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Old 03-03-2013, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by boltjaM3s View Post
Well, the F30 is proof-positive of that, no? Not yet, it will take more than a year to fail if it will. Not saying it will, but if it does the decline will be gradual, over 3 to 5 years.

Not like some recent college grad in BMW's design department made some sweeping decisions about the F30 and won some boardroom battles here. BMW spent millions of dollars over the course of years to determine exactly what the next gen 3 Series Sedan should look like, the customers voted, and here's what the sheetmetal says they said:

"We want a car that's bigger and wider."Get a 5 series
"We want a car that has a softer ride."Get a 5 series
"We want a car that doesn't steer like a truck." i drove trucks for a living when i was young. Not sure if you did or if you know what you're talking about
"We want a car that has a bigger back seat and more legroom."Get a 5 series
"We want a car with a bigger trunk."Get a 5 series
"We want a car with an exciting interior."hire an escort to drive around with you
"We want a car for the modern tech age." You can have all that optional tech fluff, no reason why it should effect handling
"We want a car with better gas mileage."I dont really care about my gas mileage, if i did i would get a prius. Most of the people who pay premium for a bmw are not that concerned with saving money on gas. Also, i used to get 21 mpg in e90, up to maybe 23 now, big deal? no.
"We want a car that's faster from 0-30 because we never drive 0-60." Not familiar with this argument at all. Must be the 1st time i ever heard someone say it.

The reason the F30 won't fail, can't fail, is because it was designed specifically for BMW's real customer base- baby boomers born in the late 1940's to mid 1960's who are getting older, wider, have growing children, have empty-nest couples they hang with, etc.

A young guy in Brooklyn Thank you, but i am not much yonger than you are. I drove my 1st BMW when i was 14 year old kid in Russia, long before this forum or even internet existedwho reads discussion forums and buys into the performance myth isn't who BMW is after. They'll appease you with a beefier suspension, bigger engines, bolt-on bumpers and the like, but you're not who the F30 is designed for. If it were, it wouldn't be an E39. It would be an E46.

Dude, just face it, 3 is not a luxury car. It does not give you status. And shallow people who do care about what you drive, most likely look down on you, thinking, look at that wide middle aged guy who can't afford a 5. That's not my opinon, i am just letting you know what most people think when they see you in a 3.
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