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Lisa@Bimmerfest 01-29-2013 02:12 PM

What does perfection look like?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiuaF...em-uploademail

It looks like the product of depth and precision from both man and machine with the BMW Quality Management. You think you're detail-oriented? Well when you're finished straightening your tie, check out the attention that each and every nut and bolt of every BMW manufactured receives throughout the assembly lines. You're going to want to floss after. Maybe iron the curtains too. Just trust me.

enigma 01-29-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa@Bimmerfest (Post 7346440)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiuaF...em-uploademail

It looks like the product of depth and precision from both man and machine with the BMW Quality Management. You think you're detail-oriented? Well when you're finished straightening your tie, check out the attention that each and every nut and bolt of every BMW manufactured receives throughout the assembly lines. You're going to want to floss after. Maybe iron the curtains too. Just trust me.

With all due respect, this is more of a marketing tool than anything else.

I like my BMWs for its driving dynamics, but quality control has never been its strong suit. When we are told orange peel effect on the paint job is "normal", it undoes its marketing words like "perfection".

captainaudio 01-29-2013 05:40 PM

And if you believe that you may be interested in a bridge that I have for sale.



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7kxIgA3Jz4...nsetHDRSML.jpg

SilverX3 01-29-2013 05:42 PM

cars still rattle, play up after warranty, faults now and then

so perfection is a myth

justinnum1 01-29-2013 06:06 PM

^lmao

captainaudio 01-29-2013 06:34 PM

I have two BMWs and don't really have issues with the build quality but it is no better than many other cars I have owned. The most solid feeling car I ever owned was my 1992 Lexus SC300. That car felt like it was carved out of a solid block of steel. Closing the hood felt like you were closing the door of a vault. The worst build quality was my 1969 Firebird 400. I remember a commercial a few years back where they put a Lexus on a giant rotisserie like device and ran a ball bearing around the door to show how consistent the width of the door seams was. My Firebird not only would have failed the ball bearing test it would have failed a bowling ball test. Since the Firebird days I had a Honda Accord and an Acura Integra (both very good build quality) several Jaguars (most recently an XKR - very good build quality and fit and finish and extremely high quality material in the interior) the Lexus. I now have a 335i and a 750Li. Both are solid well built cars but far from "perfection". I have to give credit where credit is due and the 335i Cabrio has remained rattle free in spite of the punishment it took on NYC roads while it was equipped with OEM shock absorbers and RFTs.

CA

3ismagic# 01-29-2013 07:44 PM

After a year and a half my car is still tighter than a nun's behind.

captainaudio 01-29-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ismagic# (Post 7347159)
After a year and a half my car is still tighter than a nun's behind.

My 335i is at 6 years and 45,000 miles and is still rattle free, which is more that I can say about it when it was new. It had an annoying dash rattle when it was new that drove me crazy. I read somewhere that if something gets into the air vents under the front seats you will hear the rattle coming out of the dashboard vents. I vacuumed the vents under the seats and the rattle went away. There is very little tire noise with the Conti DWS tires and very little wind noise which I attribute to the lack of B pillars on the cabrio. It does not have the bank vault feel that my Lexus Coupe had (but from what I have heard the new Lexus models don't have that quality anymore) but the car is very solid after getting beat up on NYC roads for 6 years. The 750 is only a bit over 2 years old but that car (RFTs and all) is completely oblivious to NYC potholes when it is in Comfort Plus mode. In Sport Plus modes the shifts become more agressive, the steering tightens up and I swear to God the car becomes 18" shorter and 500 pounds lighter.

