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debls 03-21-2013 07:42 PM

Headlights
 
How are the headlights, we are looking at an X1 that doesn't have the extra light package..will we see ok at night?? Car we have now is not so good...

kjboyd 03-21-2013 07:57 PM

BMW lights are lousy unless you get the xenons. It's worth the extra money.

Marshotel 03-21-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by debls (Post 7462040)
How are the headlights, we are looking at an X1 that doesn't have the extra light package..will we see ok at night?? Car we have now is not so good...

I think it is really a matter of personal preference. Personally, HID headlamps are a must when I am looking for a new car. I think they provide better visibility. However, I don't think you will have a problem seeing at night with the halogens.

edx1 03-21-2013 09:24 PM

IMO HID are mostly marketing and a statement. If someone has aging eyes HID can help or hurt or have no effect if you live in a place with street lights on most roads and freeways. We've briefly touched on HID pro's/con's in another thread in more detail, might be worth searching for. For me though, the adaptive headlight feature is what sold me. I live in a very rural area with twisting roads plus runners, bikers and kids out at night in neighborhoods before or after sunset and the adaptive feature is very helpful.

Xeraphim 03-22-2013 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by debls (Post 7462040)
How are the headlights, we are looking at an X1 that doesn't have the extra light package..will we see ok at night?? Car we have now is not so good...

I night tested the car and I can say that the headlights are ok. They are on par with most new car standard lights. If you are looking to see through the car ahead of you (IE illuminate the car and its forward passage as well) then you should upgrade the lighting package. It is well worth it.

Txchas 03-22-2013 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Xeraphim (Post 7462632)
If you are looking to see through the car ahead of you (IE illuminate the car and its forward passage as well) then you should upgrade the lighting package

You mean blind and disorient the driver ahead of you???

The standard lights offer very good visibility. One of my pet peeves is being blinded by oncoming HID's that are not aimed properly. If they are aimed to avoid blinding other drivers, low beam HID's offer no further visibility than halogens.

Xeraphim 03-22-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Txchas (Post 7462928)
You mean blind and disorient the driver ahead of you???

The standard lights offer very good visibility. One of my pet peeves is being blinded by oncoming HID's that are not aimed properly. If they are aimed to avoid blinding other drivers, low beam HID's offer no further visibility than halogens.

:thumbup:
I always assumed that the people with the high beams burning through the back of my trunk and giving me the quick tan were trying to see if they could generate XRays and illuminate the road for me when my headlights were not bright enough.

I guess your explanation and thoughts work better than mine though

AzNMpower32 03-22-2013 03:30 PM

There are many people who have gone for the standard halogens, only to come back and post a thread along the lines of "How much does it cost to retrofit/upgrade my halogens? I wish I had gotten the Xenon upgrade but I didn't because "

If you live in an urban area with a lot of street lighting, then the halogens will suffice. If you drive in a more rural, xenons are a must. Don't worry about blinding others as headlights are required to have an aim or levelling adjustment* and BMWs with the xenons will have the self-levelling mechanism.

*Does not apply to North American vehicles

redsoxx1918 03-22-2013 05:32 PM

Listen....of course the xenons are better than the halogens. But, they cost an extra $1200 for the lighting package. If you're watching your money in these tough economic times, forgoing the lighting package is a good way to save some money. I got the X Drive 28i with X Line, premium pkg, cold weather pkg, satin alum rails and Sat radio. I skipped the lighting package and the tech package and walked away with a beautiful X1 for 36K. My iPhone 5 has great NAV built in and, for me, the halogen headlights work just fine. If you have money to burn, by all means get the xenons. If I had an extra 100K to burn I'd be driving a Porsche Cayenne Turbo instead of an X1. Buy what you can afford.

Ex-One 03-22-2013 06:29 PM

IMHO...FWIW...it seems silly to fork out $35,000 or more for a car that you won't feel 100% comfortable driving at night. If you can "afford" a BMW (because let's face it, we are not buying for practicality) then you can "afford" the $1,200 lighting package.

Just my 2 cents.

Stanw 03-22-2013 06:35 PM

BTW the 2014 lighting package is $900 and if you do any rural driving it pays.....

redsoxx1918 03-22-2013 07:14 PM

Then I guess YOU can "afford" every single option on your BMW. That'll put you at 50K. And since you're not buying for practicality and you're spending 50K, I guess you should just spend 80K and get an X6.

I actually did buy my car for practicality. I get the quality, speed, handling and fun to drive characteristics with the practicality of free maintenance, free loaner cars, great gas mileage, decent storage, and a roof rack system to carry my bike and kayaks. I'm also 100% comfortable driving my X1 at night with my halogen headlights. They work great. And when your xenons break, like they did on my 3 series coupe, it'll cost you $1200 each to replace. Me? I'll just run down to the local auto parts store and grab a new bulb for a few bucks.

Ex-One 03-22-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by redsoxx1918 (Post 7464724)
Then I guess YOU can "afford" every single option on your BMW. That'll put you at 50K. And since you're not buying for practicality and you're spending 50K, I guess you should just spend 80K and get an X6.

I actually did buy my car for practicality. I get the quality, speed, handling and fun to drive characteristics with the practicality of free maintenance, free loaner cars, great gas mileage, decent storage, and a roof rack system to carry my bike and kayaks. I'm also 100% comfortable driving my X1 at night with my halogen headlights. They work great. And when your xenons break, like they did on my 3 series coupe, it'll cost you $1200 each to replace. Me? I'll just run down to the local auto parts store and grab a new bulb for a few bucks.

I meant no offense or disrespect.

I actually did buy a fully loaded X1 and yes I did look at the X6 X5 and X3 but the X1 drove better for my style. I prefer smaller vehicles but wanted some versatility and a fun to drive factor.


Btw if your worried about the cost of future replacement parts and maintenance you have the wrong badge on your car.


Again...just my 2 cents.

flapwell 03-23-2013 09:14 AM

-100%
 
Some folks can't help but dig themselves in deeper.

He likes his car and he's happy with his lights. We should all hope for that.

Stanw 03-23-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Stanw (Post 7464609)
BTW the 2014 lighting package is $900 and if you do any rural driving it pays.....

We have the adaptive xenons on our 2007 Coupe and we find them quite handy driving our type of back country roads. We judged the money well spent when buying a replacement vehicle.

cwickberg 03-23-2013 06:04 PM

So glad BMW made it a stand alone package for 2014, since we do not need the premium package.

miataken 03-25-2013 05:38 PM

Personally, I got xenon for look, practicality, and re-sell value. Granted all 3 points are arguable, I believe Xenon w/ angel eyes gives the X1 a more updated look, higher lumen output, and higher resell value, especially when HID becomes more popular and could become standard equipment for luxury brand. I would not be surprised if BMW stop offering halogen headlight in a few years time. Just my $0.02.

Ex-One 03-25-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by miataken (Post 7471044)
Personally, I got xenon for look, practicality, and re-sell value. Granted all 3 points are arguable, I believe Xenon w/ angle eyes gives the X1 a more updated look, higher lumen output, and higher resell value, especially when HID becomes more popular and could become standard equipment for luxury brand. I would not be surprised if BMW stop offering halogen headlight in a few years time. Just my $0.02.

Very true. It's already standard on other non luxury lines.


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