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Doctor_H 02-04-2013 09:50 PM

New to the forums and BMW
 
Hey all, I am new to the forums and am currently in the process of purchasing an X5 E70. I am considering a 2012 X5 xdrive50i with the M Sport Package & 20" M Sport Wheels. It is well equipped, i think. I negotiated the price down to $54,000 even + tax. It currently has 21900 miles. Here are some of the other options it has: Technology package, Nav with Real Time traffic, Convenience package, Reverse and side cameras, active vent seat package, heated and ventilated front seats, multi-contour seats, active steering, adaptive drive, premium sound package, pano roof, HUD. MSRP was allegedly $82,475.

Is this a fair price? I pulled an NADA and clean retail is in excess of $61k, so I think i'm getting a good deal.

Thanks for the feedback! :thumbup:

Doctor_H

ard 02-04-2013 11:44 PM

imo you shoud be between trade and porivate party. "retail' is a scam to support car dealers.

take original invoice price, subtract all incentives, then add 500- that is what the car cost someone in 2012. Now subtract $12k-15k.

Does it have a cpo.100k extended warrnaty?

You should get a PPI too.

A

Doctor_H 02-05-2013 01:37 AM

No CPO as far as i'm concerned. According to NADA, trade-in value is $55.5. The same dealer has a beautiful X5 M with <34K miles, priced just a bit over this 50i. I'm torn between the two. :( Btw Ard, thanks for suggesting the PPI. It had not crossed my mind! It'll be money well spent.

Regards,

Doctor_H

UncleJ 02-05-2013 07:25 AM

Don't forget that the entire maintenance and repair history of both these cars by VIN (up to at least 50K miles) will be available on the BMW service department's computer. They probably won't give you a copy because of the previous owner(s) name, but should go through the list and tell you what has been done, when, and where. That will give you an insight into any recurring problems or major work done. Good luck and don't forget that PPI at a good BMW oriented Indy.:thumbup:

Doctor_H 02-05-2013 08:06 AM

Great advice! Thank you.

ard 02-05-2013 09:48 AM

You need to understand something when looking at: NADA, KBB Edmunds, etc...

1. NO dealer EVERY pays 'trade in value' for the car

2. NOBODY ever gets 'private party price' when they sell.

3. ONLY suckers pay "retail" when they go to the dealer.

There are exceptions to this, but in general the prices there are very inflated.

As stated above, get a PPI at an independent location- NOT from the selling dealer.

5seriesHB 02-05-2013 11:04 AM

Yes that is a pretty well equipt vehicle
The service history is key but also it's not cpod so that will cost u another 3 to 5k
Post the results of ur findings w the service history
Even if it looks minor!
Good luck!
Rob

Doctor_H 02-06-2013 05:22 AM

I called BMW and inquired about the service history. Only thing that was done was an oil change at 15k miles. PPI was clean as a whistle, so I pulled the trigger on it. I am now the proud owner of a '12 X5 xDrive50i. :). Thanks for all the input again!

UncleJ 02-06-2013 07:45 AM

Congratulations! Now Doc when you are ready to move up in a couple of years be sure to check out the Cayenne GTS!:D In the meantime enjoy your ride.:angel:

5seriesHB 02-06-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor_H (Post 7363008)
I called BMW and inquired about the service history. Only thing that was done was an oil change at 15k miles. PPI was clean as a whistle, so I pulled the trigger on it. I am now the proud owner of a '12 X5 xDrive50i. :). Thanks for all the input again!

congrats Bud
Pics please!

Die Wolfe 02-06-2013 11:41 PM

Pics or this never happened.

5seriesHB 02-06-2013 11:46 PM

:stickpoke" yeah what he said"
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Originally Posted by Die Wolfe (Post 7365056)
Pics or this never happened.


Doctor_H 02-07-2013 06:55 AM

It isn't pic worthy ATM since I've driven it quite a bit the past couple of days. Unfortunately, its raining cats and dogs today but as soon as I can wash it, I'll post some pictures. :)

Doctor_H 02-07-2013 07:42 AM

A pic. More to come!
 
I took advantage that the rain stopped momentarily to snap a quick iPhone pic. Here she is. I'll post more detailed photos when I can wash her. :D

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...psfd54df92.jpg

5seriesHB 02-07-2013 07:59 AM

Doc: how do u like the active steering and adaptive drive so far?

Doctor_H 02-07-2013 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 5seriesHB (Post 7365568)
Doc: how do u like the active steering and adaptive drive so far?

Pure awesomeness! Loving everything about with the exceptions of city mpg, but then again, I didn't buy it for its fuel economy. Surprisingly, it did really well on the highway.

Die Wolfe 02-07-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor_H (Post 7365512)
I took advantage that the rain stopped momentarily to snap a quick iPhone pic. Here she is. I'll post more detailed photos when I can wash her. :D

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...psfd54df92.jpg

Very nice color choice! ;)

Now black out those grilles! Lol

ndabunka 02-07-2013 03:41 PM

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Doctor_H 02-07-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Die Wolfe (Post 7366693)
Very nice color choice! ;)

Now black out those grilles! Lol

Danke, Die Wolfe. I'll have to see what it looks like with the grills blacked out. Down the road, I'd like to powder coat the wheels in black.

PAX5 02-07-2013 06:54 PM

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Just today I was perusing the Mannheim car auction prices on 011 X5 50i ... BTW, the majority of these are M-sport packages with all the goodies.

These are the actual sale prices:

BTW, anybody know what an "8GT" engine is? That particular one commanded a premium.

Doctor_H 02-07-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAX5 (Post 7367125)
Just today I was perusing the Mannheim car auction prices on 011 X5 50i ... BTW, the majority of these are M-sport packages with all the goodies.

These are the actual sale prices:

BTW, anybody know what an "8GT" engine is? That particular one commanded a premium.

Sweet! after seeing some of the auction prices on these 2011, I feel pretty reassured I got a good deal on my '12. Thanks for sharing, Pax!

Die Wolfe 02-07-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor_H (Post 7366855)
Danke, Die Wolfe. I'll have to see what it looks like with the grills blacked out. Down the road, I'd like to powder coat the wheels in black.

Right on, I did that to my wheels too...you'll love it powder coated black!

Bis spater mein freund!

Doctor_H 02-09-2013 06:53 PM

Finally, I took advantage of a beautiful day to wash her and somewhat clean the interior. :D
Here she is in all her glory.

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Die Wolfe 02-09-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor_H (Post 7371287)

Beautiful!

Doctor_H 02-09-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Die Wolfe (Post 7371309)
Beautiful!

Much obliged, my friend!


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