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Old 01-02-2013, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by av98 View Post
No argument here if you are coming from another brand. It's not even a close comparison. There's a reason why all the other car manufacturers chase the 3 series and use it as a benchmark.

Unfortunately, most of the people complaining are the previous owners of 3 series generations looking to upgrade into the latest and greatest. Most find that the current model is not worth upgrading into because they have been spoiled by the even better and greater whole package feel that the previous generations have made legendary. The previous generation 3 series was never the fastest from 0-60, on the track, 1/4 mile, skidpad, slalom, etc... I could go on and on and on about specs and comparisons. It was always considered a drivers car because it's precision of control and balance was unparalleled across all trims- base, sport, M models. It basically was so well designed starting from the chassis, suspension, brakes, engine, interior and exterior that the whole package is a benchmark for others to chase. The amount of driver input was never dulled, delayed or compromised as most are complaining with the new F30. It just seems the target market for this latest generation is more towards the main stream of drivers which drives the most volume of revenue and sales. Can't blame BMW, it's what makes Toyota and Honda lots of money. However, thank god they still provide options to get back to the previous 3 series whole package, higher percision, control with refinement benchmark; add BMW M performance parts. So they have achieved to get into the mainstream market while appeasing their enthusiast followers; even if it requires more customization than previously needed from their older generation 3 series. Just my 2 cents.

Now go customize or enjoy to your own content.
You are talking about different things.

The F30 not being balanced because it loses some steering feel/feedback? No.

The F30 328 with SPORTS suspension is incredibly balanced. It feels light on it's feet(or nose), changes direction very well and has a controlled tossable feel that is just as good as the E90 ever was. Throw in the torque of the N20 to power out of turns and you have a great thing going. In terms of balance as in all the qualities that makes a sporty sedan, it took a little from column A but gained a lot in other columns.

So the F30 isn't unbalanced, or lost balance or however you were trying to paint it. It just has something different, and a bit less of a quality-steering feel than the E90.

There is such exaggeration round here sometimes, REDUCTION or DECREASE is not the same as NONE or NOTHING.

E36/7: Dinan/RMS stage 2+ blower@11-16lbs of BOOST! 18" BBS LM's, too much more to list
F30: 6mt, SOLD

'06 Saab 9-5 wagon 5mt LSD, clipped turbo, 19psi, 400ft lbs of tq
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