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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 02-17-2010, 07:21 AM
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It would be interesting to post smog emission results for our E39s (for comparison)

It would be interesting to post state smog emission test results for our E39s (for comparison among us).

Who know what we'll learn from this ... I'll start.

Below are my emissions test results (long story here) on my 2002 E39.

What I learned is that it makes NO difference (for emissions tests) whether you use 87AKI or 91AKI California-specific fuel (actually, the 91AKI results are slightly worse but not statistically so).

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Old 02-17-2010, 07:28 PM
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I didn't think I had mine still, but I found it. This was done by the used car dealer I bought from. It was running on fumes when I bought it, and I'm betting it was 87 octane.

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ASM 2525 (40km/h)
Test Reading Limit
HC ppm 5 55
CO % 0.01 0.31
NO ppm 36 0408
RPM1769VALID
Dilution>14.61VALID














Curb Idle Tailpipe Emissions
Test Reading Limit
HC ppm 6 150
CO % 0.0 0.7
RPM731VALID
Dilution>14.70VALID
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Old 02-18-2010, 05:26 AM
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Interesting.

Comparing only what I can match:
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HYDROCARBONS:
at idle: bmw_n00b13: 6 ppm (limit = 150 ppm)
15mph: bluebee: 0 ppm (limit=52, avg=4)

25mph: bmw_n00b13: 5 ppm (limit = 55 ppm)
25mph: bluebee: 0 ppm (limit=36, avg=4)
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Carbon Monoxide:
at idle: bmw_n00b13: 0% (limit = 0.70%)
15mph: bluebee: 0% (limit = 0.49%)

25mph: bmw_n00b13: .01% (limit = 0.31%)
25mph: bluebee: 0% (limit = 0.46%)
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Nitrogen Oxides:
25mph: bmw_n00b13: 36 ppm (limit = 408 ppm)
25mph: bluebee: 25 ppm (limit=711, avg=18)
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PS: I don't know how to do tables but this belongs in a tabular format.

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Old 08-24-2010, 01:48 AM
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Looks like few have taken us up on the offer to collect emissions data on our E39s.

Here's a thread from today that comes from the UK.

Here's the combined data so far:
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- Canada (bmw_n00b13), 1999, 528iA
- Northern California (bluebee), 2002 525i, 87 AKI (just after rebuilding the ABS control module)
- Northern California (bluebee), 2002 525i, 91 AKI (after clearing P0500 code & driving for two weeks)
- Southern California (Gian), 2002 530i
- Southern California (bugratu), 1997 528i
- Southern California (bugratu), 1997 528i (after adding CRC "Guaranteed to Pass Smog Test", plugs, engine air filter)
- Southern California (+moulin), 2002 530i 5-spd 105K
- UK (dunk1127), year? 540i
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HYDROCARBONS:
- at idle: bmw_n00b13: 6 ppm (limit = 150 ppm) PASS
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0 ppm (limit = 52 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 9 ppm (limit = 52 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 1 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 58 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 9 ppm) FAIL
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 90 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 9 ppm) FAIL
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 0 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- fast idle: dunk1127: 42 (limit = 200 ppm), PASS

- 25mph: bmw_n00b13: 5 ppm (limit = 55 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0 ppm (limit = 36 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 2 ppm (limit = 36 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 1 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 34 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 7 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 35 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 7 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 0 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- 2nd fast idle: dunk1127: 83 ppm, PASS
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Carbon Monoxide:
- at idle: bmw_n00b13: 0% (limit = 0.70%), PASS
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.00% (limit = 0.49%, avg = 0.01%), 87AKI, PASS
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 0.01% (limit = 0.49%, avg = 0.01%), 97AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 0.01% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 0.14% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.02%), PASS
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 0.28% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.02%), PASS
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 0.00% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- at idle: dunk1127: 0.468%, FAIL

- 25mph: bmw_n00b13: .01% (limit = 0.31%), PASS
- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.00% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), 87AKI, PASS
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 0.01% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), 97AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 0.01% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 0.14% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.03%), PASS
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 0.07% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.03%), PASS
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 0.00% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- fast idle: dunk1127: 0.627% (limit = 0.200%) FAIL (2nd fast idle: dunk1127: 0.467%.... another FAIL)
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Carbon Dioxide:
- at idle: bmw_n00b13: ?
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 15.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 15.1% (no limit provided), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI)
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 14.9% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 14.88% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 14.4% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 15.0% (no limit provided)
- at idle: dunk1127: ?