CA

SilverX3 01-30-2013 12:36 AM

Perfection

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...k4KPzFtvZsHthR

or this

http://ww.watchtime.com/mdisher/basel10/breguet_lg.jpg

or this

http://www.queensland-australia.com/...mooloolaba.jpg

woodswatchco 01-30-2013 04:22 AM

For the sake of honesty, I should probably mention that my new estoril blue M sport 328i from S. Africa has a 2" paint run on the trunk lid. It's above the license plate. I guess their perfection crew missed that. Body panel fit is ok. Not great. I agree another poster. Driving dynamics is why to buy a BMW. If you want perfection, look at Lexus, Acura, Audi, and maybe Porsche? Ofcourse all of those brands except Porsche and maybe the S series Audi's represent boring to me.

chris328 01-30-2013 06:41 AM

BMW paint is by far the worst

chiba 01-30-2013 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ismagic# (Post 7347159)
After a year and a half my car is still tighter than a nun's behind.

Depending on this nun's diet, bowel movements, and even love life, this could go both ways. :yikes:

My car came with a weird unfinished part around the window (weather stripping?). The service manager is supposedly ordering a new part to replace it. Other than that, she's as solid as a nun's behind! :eek:

Making 1000 cars a day is amazing considering how much is involved.

boramkiv 01-30-2013 07:57 AM

Indeed perfection is not the word to use, but In my eyes it looks to have gotten better than before. Is the quality they're talking about the way the car is sitting on the lot, or perhaps 1 to 2 years down the road? I agree Lexus overall quality is better for a longer time. My X5 is peeling and separating itself on purpose. It's holding up pretty good for an 11 year old though. My E60 is doing much better and looks like it would last much longer. So it looks to be getting better over the years, but perfection is far away because even Lexus wouldn't admit they're perfect.

spicytofu 01-30-2013 08:10 AM

im pretty sure my car did not come off that production line....would be nice if it did :)

Mark K 01-30-2013 12:34 PM

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And if you believe that you may be interested in a bridge that I have for sale.



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7kxIgA3Jz4...nsetHDRSML.jpg

I'll second that with the template/original of that beautiful bridge.

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chiba 01-30-2013 12:51 PM

Nice Brequet, how about this

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U...211_114053.jpg

or this?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Q...124_151042.jpg

or this

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5...212_161456.jpg

or this

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-i...JDP_9539-2.jpg

:thumbup:

MML007 01-30-2013 02:26 PM

+1 for the PO. :D


enigma 01-31-2013 01:32 PM

How this turn into a watch thread?

BTW, that gold Rolex is hideous.

408Racer 01-31-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverX3 (Post 7347562)

:D

http://cdn.ismashphone.com/wp-conten...b60970b-pi.jpg

SilverX3 01-31-2013 05:58 PM

Perfection = Rolex Submariner on an M3 steering driven by ME :=)

boltjaM3s 01-31-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverX3 (Post 7351710)
Perfection = Rolex Submariner on an M3 steering driven by ME :=)

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...james/1964.jpg

I prefer a 1964 Omega Speedmaster pre-moon pre-pro in the foyer of my McMansion, but that's just me.

BJ

Ripred 01-31-2013 06:57 PM

Girls, girls, you're getting offtopic again with all your reduntant jewelry chitchat :D

SilverX3 01-31-2013 07:05 PM

better than chit chat with an ATS owner !!!!

chiba 01-31-2013 07:31 PM

Nice Speedy!

Timeless design hasn't changed that much over the years

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Q...D_8437-2-3.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J...0/photo2-2.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D...0/JTD_1364.jpg

Perfection :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by boltjaM3s (Post 7351756)
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...james/1964.jpg

I prefer a 1964 Omega Speedmaster pre-moon pre-pro in the foyer of my McMansion, but that's just me.

BJ


boltjaM3s 01-31-2013 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiba (Post 7351932)
Nice Speedy!

Timeless design hasn't changed that much over the years

Perfection

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b.../IMG_2142b.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...s/IMG_2124.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...tjames/rol.jpg

Thanks. My other Speedmaster is the '57 Replica, limited edition which looks good on a strap or a bracelet. And, of course, no collection is complete without the Rolex Sub Date.

BJ


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