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superfi77 02-05-2013 09:51 AM

Oil change after break-in period?
 
hi all,

Just curious if anyone replaces the oil after break in period? I don't think the dealership would offer this?

Elk 02-05-2013 04:16 PM

If you choose to change the oil prior to the 15,000 miles recommended by BMW, you need to either do it yourself (exceedingly easy) or pay to have it done.

If you use the search function you will find many, many threads discussing oil.

WaxComb 02-05-2013 05:30 PM

It's also been said that BMW typically breaks the engine in at the factory. In that case an oil change would probably not be helpful.

-=Hot|Ice=- 02-05-2013 05:58 PM

Only for M Cars.

Rover 02-05-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaxComb (Post 7362220)
It's also been said that BMW typically breaks the engine in at the factory. In that case an oil change would probably not be helpful.

They don't break the engine in at the factory. It takes 500 to 1000 miles to do that.
An oil change at 500 to 1000 miles may not hurt....in that you may get some of the initial engine shavings out of the system.

Taeksoo 02-05-2013 07:27 PM

I'm also interested in this topic. I got about 2,500 on my 335i sport and I'm thinking I'll pay for first one in spring.
I've read allot of threads on this and what I got out is.... There is no harm in doing it. But there COULD be harm if not done. I don't think anyone has any solid proof and mostly it's about what makes you feel better.
So, for me little money is worth it. Otherwise I'll wonder if I should have done it if something goes wrong later. BTW, I'm wanting to keep this for a long time. If you are not then don't.

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Elk 02-05-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Taeksoo (Post 7362498)
I got about 2,500 on my 335i sport and I'm thinking I'll pay for first one in spring.

I encourage you to do it yourself as this is the easiest oil change you will ever do. It's literally a ten minute process.

In addition to BMW labeled oil, the approved oils are:

Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30

Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40

Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30

Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30

jjcruiser 02-05-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 7362519)
I encourage you to do it yourself as this is the easiest oil change you will ever do. It's literally a ten minute process.

Just curious why you would say this. Is it easier than a later oil change, for example? Or do you just mean in an F30 car?

Orient330iNYC 02-05-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjcruiser (Post 7362655)
Just curious why you would say this. Is it easier than a later oil change, for example? Or do you just mean in an F30 car?

I think he means in general.

The filter is under the hood, near the front of the engine, the oil plug is easily accessible under the engine, youll probably spend more time setting up the ramps than changing the oil

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Michael Schott 02-06-2013 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rover (Post 7362413)
They don't break the engine in at the factory. It takes 500 to 1000 miles to do that.
An oil change at 500 to 1000 miles may not hurt....in that you may get some of the initial engine shavings out of the system.

Welcome to 1980. :) BMW does do a run in on the cars at the factory. It's not a substitution for the real world break-in that BMW describes in the owner's manual but I doubt that with modern manufacturing techniques there are but a few shavings in the engine. Plus we are talking about very sophisticated engines with high tech synthetic oil. There is no need for a break in oil change in this day and age.

Elk 02-06-2013 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC (Post 7362741)
I think he means in general.

The filter is under the hood, near the front of the engine, the oil plug is easily accessible under the engine, youll probably spend more time setting up the ramps than changing the oil.

Exactly. The F30 is very maintenance friendly.

Elk 02-06-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Schott (Post 7363079)
Welcome to 1980. :)

. . .

There is no need for a break in oil change in this day and age.

:tsk:
Let's nip this in the bud, now and leave it with there are many who disagree with this position, and those that do agree.

This horse is so dead it has already completely decomposed.

Yobyot 02-06-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaxComb (Post 7362220)
It's also been said that BMW typically breaks the engine in at the factory. In that case an oil change would probably not be helpful.

It may be "said" that BMW breaks-in the engine at the factory, but it wouldn't be true.

In 2005, I visited the plant in Munich where the N52s and the V-10 for the E60 M5 was built. The high-volume N52 was tested on a machine then installed in cars. The V-10 was hand-built and tested by hand.

When I picked up my F30 last July, I toured the factory again. The N20s and N55s were also being tested for a few minutes in an automated machine then assembled into cars.

Oil change discussions on BMW forums are like religions: everone's is different.

For my part, I can't see how it's good for an engine to go a year or 15K on the original lubricant. I had mine changed at 4K miles.

search 03-21-2013 03:46 PM

quick questions, i am gonna diy to change my oil at 75k mark, but what is the good interval to do the oil filter change and is it as easy as well?
Thanks

search 03-21-2013 04:01 PM

7.5k, my bad

That70sGAdawg 03-21-2013 08:43 PM

My new baby is getting one at 2500 miles...
Call me old school, but I've paid for others abuse with used BMW's.

spicytofu 03-22-2013 06:36 AM

I changed mine at 1500k, saw lots of silver shavings and shiny floating particles. Its always a good investment.

finaloption 03-22-2013 07:28 AM

hit 3500 miles today, so i will do an oil change this weekend using GC. from the DIY pics posted on f30driver, it looks very very easy
http://www.f30driver.com/bmw-f30-pho...20-Oil-Change/
edit: added link of diy

bmw_or_audi 03-22-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spicytofu (Post 7462777)
I changed mine at 1500k, saw lots of silver shavings and shiny floating particles. Its always a good investment.

Wouldn't the filter pick up any particle that is big enough to see?

bmw_or_audi 03-22-2013 11:30 AM

Btwy, Audi now does the first oil change at 5K, and then every 10K afterwards.

For the A4 at least, it has been claimed at various times that the factory oil is a little different, supposedly tailored for some sort of a break-in, and that changing it prematurely is not a good idea. But I have no idea whether that is true or not :)


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