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Old 08-16-2006, 08:05 PM
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Old 08-20-2006, 12:34 AM
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335i $40,600
Steptronic $1,275
Paddles $100
Navigation $2,100
Bluetooth $750
Met. Paint $475
Cold Pckg. $750
Sport Pckg. $1,000
Destination + Handling $695
Total MSRP $47745
Discount from MSRP -1200
Total Paid $46545

Money Factor .0020
36/Month 12K/Year Residual value 60%

Monthly payment $647.55

Due at signing
First Payment 647.55
Sec. Deposit 700.00
Bank Fee 678.91
Sales Tax 2010.64
Inspection 45.00
Processing 45.00
Registration 70.00

Total $4197.10
Less Deposit-1000
Balance Due on Delivery $3197.10

Please Note:
A. I am in New York and Taxes here suck!!
B. I ordered the car a few days ago 30 days to build 30 days to ship
C. The dealer anticipates that by the time my car is in, the residual number should increase by 1 or 2 points if that does happen the payments will be
61% Residual (1point) $635.25
62% Residual (2point) $622.93

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Old 08-20-2006, 09:30 PM
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335i $40,600
Steptronic $1,275
Paddles $100
Navigation $2,100
Bluetooth $750
Met. Paint $475
Cold Pckg. $750
Sport Pckg. $1,000
Destination + Handling $695
Total MSRP $47745
Discount from MSRP -1200
Total Paid $46545

Money Factor .0020
36/Month 12K/Year Residual value 60%

Monthly payment $647.55

Due at signing
First Payment 647.55
Sec. Deposit 700.00
Bank Fee 678.91
Sales Tax 2010.64
Inspection 45.00
Processing 45.00
Registration 70.00

Total $4197.10
Less Deposit-1000
Balance Due on Delivery $3197.10

Please Note:
A. I am in New York and Taxes here suck!!
B. I ordered the car a few days ago 30 days to build 30 days to ship
C. The dealer anticipates that by the time my car is in, the residual number should increase by 1 or 2 points if that does happen the payments will be
61% Residual (1point) $635.25
62% Residual (2point) $622.93

Good luck
Hope this helps you
Just out of curiosity, what are your taxes?

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Old 08-20-2006, 10:08 PM
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:14 AM
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8.6250%
HA,.. 9.9% here!!
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Old 08-21-2006, 11:12 AM
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Before negotiating they were will to take 500 off the msrp...without me even asking...
I told him that another dealer was willing to take off 1200 and if he could match that I would sign with him...

He went to speak to the sales manager, came back in less than 2 minutes...and we had a deal..I probably could have had him take off more...but I messed up oh well
I am still happy with the deal...

**NOTE**
The dealer I went to Rallye BMW in New York...Is in an extremely affluent area and they usually do not negotiate...So deals are out there, I probably could have gotten a slightly better deal elsewhere, but this dealer is convenient for me..

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Old 10-26-2006, 09:21 PM
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HA,.. 9.9% here!!
Man, and I was pissed about my 2.75% in Delaware.
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Old 08-20-2006, 11:15 PM
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335i $40,600
Steptronic $1,275
Paddles $100
Navigation $2,100
Bluetooth $750
Met. Paint $475
Cold Pckg. $750
Sport Pckg. $1,000
Destination + Handling $695
Total MSRP $47745
Discount from MSRP -1200
Total Paid $46545

Money Factor .0020
36/Month 12K/Year Residual value 60%

Monthly payment $647.55

Due at signing
First Payment 647.55
Sec. Deposit 700.00
Bank Fee 678.91
Sales Tax 2010.64
Inspection 45.00
Processing 45.00
Registration 70.00

Total $4197.10
Less Deposit-1000
Balance Due on Delivery $3197.10

Please Note:
A. I am in New York and Taxes here suck!!
B. I ordered the car a few days ago 30 days to build 30 days to ship
C. The dealer anticipates that by the time my car is in, the residual number should increase by 1 or 2 points if that does happen the payments will be
61% Residual (1point) $635.25
62% Residual (2point) $622.93

Good luck
Hope this helps you
Wow, my 330i's MSRP is just $1,000 less than your 335i. My 330i's MSRP is $46,865.
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Old 08-21-2006, 12:52 AM
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Discount from MSRP -1200
Wow! That's a great deal considering that it's a lease and a brand new model that hasn't even come out yet; usually dealer's won't give any discount off MSRP for leases on new models.

