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Old 05-16-2011, 08:38 PM
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Z3 Amplifier upgrade question

Hey all, this weekend I upgraded most of the speakers in my 2000 z3 2.3 and later this week the Integral Audio 8" sub kit will be arriving. I have a Rockford Fosgate P200-2 amplifier given to me for free that I will install to power the subwoofer.

BUT, although the new sound with the new speakers and without the terrible ~5 inch stock "subwoofer" assembly is quite improved already, I have a feeling that a little more uumph will be needed from the stock amp, especially at higher volumes and speeds with the top down.

So, I've been reading the forums, and I just want some guidance about replacing the stock amp. It seems some people have used 4 channel amps, but they use the head unit to power some speakers and such. I don't want to go that route because that is too complex for me. I'm thinking about keeping the Rockford for the sub and just getting a new amp for the other speakers, although I'll consider one big amp that can handle it all. But I don't mind the space that extra sub specific amp will take up.

So, the question is, should I get a 6 or 8 channel amp? The speakers are as follows...btw I am pretty sure I do not have the HK setup since I don't see HK on anything:

2 floor midbasses - about 5.25 inches I think
2 door tweeters
2 door midranges
2 behind the driver seat 4" midbasses
5 inch subwoofer POS that I removed and will be replacing with the Integral Audio 8" subwoofer.

I thought I heard that the tweeter and midrange have the same connection, but maybe not. I don't really know. Please help me out here, 6 or 8 channel. I think I can manage pulling all the plugs (or cutting and stripping them) from the stock amp and putting them in the new one.

Also, one more question....I suppose I also need (passive?) crossovers as I understand that is done in the current stock amp? What will that cost approximately? Do I need one for each channel or pair? Also, it seems that some people also buy a rather large capacitor - do I need that, and what terminals is that connected to. Lastly, please let me know anything I might have missed or any other guidance. Thanks a ton!

P.S. I don't really want to replace the head unit unless there is a really good reason to. I have a DICE setup with my ipod in the trunk that works fine for me.

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Old 05-16-2011, 08:48 PM
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5 channel amp would be ideal, but those are rare.

A 4 channel and a single sub amp also works.

However, the placement of the rear speakers in the Z3 mean you won't hear the rear speakers anyways, so why not just go without for a while and see if you miss them.

Then you can run a single 4 channel and bridge the rear channels for the sub.

They are pathetically small speakers and aimed at the rear of your seat.
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Thanks Mpire. I suppose I could give that a try. I sort of noticed that too, that I couldn't really observe the sounds from those speakers while driving. So does that mean that the tweeter/midrange just needs a single channel to drive?
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:43 AM
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What you need to do is find some cheap crossovers on ebay and then pick up a 2 or 4 channel amp for the speakers.

I have to ask what speakers you upgraded to, as they should have come with crossovers and they should NOT be compatible with the factory amp.

The factory head unit is a pre-amp only setup, and requires an amp to function, so you really can't run the rear channels off the head unit, so you can nix that idea.

Personally, I think the factory head unit sounds just fine, the only downside is that some people complain about skipping, I don't have a skipping problem, but the roads in Florida are excellent and dramatically lacking potholes.

So you can go a few ways...

1) Get a 2 channel amp to run your front speakers and keep the mono sub amp you already have. (what my friend Mark is doing)
2) Get a 4 channel amp to run your front speakers and use the rear 2 channels bridged for the sub (what I am currently doing in the wife's car)
3) Get a 5 channel amp to run all 4 speakers and a sub (what I am doing in the SG)
4) Get a 4 channel amp to run all 4 speakers and add mono amp for the rear sub (what I am doing in the EB)

My friend Mark went with a 2 channel amp that was rather small. Here is a pic installed in the factory location.


