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Old 03-04-2007, 05:59 AM
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335I Engine Malfunction

One of the reasons I joined this forum is to see if anyone else has experiended a similar problem I'm having with my 335I Coupe. I'm currently living in Germany and purchased my American spec 335I Coupe in Nov and have approx 4100 miles on it. While crusing at approx 80 MPH in 6 gear my car started to run rough, acting as if a spark plug was misfiring or water was in the gas tank. Eventually an engine fault indication appeared on my display and the words power reduced service engine also appeared. I took it to my local dealer and was informed there was a recall and I needed new software. The software was loaded and the probelm remained. I took it to a different dealer and they hooked it up to their computer and found nothing wrong. I will take it for a thrid time because I'm still having the problem. When driving agressively and shifting throught the gears at high RPMs I don't experience the problem only at crusing speed and lower RPMs. Has anyone else had this problem?
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:31 AM
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Possible fuel pump issue. Has been a fairly common problem on these engines.
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Old 03-08-2007, 10:47 AM
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man you guys, this is no ok. fuel pump or not. at 3000 miles? Multiple failures? Give me a break. blind loyalty can only get in the way of improving a product. Look a ford and chevy. Their cars sucks and it had been ok because people still bought them. Now facing share loss they actually starting to make better cars.

So stop defending the cars defects and maybe BMW will start building more reliable cars. Wake up and realize that BMW didn't fully validate this vehicle and are using the first batch of owners to do the most basic of tests. Any sort of decent testing would have uncovered this.

Some of you guys are like the moms that defend their obnoxious kids without reason and point to other kids. It cracks me up every time I see a "Infiniti recalled 1000 times!" thread on the 3series board.

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Old 03-08-2007, 11:00 AM
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So stop defending the cars defects and maybe BMW will start building more reliable cars. Wake up and realize that BMW didn't fully validate this vehicle and are using the first batch of owners to do the most basic of tests. Any sort of decent testing would have uncovered this.
I have yet to see a single post "defending the cars defects..." Although these cars are thoroughly tested before launch, I know that this is not uncommon for a first year car. I bought my 335i knowing that I would be one of the first owners and that there might be some teething issues. It's the price that we pay for being on the bleeding edge and having the newest toy in the neighborhood!
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I have yet to see a single post "defending the cars defects..." Although these cars are thoroughly tested before launch, I know that this is not uncommon for a first year car. I bought my 335i knowing that I would be one of the first owners and that there might be some teething issues. It's the price that we pay for being on the bleeding edge and having the newest toy in the neighborhood!
definition of defend here is blowing it off as something that is expected or writing a problem off as a minor bug. I would be angry and embarassed if my 46k vehicle started sputtering before I even finished the break-in.

I am a previous owner of a s2000, and on the forums whenever a cluth problem, or tranny problem appears everyone on the forums would be all over it. None of this "ah it's nothing" or "hey, it's just the teething process".

Of course it is always difficult to criticize your baby.
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:44 PM
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definition of defend here is blowing it off as something that is expected or writing a problem off as a minor bug. I would be angry and embarassed if my 46k vehicle started sputtering before I even finished the break-in.

I am a previous owner of a s2000, and on the forums whenever a cluth problem, or tranny problem appears everyone on the forums would be all over it. None of this "ah it's nothing" or "hey, it's just the teething process".

Of course it is always difficult to criticize your baby.
Maybe there is just a different perspective coming from BMW owners compared to, in your example, S2000 owners. I'm a pretty laid back guy. If my car had the fuel pump problem I'd make an appointment, drive a loaner for a week, and then get my car back fixed. If it were another brand of car I'd look at this issue the exact same way. If I continued to have problems then I would start to look at other solution; but right now this particular problem seems to be well handled. I don't know, that's just me.
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Old 03-09-2007, 11:03 AM
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definition of defend here is blowing it off as something that is expected or writing a problem off as a minor bug. I would be angry and embarassed if my 46k vehicle started sputtering before I even finished the break-in.

I am a previous owner of a s2000, and on the forums whenever a cluth problem, or tranny problem appears everyone on the forums would be all over it. None of this "ah it's nothing" or "hey, it's just the teething process".

