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snelldogg 01-09-2013 11:17 AM

2013 or 2014 335 MSport
 
After a short while with Audi I am proudly returning to BMW. I am getting a 335MSport, 6MT, DHP, 19" etc...

Now if ordered I am told it will take roughly 10-12 weeks to get the car as there are, "few 335's" allocated right now.

In your opinions, is it worth ordering new in July to ensure a 2014 and any changes that may go along with it? So much talk of updated nav and potential engine changes gives me pause.

Really welcome the advice.

TY

DavidM1975 01-09-2013 01:30 PM

My personal take on this is: get it while it's hot! And... 335i certainly is right now. The car is already refined and so technologically advanced it will take you a good month to learn and get used to all it has to offer. The N55
Quote:

truly comes to life in the 2012 BMW 335i and makes its case as one of the greatest powerplants ever designed by the vaunted Munich minds
according to automedia.com

There will ALWAYS be something else and something new around the corner. I know people who spend most of their lives waiting because the next thing is going to be even better (not saying you would but it's easy to take it to the extreme in today's world where information and predictions about the near and far future are so easily accessible).

I don't like to debate. I like to drive! - hey, maybe I should put this into my signature.... ;)

kobechrome 01-09-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidM1975 (Post 7301534)
My personal take on this is: get it while it's hot! And... 335i certainly is right now.

I tend to agree. You'll always be waiting for what's around the corner. If you place your order on July - you'll probably wait about 8 weeks at least anyway so you're talking about waiting really about 8 months from now. LCI changes for 2014 may come with a bump up in price as well. I'm sure they'll add a few things and make them standard. I guess the biggest question is if they will upgrade the engine.

snelldogg 01-09-2013 02:08 PM

Thanks
 
I hear what your saying and agree but would honestly be disappointed if the engine were upgraded and I had the car for 4 months...

DavidM1975 01-09-2013 02:10 PM

Then I guess that's your answer. I think you need to wait and see.

kobechrome 01-09-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snelldogg (Post 7301640)
I hear what your saying and agree but would honestly be disappointed if the engine were upgraded and I had the car for 4 months...

Then you answered your own question. If you will be disappointed with a potential engine upgrade then go ahead and wait. You can always mod/chip your n55 as well don't forget for what is likely below the bump in base price for the 2014 model year.

snelldogg 01-09-2013 03:29 PM

Maybe I do wait then. Although I don't think price will be an issue as they seem to change price with the calendar year and not the model year.

krash 01-09-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snelldogg (Post 7301213)
After a short while with Audi I am proudly returning to BMW. I am getting a 335MSport, 6MT, DHP, 19" etc...

Now if ordered I am told it will take roughly 10-12 weeks to get the car as there are, "few 335's" allocated right now.

In your opinions, is it worth ordering new in July to ensure a 2014 and any changes that may go along with it? So much talk of updated nav and potential engine changes gives me pause.

Really welcome the advice.

TY

I'm about to take the plunge on a 335. I got the deal I want.

They didn't say anything about 10-12 weeks though...

I expect to order as early as tomorrow.

krash 01-09-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snelldogg (Post 7301640)
I hear what your saying and agree but would honestly be disappointed if the engine were upgraded and I had the car for 4 months...

If they jump from a 335 to a 340, Bimmerfest will be on suicide watch. Remember when they went from a 330 to a 335 only 2 years into the E90 life cycle? People totally flipped out. I really lucked out, because I ordered right after the 335 became available...

I am still ordering soon anyway. I just can't see them doing that this time around; especially since MPG is such a major focus now. Why do you think they dropped the 328 from a 6 to a 4????

SamS 01-10-2013 04:19 AM

2014 F30s will probably get the new Navigation, if that is something you're considering.

krash 01-10-2013 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SamS (Post 7302866)
2014 F30s will probably get the new Navigation, if that is something you're considering.

What does that entail?

SamS 01-10-2013 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krash (Post 7302912)
What does that entail?

A substantial update to the iDrive/Nav system:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=621725

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/bmw-idrive-4x/

F30 ActiveHybrid, and all 5-series and 7-series built after June 2012 already have it. So, you could try it out/see it at your local dealer.

krash 01-10-2013 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamS (Post 7302936)
A substantial update to the iDrive/Nav system:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=621725

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/bmw-idrive-4x/

F30 ActiveHybrid, and all 5-series and 7-series built after June 2012 already have it. So, you could try it out/see it at your local dealer.