- 25mph: bmw_n00b13: ?
- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 15.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 15.1% (no limit provided), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI)
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 14.9% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 14.90% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 14.5% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 15.0% (no limit provided)
- fast idle: dunk1127: ?
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Nitrogen Oxides:
- 15 mph: bmw_n00b13: untested
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 21 ppm (limit = 424 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 53 ppm (limit = 424 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 14 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 354 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 57 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 161 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 57 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 3 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), PASS
- idle: dunk1127: not tested

- 25mph: bmw_n00b13: 36 ppm (limit = 408 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 25 ppm (limit = 711 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 63 ppm (limit = 711 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 1 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 72 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 50 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 0 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 50 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 5 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), PASS
- fast idle: dunk1127: not tested
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Oxygen:
- at idle: bmw_n00b13: no number provided
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 91AKI
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 0.03% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- fast idle: dunk1127: 1.028% (limit = 1.030%), PASS

- 25mph: bmw_n00b13: no number provided
- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 91AKI
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 0.02% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 2nd fast idle: dunk1127: lambda.. 1.040% (limit = 1.030%), PASS
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Note: This list will be updated with new data coming in below for as long as the forum will allow us.

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Old 09-14-2010, 05:18 AM
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It's too bad not many people have posted their smog results as we can learn from the HUGE differences between them (as shown with just 3 results above).

Anyway, California is pretty lenient when it comes to vehicle inspections (compared to places I've lived in the past).

Here's the California pseudo-3-part inspection procedure described.
- How to Pass the California Emissions Test. 3-Part Test

FYI, where I live, the bay area, is an "enhanced smog" area so our cars are driven on a dynamometer while being tested.
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Wolfman, YES. Check engine light will almost always fail an emissions test.
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Wolfman, YES. Check engine light will almost always fail an emissions test.
Check light will always fail the test, unless you know a shop to pay to overlook it.
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Yes. They fail you if you have ABS malfunctioning (don't ask me how that's related to smog). However there's usually a provision limiting how much you can spend to repair the problem. Look into it.

Bluebee, perhaps the test looks odd because it's not an official inspection?
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:38 AM
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To wolfman, not only will a SES light (almost?) always fail you (certainly in California), but notice the very first post where there was no check engine light but there was a fault code of P0500 wheel speed sensor - and the vehicle failed. (Note: Even though it says the MIL was lit, it most definitely was not; when I asked, they told me that MIL trigger in the CA smog test goes on for every fault code registered - whether or not your car registers it as a visible SES.)

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don't ask me how that's related to smog
Yup. I agree. When I asked how a P0500 wheel speed sensor malfunction (which I knew to be a red herring because I had tested the sensors), they told me at the inspection station that you fail in CA for any fault code whatsoever. I find that hard to believe - but certainly you'll fail for a P0500 because I did. I passed simply by clearing the code and driving the car a few miles. Cost me two inspection fees for that learning privilege.

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perhaps the test looks odd because it's not an official inspection?
Yea. I see that. They didn't do the 'standard' California test, apparently.
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Today, Ågent99 had to replace his DISA valve because he failed California smog with lean error codes. So I added his before & after results (he lives right next to me so our numbers & environmental part of the test on the dyno should be similar).
- System Too Lean Error Codes and Others

Here's the combined E39 smog data so far
(Note all California tests are with the rear wheels on a dynomometer):
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- Northern California (bluebee), 2002 525i, 87 AKI (just after rebuilding the ABS control module)
- Northern California (bluebee), 2002 525i, 91 AKI (after clearing P0500 code & driving for two weeks)
- Northern California (Ågent99), unknown E39 (before and after replacing DISA valve which caused failed smog tests)
- Southern California (Gian), 2002 530i
- Southern California (bugratu), 1997 528i
- Southern California (bugratu), 1997 528i (after adding CRC "Guaranteed to Pass Smog Test", plugs, engine air filter)
- Southern California (+moulin), 2002 530i 5-spd 105K
- Canada (bmw_n00b13), 1999, 528iA
- UK (dunk1127), year? 540i
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HYDROCARBONS:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0 ppm (limit = 52 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 9 ppm (limit = 52 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 13 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), Bad DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 3 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), New DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 1 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 58 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 9 ppm) FAIL
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 90 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 9 ppm) FAIL
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 0 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- at idle: bmw_n00b13: 6 ppm (limit = 150 ppm) PASS
- fast idle: dunk1127: 42 (limit = 200 ppm), PASS