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Ah, Florida. Can't wait to move there at the end of summer - yeah, beginning of summer would be better but the job won't comply with that. In anticipation I bought my Z3

Because of these compatibility issues and my original desire to keep this project as simple as possible - in fact I was hoping to avoid messing with the amp - I went with the BSW stage 1. I have a variety of good mechanical, electrical, and car experience and skill, but no knowledge about car amps/audio systems so I figured I'd make it easy on myself and go with their "plug n play" solution. Since then I've read the thread below, so I know your opinions on the BSW...and also learned that a lot of people think the number 1 high priority upgrade should be an aftermarket amp.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...ight=amplifier

Now that I know how easy it is to get to and change the speakers, I probably should have gone with something like Polks which would have come with a matched crossover, but I've already spent the money so for now at least, I'd like to keep them if possible/practical. The sub is coming this week, and I have that amp, so that should be another improvement. I figure after I also replace the stock amp, then I can re-evaluate the speakers if I'm not happy with the system.

But what I don't understand - even if you axe the rear speakers - then it seems that you have 6 speakers in the front of the car still, not four. Two in the floor - the 5 1/4s, and four in the door - the tweeter and that odd midrange speaker. In yours (and others who use 4 channel amps for everything but the sub) are you also axing the midrange in the door, so you are just listening to the tweeter and floor speakers (seems I can't do that with the BSW tweeter which compliments the stock midrange)? Or do you somehow run the midrange and tweeter off of one channel? If I am reading this wiring diagram right, it seems that the tweeter and midrange may already be running off the same channel (perhaps there is an internal crossover in the system)? That's what I don't quite get about how a 4 channel amp would work. I guess one of the above would have to be true, but I'm not sure which is the case.

http://www.integralaudio.com/bmw_z3_wiring_diagram

Not really going for audiophile here, just want to be able to listen to music loudly while driving with the top down and enjoy it. Looks like that isn't an easy thing to do!
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As I understand the BSW speaker system, you are now tied to the factory amplifier. Their system does not have crossovers, it relies on the crossovers in the factory amp. At this point I would recommend installing the Integral Audio subwoofer and amp that you already have and then re-evaluate at that point.

Don't get hung up on the number of speakers; what you're really interested in is the number of channels. The 5.25" speaker in the kick panel, plus the mid-range and the tweeter in the door all combine to make ONE channel. The other side front 3 speakers make up ONE channel.

Each rear speaker is ONE channel. The sub can be ONE or TWO channels, depending on your car's configuration.
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I'm quite anxious to learn more on this topic. I just purchased an '01 Z3 2.5. As of the date of this post, I've only had the car for 7 days. 95 degrees in Texas and I have a serious sunburn from 7 days of driving with the top down! But I don't care because I'm having a blast.

I'm far, far from having figured out the audio system. Sub was blown (knew that before I bought). I have a 6 Disc changer in the trunk that works fine. From what I read, I'm guessing I have an Alpine unit (not Blaupunkt) but even there, I'm speculating. Do I have an Alpine 6 disc changer married to a Blaupunkt head unit? No idea. Everything appears to be factory.

At this point I'm trying to evaluate my options before I dive in. Like jalanparker37 I want to keep my head unit and I also don't want to overspend if I don't need too.

My first observation was that more power (amp) might improve things. I'd like to add a sub for more "umph" but don't want to assume I should just throw one in. Which, by the way, I doubt I can just "throw one in". I suspect it's not that simple. Also like jalanparker37, I don't have more than just average knowledge of car audio systems. For grins I took it by CarToys and they wanted me to take out a second mortgage "to get it right". Really didn't seem all that interested in helping me figure out how I might improve what I already have, but I recognize that that's not their focus.

My speaker set up seems to be different from what you all describe. I have a longish grill on each door near the top, but no other speakers in the door that I can see. I have the 2 behind the seat and the now useless sub enclosure (which I disconnected so I didn't have to hear the buzz).

I've been trolling the forums here and trying to research elsewhere to see if I can find a solution that doesn't require me replacing EVERYTHING. Or spending $1000. Since I just bought the car last week, I don't want to push my luck with my better half by going nuts on add ons :-)

So - with all that said - if there are posts, sites, etc that you can recommend, I'd be very grateful.

UPDATE: OK - check that on the speakers. I was looking in the actual door for the 5 1/4" speakers and now realize they are in the floor board area.

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I don't comprehend why people are afraid of the amp.

It could not be simpler to change out.

Takes a few hours on a nice afternoon.

We have the wiring diagrams, and its all ready to go.

Just get an amp and isntall it. Its a great first project that doesn't require getting dirty to work on the car.
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Replace amp first.

