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Old 04-01-2008, 08:31 AM
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M3 e46 or 335i

which is faster and which would u guys rather have?
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:35 PM
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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which is faster and which would u guys rather have?
uhh no question M3...i had 3 ppl in the car he got the jump and i stayed with him the whole time inched on him...also without just myself i beat one not by much but i still beat him...not to mention the first turn comes and the 335i is bye bye...PLUS its an M3 PLUS just look at everything on an e46 m3 vs a 335i...no question IMO...handling,looks and price isnt too bad for an m3...if you want a smooth ride and a nice nav screen get a 335i if you want pure race bred M power its m3 all the way
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:16 AM
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A 335 with the M package. Then if you want to go faster turn up the boost.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:27 PM
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A 335 with the M package. Then if you want to go faster turn up the boost.
a 3 series with the "m package" is total wannabe...i would never try to be something that im not even close to being..IMO thats the worst thing bmw has done it making 3 and 1 series and offering the "m package" if you turn the boost up then it will kill the life of that car..maybe just get a bigger turbo...if you want a M car then get an M car not a wannabe 3 series...sorry 335i fans
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:59 AM
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Ah, there are so many threads already like this dude anyways me personal views.
335i
- Comfort
- Easy to tune (cheap)
- Better on fuel
- Newer curves
- Easy to drive

M3
- Not comfortable (feels like a race car)
- Better Sounding (NA I6 at 8000rpms sounds awesome)
- M factor (attention to detail)
- Stock for Stock M3 is faster
- M3 gets an 8 on the fun factor, 335i gets a 5.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:47 PM
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Ah, there are so many threads already like this dude anyways me personal views.
335i
- Comfort
- Easy to tune (cheap)
- Better on fuel
- Newer curves
- Easy to drive

M3
- Not comfortable (feels like a race car)
- Better Sounding (NA I6 at 8000rpms sounds awesome)
- M factor (attention to detail)
- Stock for Stock M3 is faster
- M3 gets an 8 on the fun factor, 335i gets a 5.
=+1

A regular 3 series will never be an "M" car. Don't even try to compare the two. As fast as the 335 maybe, at the end of the day, it will just be a 335 with no "M" credentials. As tight as my M3 is, I still prefer the ride and the "M" factor that it delivers.

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Old 04-09-2008, 05:00 AM
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335 is better.....

I have a 335 sedan with 6spd manual, sport and prem , and I have an '04 M3 vert for weekends, fun etc.......the M3 is fun to drive, but other than that the 335 will chew it up and spit it out in everyway...the feel and sound of those turbos is unreal....D7
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:45 AM
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I have a 335 sedan with 6spd manual, sport and prem , and I have an '04 M3 vert for weekends, fun etc.......the M3 is fun to drive, but other than that the 335 will chew it up and spit it out in everyway...the feel and sound of those turbos is unreal....D7
The sound of the turbos? You can actually hear them?
I have both as well, My 335 is slower than my M3 but yours is a vert that may be why.
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:18 PM
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I have a 335 sedan with 6spd manual, sport and prem , and I have an '04 M3 vert for weekends, fun etc.......the M3 is fun to drive, but other than that the 335 will chew it up and spit it out in everyway...the feel and sound of those turbos is unreal....D7
HAHAHAHAH that made my day...good laugh..im sure you can hear those turbos buddy cause everytime i smoke one i dont hear turbos all i hear is the sound on my s54 revving at 7900rpms!..im sorry im sure you love your new 335 but dont say things like it will chew an M3 up you 335 guys can maybe argue with the fact it can somewhat keep up in a straight line but that comment really pushed it...cause on a track you will get smoked bad..but hey atleast you can have a nice comfy car to wait in while the tow truck comes to take you off the track
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Old 04-09-2008, 03:26 PM
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Hi guys - first post - haven't posted in the 'Newbies' forum yet because I don't have a picture of my ride but will later today - just joined the M family with a gorgeous carbon black 2004 M3 coupe SMG w/premium and 19s (just joined the Bimmer family too... nice upgrade from my Honda Civic - I just graduated and started working though, so I'm excused.) ... I wasn't going to post at all and just sit and read for a while until I got 'warmed up' but man, whats up with the M3 bashing in the M3 section of the forum? I don't have both, but I definitely have friends who have the 335, both coupe and sedan, and we're definitely faster than them both off of a light, around turns and even on the freeway; albeit on the freeway the lighter coupe does sometimes give us Ms a run for our money. Still, I'm really happy with my M; nothing like the sixth bar with DSC off/Sport on blasting off of a red light.