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0 ppm (limit = 36 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 2 ppm (limit = 36 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 6 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), Bad DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 1 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), New DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 1 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 34 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 7 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 35 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 7 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 0 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- at idle: bmw_n00b13: 6 ppm (limit = 150 ppm) PASS
- 2nd fast idle: dunk1127: 83 ppm, PASS
--------------------------------------
Carbon Monoxide:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.00% (limit = 0.49%, avg = 0.01%), 87AKI, PASS
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 0.01% (limit = 0.49%, avg = 0.01%), 97AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 0.06% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), Bad DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 0.01% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), Bad DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 0.01% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 0.14% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.02%), PASS
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 0.28% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.02%), PASS
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 0.00% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- at idle: bmw_n00b13: 0% (limit = 0.70%), PASS
- at idle: dunk1127: 0.468%, FAIL

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.00% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), 87AKI, PASS
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 0.01% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), 97AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 0.01% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), Bad DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 0.02% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), New DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 0.01% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 0.14% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.03%), PASS
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 0.07% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.03%), PASS
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 0.00% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- 25mph: bmw_n00b13: .01% (limit = 0.31%), PASS
- fast idle: dunk1127: 0.627% (limit = 0.200%) FAIL (2nd fast idle: dunk1127: 0.467%.... another FAIL)
--------------------------------------
Nitrogen Oxides:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 21 ppm (limit = 424 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 53 ppm (limit = 424 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 4 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), Bad DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 22 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), New DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 14 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 354 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 57 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 161 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 57 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 3 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), PASS
- 15 mph: bmw_n00b13: untested
- idle: dunk1127: not tested

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 25 ppm (limit = 711 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 63 ppm (limit = 711 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 21 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), Bad DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 108 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), New DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 1 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 72 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 50 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 0 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 50 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 5 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), PASS
- 25mph: bmw_n00b13: 36 ppm (limit = 408 ppm), PASS
- fast idle: dunk1127: not tested
--------------------------------------
Carbon Dioxide:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 15.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 15.1% (no limit provided), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI)
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 15.2% (no limit provided), Bad DISA
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 15.3% (no limit provided), New DISA
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 14.9% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 14.88% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 14.4% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 15.0% (no limit provided)
- at idle: bmw_n00b13: ?
- at idle: dunk1127: ?

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 15.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 15.1% (no limit provided), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI)
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 15.3% (no limit provided), Bad DISA
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 15.1% (no limit provided), New DISA
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 14.9% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 14.90% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 14.5% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 15.0% (no limit provided)
- 25mph: bmw_n00b13: ?
- fast idle: dunk1127: ?
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Oxygen:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 91AKI
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 0.0% (no limit provided), Bad DISA
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 0.0% (no limit provided), New DISA
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 0.03% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- at idle: bmw_n00b13: no number provided
- fast idle: dunk1127: 1.028% (limit = 1.030%), PASS

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 91AKI
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 0.0% (no limit provided), Bad DISA
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 0.3% (no limit provided), New DISA
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 0.02% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 25mph: bmw_n00b13: no number provided
- 2nd fast idle: dunk1127: lambda.. 1.040% (limit = 1.030%), PASS
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Note: This list will be updated with new data for as long as the forum will allow us.


It's interesting the effect the new DISA had on Ågent99's results:
- Hydrocarbons went down by more than a quarter!
- Carbon monoxide went down (for the most part)
- Nitrogen oxides went up (way up) by something like 500%
- C02 & oxygen remain unchanged

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What's a DISA valve ??
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Hmmmmm... Are you asking tongue-in-cheek 'cuz it's DISA (without the valve) or are you seriously asking what is the thing? I don't know. I'll assume the latter (although I'm open to a correction in terminology anytime, like maybe it's a "DISA flap" but I think Agent99's thread called it a "DISA valve" (I'd have to doublecheck)).

According to the E39 acronyms ********
- BMW E39 glossary of terms, abbreviations, acronyms, slang, and oft-used brand names

The word "DISA" stands for:
DISA = DIfferenzierte SAuganlage - "Differential Air Intake"

And, according to a recent update to that thread (post #68):

... the DISA valve does not change the length of the intake system on the six-cylinder engines from the M52TU onwards - its function is to be open at low speeds, so feeding all six intake pipes together. At mid-range speeds it closes, separating the front and rear groups of three cylinders from each other. At higher speeds it opens again, joining the cylinder groups together. It therefore acts like a massive balance pipe which can be closed when required. The effect of this is to give more mid-range torque without interfering with bottom and top-end torque

Just for the record, here's a thread where the DISA valve disintegration is a bad thing (as it ruined an engine!).

Here's what the best links has as references:
- DISA VALVE FLAP BREAKS: the DIfferenzierte SAuganlage ("Differential Air Intake") valve flap breaks (1), sometimes with parts sucked into the intake manifold (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) or the disa valve o-ring fails (1) (2) & where to get just the DISA valve o-ring (1) & when the DISA valve flap closes (1) (2) & an example of how this can ruin your engine (1) & how to test DISA operation (1)

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Thanks. Yes serious. I just needed a short answer to understand. Still, thank you.
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Found something in the TIS that may be of interest to the thread. I'm also looking for my latest figures... they're here somewhere!