Anybody in the so cal area get this kind of deal or anything off MSRP for non-ED lease on the 335i? If I could get this kind of deal, I may reconsider doing an ED.
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Old 08-22-2006, 08:52 PM
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335i $40,600
Steptronic $1,275
Paddles $100
Navigation $2,100
Bluetooth $750
Met. Paint $475
Cold Pckg. $750
Sport Pckg. $1,000
Destination + Handling $695
Total MSRP $47745
Discount from MSRP -1200
Total Paid $46545
Close to $50,000 and vinyl seats???

Geez, next time the Fed claims there's no inflation....
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:02 PM
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Close to $50,000 and vinyl seats???

Geez, next time the Fed claims there's no inflation....
I sat on the leather, and the leatherette and the difference (if getting black) is not great enough for me.
Maybe I am a retard, but I really did not notice a difference..

If I am not going to appreciate it, then it is a waste of money.
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:50 PM
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If I am not going to appreciate it, then it is a waste of money.
It DOES smell different - leather smell versus Jersey Turnpike smell.

I'd prefer either cloth or Alcantara like the E46 ZHP, but BMW will not cooperate.

I remember (and it wasn't too long ago, like last year) when $50,000 was serious car money. Nothing wrong with vinyl, it worked just fine in Mom's Chevy. I'm just amazed that the 335i Mulroney sticker can climb that high without even specifying leather.
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:21 PM
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Old 08-25-2006, 02:45 PM
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What are negotiable in a lease?

I just got quoted from my local BMW dealership the following:

Money Factor: 2.4 compared to 2.0 posted by Trick50
Bank fee: $825 compared to 678.91 posted by Trick 50

Are the above terms negotiable? Also, what else is negotiable in a lease?
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:35 PM
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What are negotiable in a lease?

I just got quoted from my local BMW dealership the following:

Money Factor: 2.4 compared to 2.0 posted by Trick50
Bank fee: $825 compared to 678.91 posted by Trick 50

Are the above terms negotiable? Also, what else is negotiable in a lease?
I did not negotiate my bank fee, however I have recently been informed from a co-worker that bank fee's are totally BS and in some scenarios you can have the dealer waive it or lower it. The 800 number sounds a little out of line..
And the money factor is not something you should be negotiating.
.0020 is what is set by BMW Financial Services as basically the interest rate. Your dealer is trying to make money on that also.

Did he offer to come down off the MSRP?

In most cases the Money Factor is not something you should have to negotiate, before going to the dealer you should find out on a website such as this what the residual and MF are.
Currently with BMWFS it is .0020
36/12 residual is 60%

The only thing to really negotiate should be free floor mats, and the msrp.

I think he is trying to take you to the cleaners, try another dealer, come in with your own notes.

Write out exactly what you want, with the price of each option..
Be certain to list Invoice price and MSRP.

also on that paper have the residual written on it and the MF...Just hand it to him..
Say this is what I want I know you have a profit on the car of $4k (example)...what can you take off from here...
If he says something stupid like $500..Tell him point blank that ABC Dealer has offered to take 1500 (example) off the car however you do not wish to do business with them because the sales mgr is a dick.

Tell him if he can match it or come close to that you will sign with him.

More often than not he will say yes.

