Bimmerfest $20? wtf?

I came late last year and squeezed through the back gate, but this year there were people at both gates.

$20??? for 1600 cars is $32,000 where is that money going? I heard if you bought raffle tickets that money was going to the low income people in Santa Barbara which is ironic since SB is one of the most expensive places to live in the nation so I didn't even stick around for the raffle. With all the raffle tickets too, I bet there was a gross income of over $50,000.

Last time I checked at fairs and stuff the food places had to rent out a spot to have their food booth, I'm thinking that the vendors pay to have a spot too, and the only cost would be the Bimmerfest personnel $10/hr probably 10 of them for a total of 10 hrs, that's only $1000. And the cost to rent out the fairgrounds can't be over $10000.

I don't work hard so that poor people can work less and receive free money.

This might be the last year I support this event.

Gee, you weren't able to beat the system this year and cheat the Bimmerfest organizers, so now you're complaining about it? Are you also unhappy that someone stole the black banners before you could get to them? U.F.B.

Have you ever heard about facility fees? You are the kind of ingrate who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Go away.

Originally Posted by Malibubimmer

Gee, you weren't able to beat the system this year and cheat the Bimmerfest organizers, so now you're complaining about it? Are you also unhappy that someone stole the black banners before you could get to them? U.F.B.

Have you ever heard about facility fees? You are the kind of ingrate who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Go away.

+1

This is your first post? Thanks so much for contributing to the community.

This is more than a part time job for Jon, (unless he is superman). He deserves to be compensated for it, oh ya, he didn't do it alone either.

Other considerations:
Promotion
Insurance
Fairground rental

It sounds like if you didnt have $20 worth of fun, Bimmerfest may not be your thing anyway.

People never fail to suprise me .

Originally Posted by sc 540i

People never fail to suprise me .

X2....so the guy that made this thread is free loader.....not good at all this events are not cheap to put on...

Originally Posted by Malibubimmer

Gee, you weren't able to beat the system this year and cheat the Bimmerfest organizers, so now you're complaining about it? Are you also unhappy that someone stole the black banners before you could get to them? U.F.B.

Have you ever heard about facility fees? You are the kind of ingrate who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Go away.

I agree completely.

Originally Posted by Malibubimmer

Gee, you weren't able to beat the system this year and cheat the Bimmerfest organizers, so now you're complaining about it? Are you also unhappy that someone stole the black banners before you could get to them? U.F.B.

Have you ever heard about facility fees? You are the kind of ingrate who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Go away.

+2

$20 isn't a whole lotta money for a festival.

Originally Posted by lucky579

I came late last year and squeezed through the back gate, but this year there were people at both gates.

$20??? for 1600 cars is $32,000 where is that money going? I heard if you bought raffle tickets that money was going to the low income people in Santa Barbara which is ironic since SB is one of the most expensive places to live in the nation so I didn't even stick around for the raffle. With all the raffle tickets too, I bet there was a gross income of over $50,000.

Last time I checked at fairs and stuff the food places had to rent out a spot to have their food booth, I'm thinking that the vendors pay to have a spot too, and the only cost would be the Bimmerfest personnel $10/hr probably 10 of them for a total of 10 hrs, that's only $1000. And the cost to rent out the fairgrounds can't be over $10000.

I don't work hard so that poor people can work less and receive free money.

This might be the last year I support this event.

You "squeezed" thru the back gate last year, meaning you didn't pay?
So you tried to free load again this year and wasn't able to, is that it?

Well, here's the link for the charity your hard earned money went to, gate receipts and raffle: http://www.unityshoppe.org/

May be next time you can PM the powers that be and ask them where YOUR hard earned money went, as it is I'm biting my tongue pretty hard right now.

I live in SB, and yes while it is one of the riches places in America it is also one of the most expenisve places to live....There are very many parts of SB that are very very low income and not as pretty and nice as you think.....

Originally Posted by lucky579

I came late last year and squeezed through the back gate, but this year there were people at both gates.

$20??? for 1600 cars is $32,000 where is that money going? I heard if you bought raffle tickets that money was going to the low income people in Santa Barbara which is ironic since SB is one of the most expensive places to live in the nation so I didn't even stick around for the raffle. With all the raffle tickets too, I bet there was a gross income of over $50,000.