It's software, right?

So why can't everyone get an upgrade?

SamS 01-10-2013 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by krash (Post 7303023)
It's software, right?

So why can't everyone get an upgrade?

No, not just software. It's a substantial hardware update, a truly "all new" system.

New Nav (known as HU_NBT) provides:

- Intel processor 1.3Ghz (vs Renesas 600Mhz)
- 1GB RAM (vs 512Mb)
- 8GB flash (vs 512Mb)
- Nvidia graphics (probably Tegra 3) (vs Fujitsu)
- 200GB hard drive (vs 80Gb)
- Integrated combox
- 3G cell SIM card for car communications

Also, substantially improved traffic: http://www.inrix.com/pressrelease.asp?ID=158

krash 01-10-2013 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamS (Post 7303034)
No, not just software. It's a substantial hardware update, a truly "all new" system.

New Nav (known as HU_NBT) provides:

- Intel processor 1.3Ghz (vs Renesas 600Mhz)
- 1GB RAM (vs 512Mb)
- 8GB flash (vs 512Mb)
- Nvidia graphics (probably Tegra 3) (vs Fujitsu)
- 200GB hard drive (vs 80Gb)
- Integrated combox
- 3G cell SIM card for car communications

Also, substantially improved traffic: http://www.inrix.com/pressrelease.asp?ID=158

Oh, well. I am not in position to wait. And I can do without all the FB crap type stuff...

SamS 01-10-2013 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krash (Post 7303055)
Oh, well. I am not in position to wait. And I can do without all the FB crap type stuff...

I understand about not being able to wait.

However, to be accurate... Facebook/Twitter integration (I'm not a user, nor do I care) is the the same between old vs. new Nav.

You can think of the old vs. new as buying a 2005 PC with Windows XP, vs. a 2012 PC with Windows 7. Sure, both are still Windows, and both will still surf the web just fine, but you're going to have more polish, speed and functionality with the new operating system + hardware.

krash 01-10-2013 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamS (Post 7303064)
I understand about not being able to wait.

However, to be accurate... Facebook/Twitter integration (I'm not a user, nor do I care) is the the same between old vs. new Nav.

You can think of the old vs. new as buying a 2005 PC with Windows XP, vs. a 2012 PC with Windows 7. Sure, both are still Windows, and both will still surf the web just fine, but you're going to have more polish, speed and functionality with the new operating system + hardware.

Understand. On a positive note, the system I get will be a big upgrade over what I have now.

justinnum1 01-10-2013 08:08 AM

it wont be a new engine, probably it will just come standard with what the ppk give you.

but you should wait, that way we wont have to hear about it if they did change lol

tturedraider 01-10-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snelldogg (Post 7301828)
Maybe I do wait then. Although I don't think price will be an issue as they seem to change price with the calendar year and not the model year.

Nope. The price goes up with the new model year, too. Count on it.

1985mb 01-10-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snelldogg (Post 7301828)
Maybe I do wait then. Although I don't think price will be an issue as they seem to change price with the calendar year and not the model year.

If you're going to wait, you should wait til you can personally check out the car (not just 'til they allow customers to order 2014s). E.g. in 2010 BMW gutted the sound system w/o telling anyone and then there was an uproar.

Vector Pilot 01-11-2013 05:20 AM

Personally I hope the 2014 M Sport will offer additional exterior colors and interior leather colors.

SamS 01-11-2013 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vector Pilot (Post 7305339)
Personally I hope the 2014 M Sport will offer additional exterior colors and interior leather colors.

That would be more likely when they do the LCI in MY2016.

Vector Pilot 01-11-2013 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamS (Post 7305344)
That would be more likely when they do the LCI in MY2016.

Oh Really!!

Speed 335ixDr 01-11-2013 05:41 AM

I would not wait. I ordered my 335i Xdrive M Sport w/ 19" last July and finally arrived Nov 8 '12.

ctorrey 01-11-2013 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamS (Post 7305344)
That would be more likely when they do the LCI in MY2016.

Interesting point. My E90 lease is up May '14 and I was hoping to lease an F30 around that time. My plan was to actually wait until May '14 to place the order, thus extending my current lease a couple of months so I could get a model year '15 with the hopes that it would be an LCI year. Probably a year to early - wish I could extend my lease an extra year!


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