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Old 10-24-2009, 09:53 PM
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The official PPXWY thread.

Here, I created this thread just for you, so you can feel free and complain all you want here and don't ruin other threads!

Take it away.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:04 PM
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X3-terr... good call! Love it... I hope he or she (PP) enjoys the freedom to b*tch, b*tch, b*tch!! and no one has to click on the thread or read it.
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Old 10-24-2009, 11:45 PM
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But just in case anyone is reading this,

I find it interesting that the same phenomena happens for other makes of cars on other forums.

Not to the same extent, but the pattern is the same:
- buyer of new car finds not everything is to their expectation
- seem to have more than their fair share of bugs, delivery faults, etc.
- their dealer does not appear to be willing or able to fix them

Here is a sample from a forum relating to a well-known Japanese brand.
The OP lists 7 problems, or perceived problems, with his car.
As the OP is not as eloquent as PPPXYZ, I felt the need to edit out needless bad language, etc., so am safe in reproducing it here without attribution or permission.

I really hate this car. The only thing i like about the car is the panoramic side view of it. But other than that they can have it back.

This car is garbage and because of it i will never buy another #*#*#* again. Sorry guys. PEACE!


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- Sounds like you just got a bad car. I have never had any of these problems.

- Ride one on out then. Looks like someone did not do enough research, bought a car only in production a little over a year and expected no issues?
Did you even test drive it to see if you would like the way it handled and if the CVT was something you could live with?
Agreed that tire wear on the Bridgstone is rapid but grip and wet traction are acceptable. Tread wear of 320 should give a clue to how long they last.
PS. The car might be locking you out because it don't like the way you treat it.

- I don't see reason for half of your argument. Why would you put money in to something that you hate so much? Go trade it in for a new car dude..

- stop ranting and raving and get your stuff fixed

- should've done your research/test driven the car....

- I'm gonna toss you a bone and side with you on on some of your issues ......
from the sounds of the other points you probably got a lemon.
Regarding the CVT, I don't really care for mine either, I like the fuel efficiency it provides but really can't say I like anything else about it, but it's liveable

Sounds familiar? Maybe Dr. Phil should do a TV show on this phenomena, so he can guide people on how to best deal with the situation.
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Old 10-25-2009, 04:40 AM
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:36 AM
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Well, I hate the ride in my '06 X3 over rough roads too! No surprise here from faithful readers of this forum. I was bitterly dissapointed in the car after I bought it but realizing I had no one to blame but myself for not driving it over nasty roads I am living with it. The only reason I still have it is that the car has been bulletproof. Virtually no problems at all in almost 48K miles. I still hate the ride and when I do get another car you can bet I will take it over the bad bits first before I enjoy the smooth freeway driving. Thanks to X3t for creating this thread to allow us disaffected types a place to vent without hijacking some enthusiast's glowing testimonial.

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Old 10-25-2009, 08:00 AM
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PPXWY needs one of these threads for edmunds townhall, xoutpost, bimmerboards, etc -same rants over there

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Old 10-25-2009, 03:14 PM
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Schadenfreude and denial

It is really too bad that some people simply don't know what a really good car is like.

It is also interesting that those who get their back up because other people do not share their opinion of a car they have never even seen much less driven complain endlessly about posts they could simply ignore.

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:16 AM
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Sorry folks, but I have to speak out against this post.

As much as I disagree with some of PPXYZ's approach, I have to say this is beneath the caliber of this forum to single out a person this way.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:42 AM
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Sorry folks, but I have to speak out against this post.

As much as I disagree with some of PPXYZ's approach, I have to say this is beneath the caliber of this forum to single out a person this way.
+1

I also think it's not right to put someone in the corner. May be that's why X3t put PPX"W"Y as the thread title.

But, I gotta feeling (woo hoo) that PPXYZ is not from the U.S...

That would explain a lot of things. This is just pure speculation, no offense to anyone.

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Old 10-26-2009, 09:37 AM
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May be that's why X3t put PPX"W"Y as the thread title.



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Sorry folks, but I have to speak out against this post.