Speaking of blasting off of red lights, I pulled up to a Gallardo in Anaheim Hills here in So Cal (street called Weir Canyon, the locals know of it) at a light and I'm proud to say that off of the light I didn't only keep up with the Gallardo but inched away for a second (up until second gear) before the Gallardo took off... still, I wasn't more than a couple car lengths away until the next light. Good return on this $40k investment against that $130k!

Anyway, really excited to be a part of this family, I definitely hope to meet some fellow M people soon (there's two carbon black premium package coupe M3s in my apartment complex, weird) - will definitely be posting more often... especially when I'm at work as I am now!
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:07 PM
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Ah, there are so many threads already like this dude anyways me personal views.
335i
- Comfort
- Easy to tune (cheap)
- Better on fuel
- Newer curves
- Easy to drive

M3
- Not comfortable (feels like a race car)
- Better Sounding (NA I6 at 8000rpms sounds awesome)
- M factor (attention to detail)
- Stock for Stock M3 is faster
- M3 gets an 8 on the fun factor, 335i gets a 5.

I completely agreed. I have both and I love driving the 335i for its comfort and well balance suspension and power. Don't get me wrong, I love my M3 and it's my DD, but I do look forward on weekend to drive my wife's E90TT. Which one would I keep?? M3 hands down of course...
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Old 06-08-2008, 07:34 PM
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Ah, there are so many threads already like this dude anyways me personal views.
335i
- Comfort
- Easy to tune (cheap)
- Better on fuel
- Newer curves
- Easy to drive

M3
- Not comfortable (feels like a race car)
- Better Sounding (NA I6 at 8000rpms sounds awesome)
- M factor (attention to detail)
- Stock for Stock M3 is faster
- M3 gets an 8 on the fun factor, 335i gets a 5.
I recently did European Delivery of a friend's 335xci coupe, I used to own a 330Ci convertible, and currently traded my 2006 X3 for a friend's M3 convertible for a week. So, I've driven both the E46 M3 and the 335 for several days each. The summary above nails it. The 335 is newer, easier to drive, comfortable, etc. The M3 is raw, exciting, in your face, and classic. The seats alone are worth it!
The only piece this post missed is maintenance costs. A brake job, for example, is significantly more on the M3 than on a 335. But as a single guy, I'd go for the M3 in a second. If I had a family, the 335.

Hope that helps!
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:37 AM
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Just wondering if anyone prefers the E36 M3 over the E46 M3 for the same differences you are citing between the E46 M3 and the E9x 335? It seems like the older car is the more pure car until enough time goes by and it is just the older car. Would anyone take an E30 M3 over the E46 M3?

I have an E36 M3 and an E46 330i so I can't give you a good comparison to the E46 M3, but it seems like a very similar story (more comfort, more weight, better ride, more toys).

So to put it back to the OP's question, some people prefer newer cars period- can't fix that. Some people prefer the current reigning champ of M, but that is subject to change. M3 FTW!!!

Also, to the earlier point, I have had several sleeper turbo cars and I drove them like a complete jerk. It was "look how fast this stupid car is!!" all day long. You don't need to do that in the real deal.
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:29 AM
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A friend brings his 335i to the track, and he is very fast. (I have an M3, btw). They're both great cars, both very nice at the track or on the road. IMO, they are pretty similar on the track given similar intermediate-level drivers.

It would be nice to have a warranty, which implies the 335. And if you are a modder, then the 335 wins hands-down. It's almost impossible to add power to an e46 M3, but with just a few $thousand, you can add 50+ HP to a 335 just with a chip. Add some track rims and tires and some minor suspension mods and you will kick the m3's a$$ around the track.

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Old 04-03-2008, 07:39 AM
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M3 of coz... exceptional handling and performance..
see if you can get a 2006 model with competition package
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:19 AM
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the c6 vette is also nice.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:29 AM
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the c6 vette is also nice.
agreed..but i still love my M3
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I was given a 335I as a loaner. It was a fast car, but very doll and boring. It wasn't a car that I would wake up on Saturday and Sundays and just say, I'm going to go randomly drive it.

Also when I was commuting to work, I always felt like I had to prove something to someone. I had to prove to people that the 335I was fast, so I was constantly driving like a maniac getting people's attention. Always looking to see if other cars were looking at it. (Rice Mode Activated). At the end of the day, it was just another 3 series within the many new ones on the road.

