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dtc 01-30-2013 08:33 PM

When will E84 be replaced? MY2016?
 
I'm sort of in the market for a new car... sort of not.

Out of curiosity, when is the E84 slated to be replaced? It looks like it started in MY 2010... does this mean it will last until MY2015 and be replaced in MY2016?

SilverX3 01-31-2013 01:03 AM

And maybe front wheel drive by then too

edx1 01-31-2013 08:01 AM

No one knows for sure. The next X1 will be based on the UKL platform, same as the Mini Countryman. Rumors have been going around from the change happening anywhere from MY2015 to MY2017. BMW often sticks to a 7-9 year model line and the E84 platform came out in 2009 and is only 5 years old. BMW has ended productions cycles early on some models so you just never know. We do know that BMW had talked to media about the change starting almost a year ago which is earlier than they usually would talk about things from what I've seen.

The UKL is designed around FWD and adding AWD will use a different axle power design so the X1 will likely lose it's rear wheel biast that many people go to BMW for. It's also likely you won't see a 6 cylinder engine in the UKL platform. My guess is you'll see xDrive28i and xDrive20i but that's just my guess.

There are also quite a few renders of the new body style posted around, the long hood is lost and it really looks like a ponatic vibe. :( But they get more cabin room with a shorter vehicle.

One thing to note, the X1 is built in the same factory as the 1 series and to-be i-series. One thought is maybe the X1 is getting changed early so the plant isn't changing the X1 model to the new platform at the same time the i-series production line is being created, but just my speculation.

SilverX3 01-31-2013 12:03 PM

the truth is

BMW Once said "we will never make Turbo M cars"..... they lied

BMW also said :we will never make front wheel drive BMW" they lied again

putting the two lies together...

BMW will make Turbo Font Wheel drive M cars

(like like AMG ... they will make Turbo Front Wheel Drive (predominantly) B Class car)

dtc 01-31-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverX3 (Post 7351075)
the truth is

BMW Once said "we will never make Turbo M cars"..... they lied

BMW also said :we will never make front wheel drive BMW" they lied again

putting the two lies together...

BMW will make Turbo Font Wheel drive M cars

(like like AMG ... they will make Turbo Front Wheel Drive (predominantly) B Class car)

Steve Jobs also once said they'd never make an iPod that could play videos. :)

Going back on your word is new hotness.

Personally I'm looking for a car that's ~176" or less [parking for my existing e46 is hard enough] and 4 cylinders [I expect gas prices to be $5 in the next 2 years - global economy is picking up, the Chinese have followed us and are buying cars like crazy]... ideally hybrid.

Actually, my ideal car would be my e46, with all the latest features/comforts, with a sporty hybrid powertrain.

But, that's not to be. So for now there's the X1 (176.5"! 4 cylinder) or the 1-series (172"! 6 cylinder only).

e1322739 02-02-2013 11:10 AM

I think the Compact Active Tourer is a sign of things to come in 1 series platform cars.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/b...med/index.html

SilverX3 02-02-2013 01:58 PM

Look like a B class

iamthewalrus 02-02-2013 04:42 PM

Looks like BMW's answer to the VW Golf Plus! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIRiv1iFlW8

The Compact Active Tourer looks promising, and I'm eager to see VW/Audi's response. The Golf R is pretty much my ideal car if my BMW X3 were to die tomorrow. Manual transmission, all-wheel-drive, 4-cylinder turbo, small enough to park in a city, and with a little ground clearance; that's my ideal combination. The Compact Active Tourer could be that exact car.

Given how BMW no longer offers manual transmission, all-wheel-drive vehicles in the US, there's a risk this will be automatic only. Time will tell...

-James
Seattle, WA

SilverX3 02-02-2013 07:41 PM

why BMW have to play catch up with VW ???? should it be the other way around

pharding 02-03-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e1322739 (Post 7355057)
I think the Compact Active Tourer is a sign of things to come in 1 series platform cars.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/b...med/index.html

That may be the replacement for the current X1.

AzNMpower32 02-03-2013 06:55 PM

The E84 came out in late 2009 and just went thru an LCI. So given a 7 year model run, it's probably going to be around 2016 when we see a replacement.

pharding 02-03-2013 08:37 PM

If the whole line is converted over to the FWD platform, the X1 may have a shorter life than normal.

SilverX3 02-04-2013 11:25 AM

And that's a bad news
Fwd BMW

Meh

edx1 02-04-2013 09:18 PM

Saw this tonight: http://indianautosblog.com/2013/02/r...rossover-62028

Lots of interesting ideas from having a single vehicle with 3 cylinder front wheel drive and electric rear wheel drive (active touring?) to a M35i 350hp model to compete with Mercedes GLA 45 AMG and Audi RSQ3 (which is actually slower than the xDrive35i). Article does mention BMW's plans are for 2016. Could also be the X4 we know is coming out as well.

dtc 02-05-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzNMpower32 (Post 7357627)
The E84 came out in late 2009 and just went thru an LCI. So given a 7 year model run, it's probably going to be around 2016 when we see a replacement.

What's an LCI?

nospam 02-05-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtc (Post 7362699)
What's an LCI?

Life Cycle Impulse aka facelift

3ismagic# 02-06-2013 07:42 AM

LCI is the dumbest, most obtuse marketing gibberish ever invented.

SilverX3 02-06-2013 11:16 AM

Lci = new lights new bumper and we got sucked in

Wolfex 02-06-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverx3 (Post 7363720)
lci = new lights new bumper and we got sucked in

+1


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