Last time I checked at fairs and stuff the food places had to rent out a spot to have their food booth, I'm thinking that the vendors pay to have a spot too, and the only cost would be the Bimmerfest personnel $10/hr probably 10 of them for a total of 10 hrs, that's only $1000. And the cost to rent out the fairgrounds can't be over $10000.

I don't work hard so that poor people can work less and receive free money.

This might be the last year I support this event.

WTF? Dude, you're F'd in the head. If you are complaining about paying $20 to get into the event then you shouldn't be attending and you should be paying a visit to the folks at the UNITY SHOPPE.

YES you are correct, SB is an expensive place to live in. Even more reason to help those that are not as fortunate and who are trying to make a living in SB. I see no irony there.

And how, in your infinite wisdom, do you know that poor people work less ? I'm sure you couldn't hang a week in their shoes.

Originally Posted by lucky579

This might be the last year I support this event.

Apparently it was your first time supporting it.





Motion to apply a minimum age to Bimmerfest and to include a beer garden.

Originally Posted by misterlance

Motion to apply a minimum age to Bimmerfest and to include a beer garden.

you're an asshole. The kid is uneducated as to what the unity shoppe is. So he is a punk for trying to sneak in and doing so successfully last year. Damn all you people seem to forget your teenage years. how many drive in movies did you sneak in to? How many stupid things have you done when you were in college? Get off your damn soap boxes. Im so tired of reading this stuff about "Kids are tearing apart the seams of society".


I am 18. iv been a member here since I was 16. You are being very ignorant as to what the problem here is. He is uneducated as to the cause and the purpose of the event. Yea the kid has a bit of an attitude, he is probably around 16 or 17, same age as I am practically. He is a peer to me. He has the same sort of "stick up his butt" (as you would say) that you probably had when you were this age.


You guys are ridiculous. Bark at him for trying to sneak in, and bark at him for his dishonestly and "shady-ness" But then you turn around and say "Hey lets have beer gardens at a CAR event" Great idea. You might as well call it DUI-fest. If you want to drink and then drive away in your BMW do so that doesn't endanger the better thinking half of the population. Alcohol and auto's(even auto events) do not mix.


EDIT: Just back off the kid. He does not get it. Don't sit and flame him. Tell him whats up and let him be.

Originally Posted by Buyse13

you're an asshole. The kid is uneducated as to what the unity shoppe is. So he is a punk for trying to sneak in and doing so successfully last year. Damn all you people seem to forget your teenage years. how many drive in movies did you sneak in to? How many stupid things have you done when you were in college? Get off your damn soap boxes. Im so tired of reading this stuff about "Kids are tearing apart the seams of society".


I am 18. iv been a member here since I was 16. You are being very ignorant as to what the problem here is. He is uneducated as to the cause and the purpose of the event. Yea the kid has a bit of an attitude, he is probably around 16 or 17, same age as I am practically. He is a peer to me. He has the same sort of "stick up his butt" (as you would say) that you probably had when you were this age.


You guys are ridiculous. Bark at him for trying to sneak in, and bark at him for his dishonestly and "shady-ness" But then you turn around and say "Hey lets have beer gardens at a CAR event" Great idea. You might as well call it DUI-fest. If you want to drink and then drive away in your BMW do so that doesn't endanger the better thinking half of the population. Alcohol and auto's(even auto events) do not mix.

Could you please go away too?

The OP is a tool, this is obvious. I do have a logistics question, though... The Fairgrounds are publicly owned? So fees are paid to the state? Are you required to bring your own liability insurance, or otherwise purchase it through state sanctioned provider?

I guess I never thought about where the entry fee would go.... I assumed that after costs it was zero-sum. (keep in mind I went to med school because business was NOT a forte'). It is actually nice to know Jon sees a little sumthin for his (and others') efforts. It's not like we're gettin together in the parking lot at the mall....