Of course it is always difficult to criticize your baby.
This speaks to the maturity level of this forum. The participants tend to spell and speak properly, not to be reactionary, and to tend to be mature and full of experience. Simply, stated they take failures, that are quite common for any first year car, in stride and respond with the appropriate vigor when the situation call for it. This is clearly not one of those times. However, if you want to hear people whine and bang their fists, perhaps you should return to the S2000 forum?
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Old 03-11-2007, 11:42 AM
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definition of defend here is blowing it off as something that is expected or writing a problem off as a minor bug. I would be angry and embarassed if my 46k vehicle started sputtering before I even finished the break-in.

I am a previous owner of a s2000, and on the forums whenever a cluth problem, or tranny problem appears everyone on the forums would be all over it. None of this "ah it's nothing" or "hey, it's just the teething process".

Of course it is always difficult to criticize your baby.
If you want a car that runs like an appliance then buy a Honda or Toyota. Otherwise, you may want to stick with the final year of production of any BMW so that "all of the bugs are worked out"...

I would rather drive a BMW that may not be perfect than something else...that's a personal choice.
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man you guys, this is no ok. fuel pump or not. at 3000 miles? Multiple failures? Give me a break. blind loyalty can only get in the way of improving a product. Look a ford and chevy. Their cars sucks and it had been ok because people still bought them. Now facing share loss they actually starting to make better cars.

So stop defending the cars defects and maybe BMW will start building more reliable cars. Wake up and realize that BMW didn't fully validate this vehicle and are using the first batch of owners to do the most basic of tests. Any sort of decent testing would have uncovered this.

Some of you guys are like the moms that defend their obnoxious kids without reason and point to other kids. It cracks me up every time I see a "Infiniti recalled 1000 times!" thread on the 3series board.
Quite an ignorant position, frankly.

Nobody is forcing you to buy a BMW. Go get a Toyota instead.

When I have fun cars (Porsche and BMW), I expect them to have issues because they are complex machines - and their designers are pushing the envelope.

When I have boring cars (Toyota and Honda), then tend to be a bit (barely) more reliable. Boring engineering breeds reliability.
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Old 03-08-2007, 11:14 PM
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Boring engineering breeds reliability.
+1 Very well stated.

As for others comments that our loyalty breeds complacency, that is not a logical statement from a business statement. Failures cost money. It is in BMW's best interest to have the cars perform as reliably as possible. BMW owners are far from complacent, they are highly demanding and expect the bleeding edge of technology and performance. You don't perpetually raise the bar by notable levels year by year and BMW owners and our loyalty will fade away fast.

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Old 03-09-2007, 06:08 AM
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Quite an ignorant position, frankly.

Nobody is forcing you to buy a BMW. Go get a Toyota instead.

When I have fun cars (Porsche and BMW), I expect them to have issues because they are complex machines - and their designers are pushing the envelope.

When I have boring cars (Toyota and Honda), then tend to be a bit (barely) more reliable. Boring engineering breeds reliability.
Not only is it ignorant, but it's extremely hypocritical since toyota honda and virtually every other auto manufacturer on the planet has had similar or worse issues with MY 1 cars. You aren't going to get perfection to go along with your boringness & ugliness.
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Old 03-09-2007, 09:32 AM
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Quite an ignorant position, frankly.

Nobody is forcing you to buy a BMW. Go get a Toyota instead.

When I have fun cars (Porsche and BMW), I expect them to have issues because they are complex machines - and their designers are pushing the envelope.

When I have boring cars (Toyota and Honda), then tend to be a bit (barely) more reliable. Boring engineering breeds reliability.
Naw, no more ignorant then your position, frankly.

There are many vehicles that are reliable and fun. BMW doesn't have the monopoly on fun if you haven't noticed.
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Quite an ignorant position, frankly.

Nobody is forcing you to buy a BMW. Go get a Toyota instead.

When I have fun cars (Porsche and BMW), I expect them to have issues because they are complex machines - and their designers are pushing the envelope.