BMW has released nominal emissions values for all their engines. It's on a CD, part number 01 59 0 030 372. Not sure if anyone can get that for us though.
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BMW has released nominal emissions values for all their engines.
Ooooooh. I'll bet that is interesting!

If anyone has access to the TIS, please post the relevant information so that we all learn from your efforts!
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It's not in the TIS, that's where I learned about the CD. I got excited for a bit though, seeing a bulletin on nominal emissions values.
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Here is my failed Texas Emissions and Safety Inspection report. This test was done on 2/8/2011. The codes had been cleared and car was in not ready state. Have to fix issues and return to have it reinspected and will post new inspection report once it passes.



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Here is my failed Texas Emissions and Safety Inspection report.
Thanks for posting that. One thing is very clear, each state is "vastly" different when it comes to emissions.

Looking forward to the PASS (as are we all).

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Attached is Inspection fail and pass printouts. We don't get the detailed emissions printout in Texas. It's mostly just pass or fail here.

To get it passed I replaced spark plugs(NGK 7602 single electrode platinum $2.99 each at Advanced auto. They work great), fuel filter, air filter, cleaned ICV valve and throttle body, repaired ICV air intake elbow with electrical tape(until new one arrives), cleaned DISA valve and area in intake where it seals and greased o-ring to give it a better seal(ending up replacing o-ring after inspections).

Then I had codes cleared and test drove 100+ miles and CEL stayed off. Took it back to inspector and it passed inspection and I got my sticker...finally! lol


This is the thread of the ongoing saga> http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=519362
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ohio results- by comparison- quite simplistic

Ohio echeck results to the letter

tampering-pass
On board diagnostics - fail
Evaporative system - pass
final result - fail

Tampering:
Catalytic converter - present
Presence of gas cap - present

Evaporative System: Pressurization of Gas cap - Reading 27.50 in H2O- limit 6.00 - pass

MIL Engine off - pass
MIL engine on - fail
DLC tampering - pass
Readiness status - pass
MIL cmd status - fail

TR Number: 1
DTC:
P0133 O2 sensor circuit slow response (Bank 1


Can anyone translate this for me and does it help me identify which sensor it is??

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It would be interesting to post state smog emission test results for our E39s (for comparison among us).

Who know what we'll learn from this ... I'll start.

Below are my emissions test results (long story here) on my 2002 E39.

What I learned is that it makes NO difference (for emissions tests) whether you use 87AKI or 91AKI California-specific fuel (actually, the 91AKI results are slightly worse but not statistically so).

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cause of air bag light to come on - bag never deployed - no accidents

has anyone experienced this phenomenon?

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Ohio echeck results to the letter

tampering-pass
On board diagnostics - fail
Evaporative system - pass
final result - fail

Tampering:
Catalytic converter - present
Presence of gas cap - present

Evaporative System: Pressurization of Gas cap - Reading 27.50 in H2O- limit 6.00 - pass

MIL Engine off - pass
MIL engine on - fail
DLC tampering - pass
Readiness status - pass
MIL cmd status - fail

TR Number: 1
DTC:
P0133 O2 sensor circuit slow response (Bank 1


Can anyone translate this for me and does it help me identify which sensor it is??

Thanks for your help
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The emissions test in Ohio doesn't show emissions levels?

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Can anyone translate this for me and does it help me identify which sensor it is??
That's off topic for this thread - but a perfectly good thread to open up separately.

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cause of air bag light to come on - bag never deployed - no accidents ... has anyone experienced this phenomenon?
Wrong thread for that. But the situation has occurred a thousand times. Or more. I won't answer it here (as it's OT) but the answer is in the VERY best of E39 Links already anyway. Just spend a few seconds by doing "control f" for "airbag" and hit "f3" to your heart's content. You'll find what you need.

As for the emissions ... I'm flabbergasted if Ohio has an emissions test where they don't give you your emissions results. Are you SURE that's how Ohio works?
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Offtopic indeed. You need to replace O2 sensor bank 1 precat. Replace them both, they have roughly the same lifetime. http://www.bba-reman.com/content.asp...TC_P0133_NEW_2
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the echeck message reads:
TR Number : 1
DTC:
P0133 O2 Sensor Circuit Slow Response (Bank 1

Ohio echeck seems to be quite mickey mouse compared to what you folks have posted.
I wonder if the final printout after I correct the problem will be more robust.
The test only comprised of them hooking up to the computer and that's it.
I was shocked at the simplicity - a total waste of taxpayer money and there is no charge.
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