Car and Driver tests the BMW F30 328i against the Cadillac ATS 2.0t. Can the new caddy dethrone the BMW 3 series from the the front of the entry-level luxury segment?
Wow. Better chassis, better steering, more fun, yet it still comes in 2nd? This isn't BMW swatting away another fly, its winning by the hair on its chinny chin chin.
These reviewers all know 3 series like the back of their hands. It is the ATS they are not familiar with. I have to agree with them, while test-driving an ATS V6, I had wished the ATS chassis was in the new 3 series.
Those ridiculous 2.0T don't perform any better the larger NA engines of yore, not even direct injected neither are they significantly lighter. What a joke.
Those ridiculous 2.0T don't perform any better the larger NA engines of yore, not even direct injected neither are they significantly lighter. What a joke.
Tons of variables there. Go by EPA or people driving all cars in a similar fashion. Digging up some figure from a magazine for the 330 and making it out that it was the same driving situation as 6 years later, come on.:eeps:
EPA is deep into the 30's on the N20 and owners are even averaging as high as 40mpg like me.
Yea, i never understand why someone who doesn't own the car, has no intention of getting the car but enjoys coming on this forum and try and talk **** about the engine and or car.
I don't have a car and don't see myself getting one anytime soon. But i'm here because it's a hobby. Criticizing a car shouldn't be a privilege for car owners....
I don't have a car and don't see myself getting one anytime soon. But i'm here because it's a hobby. Criticizing a car shouldn't be a privilege for car owners....
What I found interesting was that the C&D reviewer praised the BMW manual transmission as one of the best while the MT reviewer found it to be the weak point of the car.
What I found interesting was that the C&D reviewer praised the BMW manual transmission as one of the best while the MT reviewer found it to be the weak point of the car.
I visit the F30 forum every once in a while to see if there's any F30 diesel news and think it's hilarious that :angel: hates the N20 too. He's still the only uh... well lets just call him a "member" that's on my ignore list.
The N20 is strong enough for the heavier 528, so I'm not sure what the big deal about it being in the 328. :dunno:
Good point but an ATS is nothing like what Cadillac produced in 2002. If you are referring to reliability how expensive is it to maintain that 10 year old E46 with 120,000 miles?
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