Originally Posted by Buyse13

you're an asshole. The kid is uneducated as to what the unity shoppe is. So he is a punk for trying to sneak in and doing so successfully last year. Damn all you people seem to forget your teenage years. how many drive in movies did you sneak in to? How many stupid things have you done when you were in college? Get off your damn soap boxes. Im so tired of reading this stuff about "Kids are tearing apart the seams of society".

I did plenty of unsavory things when I was a teenager, but I didn't complain about the stuff I wasn't able to get away with to the people who were putting on the events.

If you pay enough attention, and read between the lines, you'll learn that a majority of the people here would say that the reason "Kids are tearing apart the seams of society" has far more to do with the lackadaisical attitude and absenteeism of parents than kids being inherently bad.

The OP has no right or room to bitch and complain about having to shell out $20 to get into the event. At least, not in the way he did. Try this on for size "Wow, I had a lot of fun, but $20 is a bit steep for me for just an entry fee. If I knew everything that was involved, I might feel differently though." would have received a VERY different response than the one he got. Besides, he drives and M3 - modded to some extent, I'd bet. His life can't suck that badly.

I am 18. iv been a member here since I was 16. You are being very ignorant as to what the problem here is. He is uneducated as to the cause and the purpose of the event. Yea the kid has a bit of an attitude, he is probably around 16 or 17, same age as I am practically. He is a peer to me. He has the same sort of "stick up his butt" as you would say that you probably had.

You guys are ridiculous. Bark at him for trying to sneak in, and bark at him for his dishonestly and "shady-ness" But then you turn around and say "Hey lets have beer gardens at a CAR event" Great idea. You might as well call it DUI-fest. If you want to drink and then drive away in your BMW do so that doesn't endanger the better thinking half of the population. Alcohol and auto's(even auto events) do not mix.

You're aware that there WAS alcohol served at the event, right? In two different places. Apparently you fit into the "uneducated" and "ignorant" ranks as well.

I guess you figure that people don't know when to stop drinking. I could probably say that at 18 *I* didn't know when to stop drinking.

What are your thoughts on egotistical, arrogant guys who have far more car than they really understand how to drive? That's just as deadly a combination

Originally Posted by Buyse13

you're an asshole.

.

Agreed.



I guess it would be more appropriate if Bimmerfest offered Day Care.

Originally Posted by Buyse13

you're an asshole. The kid is uneducated as to what the unity shoppe is. So he is a punk for trying to sneak in and doing so successfully last year. Damn all you people seem to forget your teenage years. how many drive in movies did you sneak in to? How many stupid things have you done when you were in college? Get off your damn soap boxes. Im so tired of reading this stuff about "Kids are tearing apart the seams of society".


I am 18. iv been a member here since I was 16. You are being very ignorant as to what the problem here is. He is uneducated as to the cause and the purpose of the event. Yea the kid has a bit of an attitude, he is probably around 16 or 17, same age as I am practically. He is a peer to me. He has the same sort of "stick up his butt" (as you would say) that you probably had when you were this age.


You guys are ridiculous. Bark at him for trying to sneak in, and bark at him for his dishonestly and "shady-ness" But then you turn around and say "Hey lets have beer gardens at a CAR event" Great idea. You might as well call it DUI-fest. If you want to drink and then drive away in your BMW do so that doesn't endanger the better thinking half of the population. Alcohol and auto's(even auto events) do not mix.


EDIT: Just back off the kid. He does not get it. Don't sit and flame him. Tell him whats up and let him be.

Apparently irony is lost on this young whippersnapper. Oh, well. Maybe when he gets to college he will read Jonathan Swift.

Originally Posted by Malibubimmer

Apparently irony is lost on this young whippersnapper. Oh, well. Maybe when he gets to college he will read Jonathan Swift.

Barber College maybe....

Originally Posted by Buyse13

you're an asshole. The kid is uneducated as to what the unity shoppe is. So he is a punk for trying to sneak in and doing so successfully last year. Damn all you people seem to forget your teenage years. how many drive in movies did you sneak in to? How many stupid things have you done when you were in college? Get off your damn soap boxes. Im so tired of reading this stuff about "Kids are tearing apart the seams of society".