Good luck
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:37 PM
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I did not negotiate my bank fee, however I have recently been informed from a co-worker that bank fee's are totally BS and in some scenarios you can have the dealer waive it or lower it. The 800 number sounds a little out of line..
And the money factor is not something you should be negotiating.
.0020 is what is set by BMW Financial Services as basically the interest rate. Your dealer is trying to make money on that also.

Did he offer to come down off the MSRP?

In most cases the Money Factor is not something you should have to negotiate, before going to the dealer you should find out on a website such as this what the residual and MF are.
Currently with BMWFS it is .0020
36/12 residual is 60%

The only thing to really negotiate should be free floor mats, and the msrp.

I think he is trying to take you to the cleaners, try another dealer, come in with your own notes.

Write out exactly what you want, with the price of each option..
Be certain to list Invoice price and MSRP.

also on that paper have the residual written on it and the MF...Just hand it to him..
Say this is what I want I know you have a profit on the car of $4k (example)...what can you take off from here...
If he says something stupid like $500..Tell him point blank that ABC Dealer has offered to take 1500 (example) off the car however you do not wish to do business with them because the sales mgr is a dick.

Tell him if he can match it or come close to that you will sign with him.

More often than not he will say yes.

Good luck

dealers can mark up the aquisition fee from 625 to 825 max.

dealers can mark up the MF by .0004 max.

dealers CAN'T do anything to the residual.

dealers can negotiate the selling price of the car (which you still need to do in a lease).
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Old 08-25-2006, 06:39 PM
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schley,

Thanks for the information. Sounds like the deal is maxing on BOTH the aquisition fee and the MF. Any way to reason with them? Is this one of those "Take it or leave it" situations?

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dealers can mark up the aquisition fee from 625 to 825 max.

dealers can mark up the MF by .0004 max.

dealers CAN'T do anything to the residual.

dealers can negotiate the selling price of the car (which you still need to do in a lease).
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schley,

Thanks for the information. Sounds like the deal is maxing on BOTH the aquisition fee and the MF. Any way to reason with them? Is this one of those "Take it or leave it" situations?

Thanks
I'm not sure how you negotiated this lease. I think it maybe problematic to all the sudden come back enlightened about leasesa and start negotiating. My suggestion would be to tell them you had a better offer and give them the numbers you want. If they won't do that then you can go looking for another dealer. Most times getting the buy rate MF isn't so tough, it is the 625 aquisition fee that many are dead set on charging 825, because they say the finance guy has to make something. just fyi.
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Also, does anyone know the the costs involved when returning a lease?

Thanks.
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Old 08-26-2006, 11:53 PM
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36 months: 58% residual $25k buyout at end of lease 574/month
42 months: 52% residual $22k buyout at end of lease $575/month.

thinking of going w/ the latter
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I initially negotiated a $1200 profit for the dealer only to be toldlater that the price did not include advertising and training fees
There is NO MACO fee or Training fee on ED cars.

Dealer can add max of .0004 to MF so it looks like they did the max ( .002 + .0003 + .0004 = .0027 )

You can do 7 x MSD's ( 7 x 0.00007 = 0.00049 )

Take a look at the lease calculators in the Ask-A-Dealer section here:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60089

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Old 08-27-2006, 07:51 AM
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Also, does anyone know the the costs involved when returning a lease?

Thanks.
Typically:

$350 disposition fee
$0.20 for each mile over contractual mileage
$100 for any lost keys
$150 for minor damages (each instance)
$450 for major damages (each instance)

So, basically, if you take care of the car and stay within your mileage, it'll cost you a grand total of $350. Which would be waived if you lease another BMW, in which case it would cost you $0.
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MrSilver, my MSRP is a bit higher than yours and my payment is the same...however I've got 15k miles/yr. There's a big difference in $ between 10k and 15k/yr. You can do better IMHO.
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MrSilver, my MSRP is a bit higher than yours and my payment is the same...however I've got 15k miles/yr. There's a big difference in $ between 10k and 15k/yr. You can do better IMHO.
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