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Old 09-07-2010, 03:19 PM
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Oohhh, I've been banned for a week on ///5Board. I have to say I didn't realize how great Bimmerfest is. I have an entirely new respect for our management. I've posted a goodly number of opposing views since I've been here. I've never been censored and rarely had my words' meaning twisted into comments/thoughts that really are beyond comprehension. I am completely serious when I say that forum really scares me. I've never seen such a high level of vitriol on any other BMW forum.

Thank you, Bimmerfest management/mods!!!

Originally Posted by dunderhi View Post
Okay, let's assume for argument sake the OP inflamed the situation. Let's say the dealer should have had the right to fix the car himself. Let's say people shouldn't be allowed to share opinions or information on forums unless they sign-up someone to provide the counterpoint. Assuming all of the previous assumptions could possibly be true, I have one just question. How, under what circumstance, does damaging a customer's property put the dealer in the right? The dealer's defenders are acting as if the dealer has been wronged.

What if the OP took a sledgehammer to a car in the showroom and then offered to fix it himself? No harm, no foul, right? The dealership should gladly take that deal right? I should also assume the dealer wouldn't claim diminished value when he sold this car at a reduced cost, right?
No one here on Bimmerfest has defended the "crash dealer". They've only looked at the situation with a dispassionate, reasonable, realistic view point.

Originally Posted by ard View Post
Or less wreck the car on a test drive. I'm sure the dealer will let you fix it, as long as he gets a rental ford taurus for demo drives.

like I said, once people understand the dealer had zero right to be able to repair the mess he caused, the OP did the very BEST thing by getting an independent appraisal.
If you wreck a car on a test drive (even if it's an ///M5) the dealer is going to be disappointed and they are going to look straight to you and your insurance company to make them whole. They are probably going to insist the repair be made at a BMW Certified Collision Repair Center, if there is one within a reasonable distance.

I haven't read anyone say the offending dealer should be allowed to repair the car. In fact, since BMW of Dallas has a BMW CCRC, I think they are an excellent choice to do the repair. A sentiment I expressed more than one on that other forum.

Originally Posted by Michael Schott View Post
I didn't say the dealer is in the right. If the car was damaged under their care, they should bear 100% of the costs to restore it to the condition it was in before the accident.

By the way, if say the OP took a sledgehammer to the car in the showroom he should be prosecuted. That's malicious.
Michael, no fair bringing reasoning into this topic.

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