When I have boring cars (Toyota and Honda), then tend to be a bit (barely) more reliable. Boring engineering breeds reliability.
Direct injection requiring high pressure fuel delivery is a relatively new technology. Just for grins, I googled "fuel pump Saturn Sky Redline" (GM is using direct injection with turbocharging to get ~260hp and 260lb ft out of 2 liters in this car); and, amazingly, I found a discussion board thread that read almost exactly like these BMW threads about HPFPs. You could almost replace "Sky" with "335" and you'd barely be able to tell them apart - Except there were no Kool Aid drinkers forgiving GM because they were a premium brand who pushes the envelope on their sophisticated technologies. Replaced by that were people saying "when will GM ever get it right?" That is the difference in brand loyalty, folks (BMW still has it - GM has been losing it for a long time now). Open your eyes and don't let the marketers fool ya.

...and who hasn't gone to high pressure direct fuel injection, yet? You guessed it: Honda, Toyota, and Nissan (I think - is GTR direct injected?)

I wouldn't always equate new technology with more fun, though. DI gives you more efficient power, especially with turbos, it seems. An underrating of 300 hp and 300lbft of flat torque curve with gas mileage consistently over 25mpg on a 335 is great technology in my book, but not necessarily more fun than 300hp 300lb ft from an older tech V8 that gets 18 mpg...

I for one will be taking a close look at the G8 GXP 6 speed manual when my 335 lease is up in 2010. I can take the money saved on brand equity and bad Euro exchange rate and use it to pay for the extra gas the 6.2V8 will drink. ...especially since this will likely be the last time in my life to be able to get a relatively large displacement, powerful V8 on a middle income before the power elite regulate it beyond affordability for the more common folk.
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I had the exact same problem you described to a T. The dealer replaced the fuel pump (one week back ordered) and the problem immediately went away.
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I had the exact same problem you described to a T. The dealer replaced the fuel pump (one week back ordered) and the problem immediately went away.
Damn. A lot of people having trouble with their 335 engines?
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Damn. A lot of people having trouble with their 335 engines?
Jeezus, man....can`t you read???? It`s NOT an engine problem, it`s a fuel pump (or other auxiliary system component) problem....
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Jeezus, man....can`t you read???? It`s NOT an engine problem, it`s a fuel pump (or other auxiliary system component) problem....
you mean like when you have a stroke it's not a brain problem but a blood vessel problem? dont be a dumbass. I can read just fine.
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you mean like when you have a stroke it's not a brain problem but a blood vessel problem? dont be a dumbass. I can read just fine.
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Damn. A lot of people having trouble with their 335 engines?
No, that's not true...a small percentage of ppl on BMW Enthusiast Internet Forums are having some issues, but a majority of 335i owners are enjoying trouble-free driving!

FWIW -- to the OP, it does sound like the fuel pump problem.
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My 335i Sedan was manufactured in December and delivered in early Februrary. I had the fuel pump replaced after 2000 miles when the car started taking extra long to crank over because the fuel in the line was flowing back while it sat. I also noticed that when I punched it at times the car studdered, as it were. It will take about a week to get the part, but your dealer will likely give you a loaner if you take it to the place you bought it.

Take it in stride. Not a big deal.

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I have a similar problem. My car bucks/hesitates at low RPMs, especially when the engine is cold. I took it to the dealer yesterday morning, and they are working with BMW North America on diagnosing the problem. They said my car already has the most current software, and they think it is actually a fuel pump problem. I'm waiting to hear back from my service advisor for an update on the diagnosis. I hope I don't have to be without my car for long. I've only had it since Feb. 3.
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I have a similar problem. My car bucks/hesitates at low RPMs, especially when the engine is cold.
+1

I only have 600 miles on my car. I will wait a few months until fuel pumps are in stock.
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My ZHP had that issue. Turned out to be a coil issue.
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I think the fuel pump issues were related to an early build period but cars built recently shouldn't have this problem. I think if you search you can find the specific date range that was affected.
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I think the fuel pump issues were related to an early build period but cars built recently shouldn't have this problem. I think if you search you can find the specific date range that was affected.
early 2009 build and I am getting longer and longer cranks and the service engine soon light came on today

not sure if this issue is over yet

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