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Old 05-08-2009, 12:47 PM
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Looking to hear from you about your deal....I'm ordering a 750i Sport for ED late August...Would like to know what kind of deals you've experienced, Thanks
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:19 PM
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I recommend asking on the European Delivery forum since you're doing ED. Also don't sweat the $$$ as much - $500 here or there on a $100K car is only 0.5%. Instead, focus on service and competency of your CA and dealer IMO.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:21 AM
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I picked up my 750 Li at the Welt in late April. I "think" the deal was ok, considering dealers rarely discount new models. MSRP was about 97k. Got it with European Delivery for 88k (Northern California dealer from whom I've purchased cars in the past). The E/D experience was great. Didn't really drive the car around (I've done that before). But the Welt, the factory tour and the BMW Museum were all spectacular, as was Munich. Great city; amazing beer and beer gardens!
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:25 PM
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New 750i with engine malfunction

I have a new 750i (Sports package, virtually all options, black) with 600 miles and an engine malfunction warning and a badly missing engine. I have followed the EMF warnings here and will post as to my experience. My previous car was a CL55, and the comparisons between the two are interesting (to me): CL more torquey, raw; 750 more technical, better features, and more comfortable. With this failure (just an inconvenience, but annoying with less than 1K), I realize that I like, but do not love, the car.

Dealer here is strong (Grayson), and I have a good relationship with them through employee purchases and a prior 740. I will post fix details as they occur.

This forum has been helpful to me in research; thank you all.
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Old 05-28-2009, 05:08 PM
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i hate that you can't fast forward through a multimedia from your steering wheel !!!!!!
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Old 06-06-2009, 04:27 AM
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Computer reset

The issue was perhaps solved with a hard, power-off computer reboot. I have another thousand miles on the car and it is fine, although it still makes me think the underlying issue (software?) may still be out there.
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Old 06-18-2009, 10:24 AM
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i am getting 750li ED in july. MSRP a little over 99k, got it for 88k..
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Old 06-18-2009, 01:12 PM
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ED in August on a 750Li with every option. MSRP was $113k, got it for $100k.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:40 AM
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every option including night vision for $100k?

I assume $100k is without tax and all the other fees and stuff that comes with financing or leasing, right?
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:28 AM
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every option including night vision for $100k?

I assume $100k is without tax and all the other fees and stuff that comes with financing or leasing, right?
Every option:
Black Sapphire Metallic
Black Nappa Leather
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Camera Package
Convenience Package
Driver Assistance Package
Luxury Rear Seating Package
Luxury Seating Package
Premium Sound Package
Rear Entertainment Package
Sport Package
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Head-up Display
Instrument panel with leather finish
Massaging rear seat
Smartphone Integration
Satellite radio with 1 year subscription
Night Vision with Pedestrian Detection

with the Gas Guzzler tax it's actually $100,890. (MSRP was $114,050) That does not include sales tax or any other misc. doc fees, etc.

Edit: It was $100,890, not $101,890. Sorry.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:26 PM
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A dealership is offering me 09 750 Li ED with every option except for night vision for $99,705 (MSRP $111,420). Compare to your deal i don't think i'm getting a good deal, am i? How do i bargain for lower price or if i'm leasing how do i get a good deal with low monthly payment.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:40 PM
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This is how my deal breaks down:

Base European Delivery MSRP $72,040
Camera Package $685
Convenience Package $1,545
Driver Assistance Package $1,230
Luxury Rear Seating Package $3,185
Luxury Seating Package $2,275
Premium Sound Package $1,820
Rear Entertainment Package $2,000
Sport Package $4,460
Active Cruise Control $2,135
Ceramic Controls $590
Head-up Display $1,090
Instrument panel with leather finish $1,090
Massaging rear seat $180
Smartphone Integration $135
Satellite radio with 1 year sub. $540
Night Vision with Pedestrian Detection $2,365
Destination & Handling $825
Gas Guzzler Tax $1000
Dealer Profit $1700
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Total Cost $100,890

