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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 04-03-2007, 07:25 AM
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AutoWeek article on M3

Interesting that this Autoweek article appears to show press shots of the production M3, but there are no new photos posted to the BMW press site (as of 10:30am EST on 4/3 anyway):

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...2007/1528/FREE
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:59 AM
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Interesting that the Autoweek article stated that an M3 Wagon is in the works --- probably not for us barbarians in North America, though.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:33 AM
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Good article. Nice to see a new picture....of a production model...and NOT in black or silver!











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Old 04-03-2007, 11:52 AM
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Looks MUCH better in Imola.
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:04 PM
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It looks the same as the concept car.I was expecting them to clean the design up in the production car.I don't like it.
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:10 PM
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I really wish they had flared those rear fenders a little more. . . .
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It looks the same as the concept car.I was expecting them to clean the design up in the production car.I don't like it.
Im glad you dont like it and any others who dont...that means I dont have to wait on the waiting list like I did for my 02 and didnt have a choice on my options...

good..keep on hating it..thanks!..
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Im glad you dont like it and any others who dont...that means I dont have to wait on the waiting list like I did for my 02 and didnt have a choice on my options...

good..keep on hating it..thanks!..
Recent magazine quotes here in Asia are quoting 4.6-4.8 seconds which is not all that great My sisters new Lexus IS 350 is 5.1 stock with 4 doors and a regular 3.5 liter V6in it. I was kind of expecting more or better lower times then what the current magazines are claiming. I thought the old E46 M3 did 0-60 in 4.8 seconds
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:50 AM
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It may be that BMW will not show true numbers lower than the M5 or M6...right now.

Plus, how many consumers even M3 owners really go out and match the auto rags 0-60 times on a daily basis. Spirited driving, Yes, pushing your car to the level of these mags regularly, No.

So really, what does it matter if you can go 0-60 in 2 secs when the majority of the consumers won't be doing it. All these numbers(0-60, hp, tq) have a marketing factor that causes many discrepancies and has to ride that fine line of attracting both sides of the fence to sell the car. Not saying it is right but BMW is in the business of selling cars whether we like it or not.

I hope when I get the New M3 it puts my M5 to shame. I am really hoping it does, I am in the minority consumer section that will push it daily.

We will see when it comes out.
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Recent magazine quotes here in Asia are quoting 4.6-4.8 seconds which is not all that great My sisters new Lexus IS 350 is 5.1 stock with 4 doors and a regular 3.5 liter V6in it. I was kind of expecting more or better lower times then what the current magazines are claiming. I thought the old E46 M3 did 0-60 in 4.8 seconds
unless there are road tests already out with production versions, i would discount any performance quotes until the car is actually out.
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:14 AM
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Looks MUCH better in Imola.
Actually Melbourne Red, yes?
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:38 AM
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Actually Melbourne Red, yes?

*shrug* did they change it? A bit darker? If it said the color in the article I didn't read it- I just looked at the pretty pictures. :-)
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:31 AM
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*shrug* did they change it? A bit darker?
Each red seems to get a bit darker.

E36 M3 (early cars) -- Mugello Red
E36 M3 (1995-on) -- Bright Red (slightly darker than Mugello)
E46 M3 -- Imola Red (slightly darker than Bright Red)
and now
E90 M3 -- Melbourne Red (not sure but I suspect slightly darker than Imola)

Not sure about the E30 M3s...
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:34 PM
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So, does it have a spare tire or even run flats? As a 5 year owner of an E46 M3 Convertible, I'm done with the "flat tire = tow the car" equation (my fifth time happened last Friday night - see separate post on the frustration with Pacific BMW).

The M "fix-a-flat" system is a joke. Ever tried to get a flat bed out in a reasonable time? Ever tried to have it towed by a normal tow truck? They have to jack the car up get the tire grabber bar under the car. Then, it's always fun to watch the unwary tow driver try to put the magnetic warning lights on the M's aluminum hood.

I had an E36 M3 and it had a full size spare with an alloy wheel. Quit stranding your customers for flat tires.
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F'n power dome They have to fix this on the Sedan. The in your face factor of blowing of an AMG with a plain jane E90.

The coupe exterior screams E46Fanatics ... the target market. The sedan, sleeper look, thanks BMW, for the sane rest of us.
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4.8 seconds to 60 is quite weak I was hoping for something better. A small tune on the 335i will beat those numbers easily. I like the new M3 but did not care so much for the performance numbers. 420 Horsepower should be able to get the numbers down a bit more. I was hoping for something around 4.3 or so A four door IS350 is around 5.2 seconds stock. the new M3 is quicker but not that much quicker..
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BMW 0-60 quotes when the car is preproduction are always pessimistic. The E46 M3 0-60 was 4.8 (it might hvae been better than that- I forget) after the car rags tested it.
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The 4.8 figure from the article was 0-62...not 60

They said it's about .4 seconds quicker than the E46 m3...so based on 4.8 seconds 0-60 for the old model, 4.4 seconds would be pretty solid. I bet it'll be a little quicker than that though.
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The 4.8 figure from the article was 0-62...not 60

They said it's about .4 seconds quicker than the E46 m3...so based on 4.8 seconds 0-60 for the old model, 4.4 seconds would be pretty solid. I bet it'll be a little quicker than that though.
From what I understood in that article was that this M3 is 4.8 seconds which is spposed to be .4 seconds quicker then the older model The article did not state 4.4 seconds which is supposed to be .4 seconds quicker then the older model
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From what I understood in that article was that this M3 is 4.8 seconds which is spposed to be .4 seconds quicker then the older model The article did not state 4.4 seconds which is supposed to be .4 seconds quicker then the older model
the article is quoting bmw's stated time of 4.8 seconds. bmw's times are always conservative. sooo, using the real world times of the E46 m3 of 4.8 seconds, and the articles mention of being .4 seconds quicker, i guesstimated the E60's time....
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There were 3 reds on the E30....Henna (mostly orange), Zinno (lighter than Imola), and Brilliant (lighter than Zinno).
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Old 04-05-2007, 11:47 AM
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They show all the colors on this website:


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some other pictures on the dutch autoweek site as well http://www.autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?ID=6313 they claim an identical 0-100 time as for the rs4 of audi, a little disappointing i guess
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I think the new M3 looks understated in some respects with the front end and panels still quite similar to a 335i coupe. My problem is that where the design deviates to emphasize "M" such as the bulbous hood buldge is just unappealing. Just my opinion.
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