As much as I disagree with some of PPXYZ's approach, I have to say this is beneath the caliber of this forum to single out a person this way.


So some "new" member has the right to ruin the majority of the threads on the forum, but a fully contributing member has no right to try and do something about it? I don't understand.
Several folks, including you have tried to persuade him to stop, (on several threads) with no positive outcome.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:32 AM
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So some "new" member has the right to ruin the majority of the threads on the forum, but a fully contributing member has no right to try and do something about it? I don't understand.
Several folks, including you have tried to persuade him to stop, (on several threads) with no positive outcome.
I just don't think singling some one out like this is appropriate.

I agree that s/he has overstepped the boundaries of good ettiquette on several occasions, but that is for the moderator to decide. Nudge nudge.


We have a saying in my family, "Right Idea, Wrong Approach".
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:36 AM
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Hiding is good for what? Will that ever make a car better? Will that solve the problems?

This was the state of the American car industry in the last century. Head in sand.

Yes, that really helps.
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but that is for the moderator to decide. Nudge nudge.

ok, let's leave this one to a moderator as well...
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:31 PM
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Evl, you forgot "your not driving it enough" excuse. In truth this one is usually seen on the X5 board when complaining about a dead battery after parking at the airport for 3 days. Fess up a little here, I remember one of your first posts where there was a lot of "shouting". In fact, I responded with "you will catch more flies with honey than vinegar" as I recall. So everyone is entitled to a little venting IMHO.
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Evl, you forgot "your not driving it enough" excuse. In truth this one is usually seen on the X5 board when complaining about a dead battery after parking at the airport for 3 days. Fess up a little here, I remember one of your first posts where there was a lot of "shouting". In fact, I responded with "you will catch more flies with honey than vinegar" as I recall. So everyone is entitled to a little venting IMHO.
Agreed, and I like to think I took some good advice and learned to move things forward.

I will paraphrase: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

I found that the dealer would point the finger at BMWNA and BMWNA would in turn point back at the dealer. I literally was spinning my wheels.

The solution was a third party (aka lawyer, independent mechanic, etc..) and detailed documentation.

PPXWZ we have yet to hear that you have pursued this route.

Plan and simple: WHY NOT?
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time out

I saw this thread and frankly was surprised it hasnt been yanked. I certainly have been known to call BS when I thought someone was complaining too much or just being a pr1ck. But this thread really is an attack on an individual. That crosses a line in my mind. So although I have grown very tired of PP complaining about the same stuff over and over again, I just have gotten to the point where I ignore it. Hopefully PP will get the message that no one really wants to hear the same stuff ad nauseum, but I think this thread goes way overboard. Sorry.
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I saw this thread and frankly was surprised it hasnt been yanked. I certainly have been known to call BS when I thought someone was complaining too much or just being a pr1ck. But this thread really is an attack on an individual. That crosses a line in my mind. So although I have grown very tired of PP complaining about the same stuff over and over again, I just have gotten to the point where I ignore it. Hopefully PP will get the message that no one really wants to hear the same stuff ad nauseum, but I think this thread goes way overboard. Sorry.

Said that from the git go, but trying to put a positive spin on it.
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I know you did Evl and coming from you that is important given what you went thru with your transmission issues and the complaints you had. I just want to echo that while I think PPxyz abuses the forum a little with the constant rants and no particular ability to move things forward either in his posts or with his complaints, starting a thread just to single out this particular user is also inappropriate and ultimately diminishes us all. (did I really just say that?)
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Yes you did. Well said. .

But don't be so quick to let Evl off the hook.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:22 PM
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Yes you did. Well said. .

But don't be so quick to let Evl off the hook.
Hahahaha

Ah well. If you all just had killer stereos we would be ok.
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If you all just had killer stereos we would be ok.
I didn't think I needed one until I stretched its legs on the Autobahn a couple of days ago. You'll need every watt you can get to drown out all the noise when you're cruising at 110+mph.
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$10 says that PPXYZ is on pay rolls of Audi/MB/VW and just discrediting X3.
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Way to run with it PP...
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