When I got my M3 back, that was no longer the case. Wouldn't want the 335I even if it had 500HP. I think this is why a lot of 335I are on the market for sale. The first a few weeks, the owners love the raw power. After a while, due to dispassionate connectivity of the car to the road, it just doesn't seem as exciting.
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Old 04-11-2008, 08:43 PM
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I was given a 335I as a loaner. It was a fast car, but very doll and boring. It wasn't a car that I would wake up on Saturday and Sundays and just say, I'm going to go randomly drive it.

Also when I was commuting to work, I always felt like I had to prove something to someone. I had to prove to people that the 335I was fast, so I was constantly driving like a maniac getting people's attention. Always looking to see if other cars were looking at it. (Rice Mode Activated). At the end of the day, it was just another 3 series within the many new ones on the road.

When I got my M3 back, that was no longer the case. Wouldn't want the 335I even if it had 500HP. I think this is why a lot of 335I are on the market for sale. The first a few weeks, the owners love the raw power. After a while, due to dispassionate connectivity of the car to the road, it just doesn't seem as exciting.
well said,VERY well said...M3 all the way..you really made a good point about having to prove something with the 335...nicely said again that was right on the dot there
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:09 AM
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I was given a 335I as a loaner. It was a fast car, but very doll and boring. It wasn't a car that I would wake up on Saturday and Sundays and just say, I'm going to go randomly drive it.

Also when I was commuting to work, I always felt like I had to prove something to someone. I had to prove to people that the 335I was fast, so I was constantly driving like a maniac getting people's attention. Always looking to see if other cars were looking at it. (Rice Mode Activated). At the end of the day, it was just another 3 series within the many new ones on the road.

When I got my M3 back, that was no longer the case. Wouldn't want the 335I even if it had 500HP. I think this is why a lot of 335I are on the market for sale. The first a few weeks, the owners love the raw power. After a while, due to dispassionate connectivity of the car to the road, it just doesn't seem as exciting.
I agree with your statement about driving faster with the 335i to show people "Hey, look at me I'm fast!!! Freshman Syndrome

But with the M3 it's more like "Wow, its an M3 that's a fast car!!!" Seniors Rules
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:04 AM
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Thanks!

The simple fact is that more heads turn when you're in the M - I'd be looking too, if I had quad exhausts staring me in the face!

I'm glad to report that my E46 is faster off the line than the new Lexus ISF (the roided out IS with the stacked exhausts, sup with that?) - this guy in his brand new, out of the dealership, $60k ISF (nice wheels though) pulled up to the light with his chick and HIMSELF opted to rev his engine and I gladly responded - and of course, SMGizzed him to shame. His face at the next light was one of utter disappointment and resentment - he just bought the car and it already lost to the 'old model' M3!

... and I hadn't even turned DSC off.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:28 AM
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... and I hadn't even turned DSC off.
Haha...that sucks for him...nice kill!
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I was given a 335I as a loaner. It was a fast car, but very doll and boring. It wasn't a car that I would wake up on Saturday and Sundays and just say, I'm going to go randomly drive it.

Also when I was commuting to work, I always felt like I had to prove something to someone. I had to prove to people that the 335I was fast, so I was constantly driving like a maniac getting people's attention. Always looking to see if other cars were looking at it. (Rice Mode Activated). At the end of the day, it was just another 3 series within the many new ones on the road.

When I got my M3 back, that was no longer the case. Wouldn't want the 335I even if it had 500HP. I think this is why a lot of 335I are on the market for sale. The first a few weeks, the owners love the raw power. After a while, due to dispassionate connectivity of the car to the road, it just doesn't seem as exciting.
You definitely hit the nail on the head when you say "It wasn't a car that I would wake up on Saturday and Sundays and just say, I'm going to go randomly drive it." I agree 100% the 335 just doesn't have that "race car" feel that the M3 has and it doesn't feel special that way. One thing though is when comparing the two cars I actually feel the opposite, that I drive the 335 slower. The M3 would just ask me to push it faster through the corners because it felt like it was meant to do that. Also the glorious intoxicating sound and feel of the engine as the tach swept past 5K rpms. I definitely drove the M3 faster. Not racing with other drivers and not in an abusive way but simply enjoying the car the way it was meant to be enjoyed (as much as you can on public roads anyway). The 335i is more of a cruiser, IMO. It gets you were you need to go in a relaxed manner and for that reason I find myself driving it as more of a fantastic DD then a sports car.
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Old 04-29-2008, 02:01 PM
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All I have to say is "M". Do you see any M in a 335i? We're a distinctive breed, recognized and respectfully "awwwwwed" wherever and whenever we go. Even on the turns, my M3 will blow and hug the road much better than a CL500. Been there, done that.
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