These are all simply invoice prices + the dealer profit as stated. Theoretically you can do better since most members suggest you should only need to pay between $500- $1000 to the dealer, vs. my $1700.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:43 PM
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A dealership is offering me 09 750 Li ED with every option except for night vision for $99,705 (MSRP $111,420).
My math shows they are trying to make exactly $2925 off the deal. Try to get them lower.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:31 AM
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Hayden,

That's what i thought too. I've requested for the price drop so i'm waiting to hear from the dealership. Will let you know what they say.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:46 PM
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WOW! That's a lot of useful information you've given me. I had no clue about any of these stuff. No wonder I got screwed big time on my first and current lease.

I was just asked to come in and sign the PO and stuff. Is the PO different from the lease agreement?
Can I sign the PO now and then the lease agreement later?
I heard I can wait atleast two weeks prior to the delivery date before I sign the lease. Does that hold water or the dealership can insist I close everything now?

Thanks a bunch for all the information you have given me. I feel so empowered and educated now you have no idea.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:54 PM
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I was just asked to come in and sign the PO and stuff. Is the PO different from the lease agreement?
The PO is just the European Delivery "Purchase Order". It is not the purchase agreement and has no pricing information on it. It simply verifies your car, color, options and pick-up date. You will need to sign that soon, and provide a deposit of between $500 - $1000.

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Can I sign the PO now and then the lease agreement later? I heard I can wait atleast two weeks prior to the delivery date before I sign the lease. Does that hold water or the dealership can insist I close everything now?
You don't want to sign the lease paperwork now, because that will start your lease now. Two weeks is ok, but I will be going in 7 days prior to pickup to sign the paperwork. That means I will be paying my lease for 7 days before I even have the car. (In addition to the weeks waiting for it to arrive back from Europe... although BMW will make 1 payment on your behalf) However, I do suggest you get your final settled pricing and figures in writing. That way you wont have to worry about anything changing between now and then.

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Thanks a bunch for all the information you have given me. I feel so empowered and educated now you have no idea.
Happy to help. Check out the European Delivery forum and wiki. They provide lots of great information.
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Thanks. The ED forum has a lot information that i'm adding to my arsenal. I have a feeling my second lease is gonna be much better than my first lease thanks to you.
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In preparation for my lease i've done my homework and computed some figures that i expect to see or close to it on my final lease. I'm open for any suggestions as to where i should be a little flexible, where to watchout for dealership mathetical tricks or where to save some money. I'm thinking about doing MSD but i heard it maybe hard to get it back at lease end.
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:46 AM
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I prefer this site:
http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm

My 36 month lease (12k mi. per year) is approx. $1550/mo. before tax. That is based on a total of $4000 drive away costs.

If you were to also do $4000 drive-away (inc. all fees), with 10k mi. per year, I calculate your lease would be approx. $1495/mo. before tax.
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Ok. I'll recalculate based on $4k drive-away cost and compare. I'll also use the leaseguide calculator and see how that comes up.
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:35 PM
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Jet Black/Black/Ash Grain
Sport Pack
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Leather Instrument Panel
Sat Radio

$1000 Gas Guzzler

MSRP: $97,720

Negotiated MSRP: $94,000

36 Month Lease
12k per year
46% Residual
0.0009% MF

Monthly Payment: $1593.47

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Old 07-23-2009, 08:08 PM
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Monthly Payment: $1593.47
including tax?

what was the total drive-off amount?
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yes including tax. total drive off is something like $3800. i havent taken delivery yet so i dont remember what my SA told me.
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yes including tax. total drive off is something like $3800. i havent taken delivery yet so i dont remember what my SA told me.
Why is your service advisor involved in the transaction?
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Why is your service advisor involved in the transaction?
I'm pretty sure he meant CA, but probably thinking "Sales Associate", or "Sales Advisor", etc...
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