So what exactly constutes a "True Sports Sedan"? 0-60 times and skid pad numbers can be impressive on paper but do not tell the entire story about how a car drives in the environment it is going to be driven in (which is generally not a drag strip or a skid pad). People buying sport sedans are generally not looking for hard core track cars or race cars, they are looking for a car that balances daily driver practicality with somewhat better than average performance. The ATS and the 3 Series both fit that definition and depending on how they are optioned can be oriented toward luxury or toward sportiness, but in any of their available iterations both would qualify as sport sedans IMO
Originally Posted by filmoreslim
The problem with this whole thread is that neither a 3 series nor an ATS should be evaluated on a sports basis. If you want a true sports sedan, you are buying an M3 sedan or an AMG. The 3 series buyer wants a nice car in that size range that has excellent utility and handles well with all the smart bells and whistles. I don't know many 3 series buyers that are buying because of the 0-60 times or the skid-pad number.
If you are looking for a hard core dedicated track car you are not going to find one in a BMW, Mercedes Benz or a Cadillac showroom.
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Last edited by captainaudio; 11-25-2012 at 03:20 AM.