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E82 / E88 1 Series (2008 - 2013)
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:15 PM
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Exclamation M3 vs 135i for a teen?

hey guys,
im currently 15, i get my permit in march. i get my licence in september and im starting to really nail down my car of choice. i love the M3, ever since the E46 model. Then the 135i came out and i absolutely fell in love. im stuck, i need advice on which would be better for me. i understand these cars take experience to drive. ive been driving on a private track for a year now, in my dads F430. by no means am i a professional, but i can drive. if i do go with the 135, what mods would you reccomend?

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Old 01-18-2011, 08:21 PM
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are you sure you only want an m3 or a 135i?
when i got my licenses at 16, i jumped straight into porsche 911 turbo.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:43 PM
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WOW, your one lucky person. i dont exactly think my parents will get me a 911 turbo haha. i wish.
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WOW, your one lucky person. i dont exactly think my parents will get me a 911 turbo haha. i wish.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:57 PM
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thats a negative sadly.
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:06 PM
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Its always hard to tell if these posts are serious or not.. In reality, neither car is a good idea. I say this as a 22 year old that would have eaten my own fist to own an e46 M3 at the age of 16, hell, I might still today if the offer was in front of me Not that the cars are too much too handle, because any car is controllable, what is unsure in this equations is the driver, you. Being young, you (and many others in this position) are going to be tempted to push the limits at innapropriate times, namely in street/regular driving situations. Young + fast cars more often then not turn into bad situations, nobody expects bad stuff to happen until it does. I consider myself a pretty resposnible young adult, and looking back at it now I'm surprised I didn't die driving the M5 at 18 (which I did buy myself, and I DO think that makes a difference).

Now that my babbling is done, I would say get an M3. If you're parents are footing the bill, go big! It may not be as quick as a modded 135i, but its still an //M
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Old 01-18-2011, 11:34 PM
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A modded 135i is quicker than an M? Surprised. Thank you for the advice I greatly appreciate it. I think I'm going to go with the baby M that should be coming out soon. 1 series m coupé.
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If you get either car be sure to get some lessons in the M car. If you can afford an M3, you can afford to learn how to drive it.

BMW NA holds a school that is open to anyone 15 and up with a valid learners permit.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...eenSchool.aspx

You could also look into club Autocrossing and then CCA driving school when you are 18. . .

You can join BMW CCA now....

http://www.bmwclubla.org/calendar.php

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Being able to drive on the track, and being responsible enough not to use that speed on the street are two different things. The temptation to race is just too high.

If dad really has a F430 that you've been driving, I'm sure he won't head this advice and let you have whatever you want. At that point, I'd say go at least for the new E92 M3. Its faster than than the E46 M3 or 135i.
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Being able to drive on the track, and being responsible enough not to use that speed on the street are two different things.
I agree. On the other hand if the OP has some training he might not die. I doubt there is anything we can say here that will stop him from getting an M car.


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I flew out from Atlanta a few days after the crash. Drove out to Calibasis with my parents to sit shiva. Skid marks were plainly visible on the 101. Everyone saw them. No one said anything.

I've never told the family but he might have lived if he had known how to drive the car. Maybe not. There wasn't a run off area. Instead there was a 30 foot drop. If he'd been on a track he almost certainly would have walked away.


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I agree. On the other hand if the OP has some training he might not die. I doubt there is anything we can say here that will stop him from getting an M car.
The problem with a kid (and many adults) with a fast car on the street (even with skills) is avoiding other cars. I find driving on the track more relaxing as the car in front of me rarely makes a turn I'm not expecting, let alone no kids, bicyclists, dogs, cats, or intersections with cross traffic.

I did a lot of karting as a kid, and so had great car control skills from the start. First time I ever drove without my parents in the car, I pulled a hand brake turn and drifted a fwd car around a corner in a way that would make Ken Block proud. My passengers weren't so amused. Luckily, there wasn't a car coming from the other direction.


And that was with only 65 hp. I'd have been dead before 17 with 200+hp.


And I was a boringly responsible kid compared to everyone else I knew. I worry more about a kid that has skills but is "into cars" than a kid that just views a car as a transportation appliance.

No offense to the OP - most of us were the same way, just without the money.
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No offense to the OP - most of us were the same way, just without the money.
I abused my parents '72 Ford Country Squire. Stock 429 big block and factory option low gears. Yes I did performance mods. I remember borrowing the car in the morning, porting the heads and getting it back to my mom the same day. I never crashed. Luck? Maybe I was a little be more careful because it was my parents car.

Somehow most of us live through it. My step-cousin didn't.
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Being able to drive on the track, and being responsible enough not to use that speed on the street are two different things. The temptation to race is just too high.
Completely agree.
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Thank you guys so much for the feedback. I talked to myparents about the M school, and they said theylle sign me up as soon as I get my permit. I thinks I'm responsible enough to own a car with such speed and only use it on the track on the weekends or whenever I can go to the track. Normally, this wouldn't be true. But my older brother passed away in a car accident a couple years back. His friend just got a lotus, and they where cutoff on the highway by a chevy and the car hit the devider and the car flipped. So from this I don't think I'll be doing anything stupid with the car. Again, thanks guys. I appreciate it
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You should get something bigger and safer. it's not a matter of if you crash your car but how soon. I would be surprised if you don't have some sort of accident before you are 20. It's just not realistic to think that a kid who loves speed is going to be the safest driver on the road. It takes a few years to develop the maturity and also understand the limits. Plus courts are very tough on young drivers these days.

I would suggest you get a BMW 535i or something like that. It will be fast, but will give you a good learning platform and more safety.
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It sounds like you are going to get a car that most of us would consider too much for a teen anyway, so I say get the M3, or if you can wait, get the 1M when it's available.

Say, have your parents ever thought about adoption? I am willing to pull my own weight and would likely be a valuable and diverse addition to your family.
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Hahaha very nice very nice. Thanks

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Im sure it's a good car, just not what I'm looking for. And insurance won't be hard to get, it's just expensive.


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Either car is a bad choice for a teenager.

If you must have a new BMW, start with a stripped down 128i. Even that's probably too much.
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Either car is a bad choice for a teenager.

If you must have a new BMW, start with a stripped down 128i. Even that's probably too much.
i really dont mind if its used. but i'd like the twin turbos.
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