I am 18. iv been a member here since I was 16. You are being very ignorant as to what the problem here is. He is uneducated as to the cause and the purpose of the event. Yea the kid has a bit of an attitude, he is probably around 16 or 17, same age as I am practically. He is a peer to me. He has the same sort of "stick up his butt" (as you would say) that you probably had when you were this age.


You guys are ridiculous. Bark at him for trying to sneak in, and bark at him for his dishonestly and "shady-ness" But then you turn around and say "Hey lets have beer gardens at a CAR event" Great idea. You might as well call it DUI-fest. If you want to drink and then drive away in your BMW do so that doesn't endanger the better thinking half of the population. Alcohol and auto's(even auto events) do not mix.


EDIT: Just back off the kid. He does not get it. Don't sit and flame him. Tell him whats up and let him be.

The original poster is an idiot, and so are you. You really have no clue as to how immature you sound. And I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.

Go away.

Originally Posted by lucky579

I came late last year and squeezed through the back gate, but this year there were people at both gates.

$20??? for 1600 cars is $32,000 where is that money going? I heard if you bought raffle tickets that money was going to the low income people in Santa Barbara which is ironic since SB is one of the most expensive places to live in the nation so I didn't even stick around for the raffle. With all the raffle tickets too, I bet there was a gross income of over $50,000.

Last time I checked at fairs and stuff the food places had to rent out a spot to have their food booth, I'm thinking that the vendors pay to have a spot too, and the only cost would be the Bimmerfest personnel $10/hr probably 10 of them for a total of 10 hrs, that's only $1000. And the cost to rent out the fairgrounds can't be over $10000.

I don't work hard so that poor people can work less and receive free money.

This might be the last year I support this event.

Originally Posted by ffej

I don't know why you're all piling on the OP. I mean, $20 is outrageous. I'm sure Jon pocketed all of it.

And while we're complaining about stuff, why does it cost $150 a night to stay at the Ramada? I'm sure that the room cost at their end is only about $50 a night.

And why is food so expensive in restaurants? Hell, I can eat out of a garbage can for free.

Seriously, dude. I cannot believe you actually pulled those figures out of your azz and started a complaint thread with your first post. Lemme guess. You're the kind of guy who would bitch about $120 floor mats on a $65,000 car.

Weaksauce. The weakest.

Originally Posted by lucky579

so what are the expenses?

what are your expenses? would you like to give your personal expenses to us???

Originally Posted by ZeroG

I understand what you guys are all saying about compensation. There is a difference between profit and flat out ripping people off. I am not saying that I agree with what lucky was saying, I am just saying that there might be some truth to his statement.

I mean... Jon himself said that over 5K people attended the event. We'll say half of them brought cars and paid the $20 fee. So the event made $50K in cash on admission alone minimum. Now we're not even including vendor fees that they made money on etc...

I think we could have donated a little more then $6500 to the worth while charity...

Originally Posted by tommydogsdad

Could you please go away too?

Originally Posted by beewang

To the OP

I have the following sign in my car, you may not like: Its an oldie but a goodie...

A$$, GAS or GRA$$.... NOBODY RIDES FREE!!!

Originally Posted by Malibubimmer

Crawl back into your slimy little hole, twerp. You aren't going to be doing the accounting for the event.

Originally Posted by LuvThatSam

what are your expenses? would you like to give your personal expenses to us???

If 1600 people gave me $20 and one was curious as to how the money was being spent I would provide it. Think about businesses, if you say this is Jon's job then I suppose this is his business and if we are contributing, or "compensating" for his hard work then that in a way makes us like shareholders in which we are entitled to the financial information.

So if Jon needs to be compensated for this event, why are we donating money to charity? You don't get rich throwing your money away. Maybe I'm an asshole but I would never give money to the poor/charity. I believe in natural selection and the fittest with survive.
Why not lower the price to $10 and not donate to charity.

Originally Posted by Buyse13

Snip...

EDIT: Just back off the kid. He does not get it. Don't sit and flame him. Tell him whats up and let him be.

What the hell do you think they are doing?

Originally Posted by misterlance

Motion to apply a minimum age to Bimmerfest and to include a beer garden.

SECONDED.

YES.