidating, like BMWs should!

Elk 01-08-2013 07:29 PM

Fun exercise.

The specificity of of your observations is interesting as most merely express whether they do or do not like the look.

Ronin951 01-08-2013 07:33 PM

First, your photoshop skills are very impressive. Well done :thumbup:

I'm with you on the hood line, but have no problem with the height of the lights. However, the light going all the way over to the kidney's has got to go. I mean c'mon BMW at least give it some shape and not just a big blob of nothing.

Overall the front to rear hood lines are a work of art and one of my favorite things about the car aesthetically. A lot of other auto manufacturers have tried to pull off the double "wave" and failed miserably. BMW's implementation is timeless IMBO.

1985mb 01-08-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ronin951 (Post 7299869)
first, your photoshop skills are very impressive. Well done :thumbup:

I'm with you on the hood line, but have no problem with the height of the lights. However, the light going all the way over to the kidney's has got to go. I mean c'mon bmw at least give it some shape and not just a big blob of nothing.

+1000

boltjaM3s 01-08-2013 07:47 PM

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...ticleLarge.jpg

I guess my answer to you would be:

"If we wanted an X1, we'd have bought an X1."

BJ

Red Lined 01-08-2013 07:48 PM

So like a F10 basically, lol? I think the F30 is supposed to draw a wider appeal (to males and females) so the car is toned down a bit (and more feminine). Your photo-shop, while awesome, is way to masculine for a 3 series.

krash 01-08-2013 07:49 PM

I would prefer it if the lights were not touching the grills too.

Not a deal breaker for me, but just saying...

DavidM1975 01-08-2013 07:54 PM

I guess I am the only one who thinks the car is actually perfect as it is. Quite honestly when I first saw it I thought they screwed up the design with the lights touching the grille but it grew on me and I accepted it completely when I first saw the car in real life. The design stands out, it's bold and yet very distinctive and classically addictive for bmw. I wouldn't change a thing.

elistan 01-08-2013 08:16 PM

I prefer as is. Gives the car a bit more of a wide and low feel.

tturedraider 01-08-2013 08:21 PM

I like your hood much better. I mentioned the other day I think they did the hood "cut line" the way they did in an attempt to minimize sheet metal damage should pedestrian damage occur. I like the size of the lights and the current grill set up just fine.

boltjaM3s 01-08-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidM1975 (Post 7299923)
I guess I am the only one who thinks the car is actually perfect as it is. Quite honestly when I first saw it I thought they screwed up the design with the lights touching the grille but it grew on me and I accepted it completely when I first saw the car in real life. The design stands out, it's bold and yet very distinctive and classically addictive for bmw. I wouldn't change a thing.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...2340ade04b.jpg

Agree completely.

BJ

boltjaM3s 01-08-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by krash (Post 7299912)
I would prefer it if the lights were not touching the grills too.

Not a deal breaker for me, but just saying...

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...s/DSC_0433.jpg

It takes a week, but eventually you 'get' it and it makes sense.

What's not discussed yet should be is the protruding grill. Instead of a flat surface, it protrudes like a chrome-wrapped floating oval. The headlamp array might be a bit awkward, but the grill treatment is terrific.

BJ

Blax 01-08-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Lined (Post 7299909)
So like a F10 basically, lol? I think the F30 is supposed to draw a wider appeal (to males and females) so the car is toned down a bit (and more feminine). Your photo-shop, while awesome, is way to masculine for a 3 series.

That's a pretty interesting observation. I think you are right that what I did makes it look more aggressive, though I think that might be easier achieved with a fiercer front spoiler. Maybe I should just get the M-Sport (which is more aggressive) and be happy! :)

Spagolli94 01-08-2013 08:59 PM

The front end design has grown on me since I first saw it. I do like your Photoshop better, but it's a very slight improvement. My main gripe with the new car is the size. Just too big.

boltjaM3s 01-08-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Blax (Post 7300026)
That's a pretty interesting observation. I think you are right that what I did makes it look more aggressive, though I think that might be easier achieved with a fiercer front spoiler. Maybe I should just get the M-Sport (which is more aggressive) and be happy!

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...E90Comparo.jpg

I find that the F30 M-Sport looks too much like the E90 LCI. The M-Sport's most prominent front feature is that "swoop jaw" that puts a flat surface under each headlamp and then that flat surface drops down below the bumper to the air scoop and back up.

The E90 front looks like a Pachinko machine. The F30 front looks like Angry Birds. I like the de-Bangled F30 better, like it's low-slung nose, like the fact that it looks clean and menacing as opposed to confusing and friendly.

BJ

dtc100 01-08-2013 09:13 PM

Next time anyone looks at the image in BJ's signature, the straight hood line, the bloated hood looking from the side, and the sunken nose/mouth at the front bumper, are all there for a good reason, to be more pedestrian friendly. They were not there for aesthetic reason. You can't have the cake and eat it too, the look has to suffer a little for the good of humanity, it is the least a Bimmer driver can do. The fact BJ finds them amazingly good looking is irrelevant, because they were not there to look good, rather to protect the pedestrian.

beden1 01-08-2013 09:20 PM

Send your design to BMW and they should hire you on the spot. Great job and you fixed my main gripe with the F30 design. Now, please start working on changing the GPS screen that is just stuck there like it was an afterthought.

boltjaM3s 01-08-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dtc100 (Post 7300068)
Next time anyone looks at the image in BJ's signature, the straight hood line, the bloated hood looking from the side, and the sunken nose/mouth at the front bumper, are all there for a good reason, to be more pedestrian friendly. They were not there for aesthetic reason. You can't have the cake and eat it too, the look has to suffer a little for the good of humanity, it is the least a Bimmer driver can do. The fact BJ finds them amazingly good looking is irrelevant, because they were not there to look good, rather to protect the pedestrian.

...and what would a good conversation between F30 owners be without an intrusion from our resident E90 troll.

The F30 is a great-looking car, you can try to slam it all you want, isn't going to work. See, we all owned E90's. Jedi Mind Tricks don't work on us.

BJ

captainaudio 01-08-2013 10:30 PM

Love it or hate it the front end of cars (and not just BMWs) from here on in will be influenced by pedestrian safety rules. That is also the reason why the traditional "Leaper", which was somewhat of an anachronism anyway is no longer on Jaguars,

Although the look may appear a bit different at first it will become mainstream very rapidly and soon nobody will even notice.

CA

pkim1079 01-09-2013 02:01 AM

So the photoshop was an lci v2.0? I have bsm with black grills and xenons. Looks pretty awesome to me. Cant really see the hood line although i dont mind that. Car looks a lot more meaner than the e90. And i still am amazed at the xenon headlights. Rather than change any shapes i wish it had full leds.

chasfh 01-09-2013 05:20 AM

I'm fine with the look of the front. The only thing I would change is moving the opening of the hood back to where it was. Not a deal-breaker, though, as I never even noticed it until you pointed it out! :D

gweeta 01-09-2013 05:25 AM

Wow. It's really clear to me I'm out of my league at bimmerfest. I couldn't see the differences until I read the text. DOH!


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