Then speakers.

You can do it for dramatically less than $1000.

The only time that should cost you $1000 is when you hire someone to do it for you and they screw you.
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Just for fun, I threw together some stuff on Sonicelectronics.com. They have good deals sometimes. I am sure you can find better ones.

This would be a major upgrade over the factory system, you could always spend more, you can probably spend less. Its not top of the line, but everything is an improvement over stock.

Here is an example of what you need to buy:

5.25 component speakers $149



6.5 inch sub $79



JL 360w 4 channel amplifier. $239



You will also need a trim ring for the sub: $12



Amp installation kit: $18



You will also need some RCA jacks: $3



Spade connectors: $3



You should also go to home depot and pick up some silicone...

GE Silicone 2.8 oz: $3.89





You can freak out and spend alot more, or you can waste a **** ton of money and pay someone to do it, but for around $500 you can replace everything with good quality, BRAND NEW stuff.

Its not hard. Just dive in.

THIS IS ALL YOU NEED!
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This would be a major upgrade over the factory system, you could always spend more, you can probably spend less. Its not top of the line, but everything is an improvement over stock.

THIS IS ALL YOU NEED!
Thanks Mpire. Great suggestions. And all this will work with the factory head unit, yes?

By the way, wasn't fear keeping me from diving in. Just simple common sense. That is, sometimes it's best to do a little research first. That way when. I do dive in I know whether the water is 3' deep or 30' deep.
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6.5 inch sub $79



JL 360w 4 channel amplifier. $239



You will also need a trim ring for the sub: $12



Amp installation kit: $18


JL 360w is on the way

Regarding the Kicker - it's a 2 ohm right? 10cvt654 is 4 ohm 652 is 2 ohm - so I need the 2 ohm, correct?

Am I driving the factory speakers and the kicker with the JL Amp? i.e. will the 360w support driving the front 5.25's, the door speakers, the 4's behind the seats and the sub?
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Just for fun, I threw together some stuff on Sonicelectronics.com. They have good deals sometimes. I am sure you can find better ones.

This would be a major upgrade over the factory system, you could always spend more, you can probably spend less. Its not top of the line, but everything is an improvement over stock.

Here is an example of what you need to buy:

5.25 component speakers $149



6.5 inch sub $79



JL 360w 4 channel amplifier. $239



You will also need a trim ring for the sub: $12



Amp installation kit: $18



You will also need some RCA jacks: $3



Spade connectors: $3



You should also go to home depot and pick up some silicone...

GE Silicone 2.8 oz: $3.89





You can freak out and spend alot more, or you can waste a **** ton of money and pay someone to do it, but for around $500 you can replace everything with good quality, BRAND NEW stuff.

Its not hard. Just dive in.

THIS IS ALL YOU NEED!

Just wondering if you recommend running new speaker wire or is the stock wire sufficent in your opinion?
Thanks
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Just wondering if you recommend running new speaker wire or is the stock wire sufficent in your opinion?
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Even if you run wire, you have to get it through the door harness, which is more work than its worth.

I would just use the stock wiring for the door speakers, unless you have the special tools to build the BMW harnesses.

I have done it for the door lock LEDs, its way more effort than its worth.
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Thats what I was hoping you would say.
I'm installing 5.25 components and a new amp. Should I eliminate the larger speakers in the doors?Run the mid bass in the kick panel, tweeter in the door and a new sub?
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A nice 5 channel amp is a Alpine PDX-5 / 5-channel car amplifier / 75 watts RMS x 4 + 300 watts RMS x 1
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Yup, thats a good amp.

Its also more expensive, but I love the PDX amps.

Can't go wrong with that!

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Yes, you can keep the factory head unit.

Its not all that bad to be honest.

Its definitely not the weak link in the system.
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Get the 4 ohm sub if you aren't driving it with a custom sub amp.

Its the same sub really, just 4 ohm vs 2 ohm.

This setup basically deletes the rear speakers in the car. You will not miss them.

4 channels on the amp. 2 channels to the front components, 2 channels to the sub.

You can always add a dedicated sub amp later and then add some small rear speakers for fill.

The factory rear speaker are about an inch in diameter. They are truly a joke, and yours are probably dry rotted by now.
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Sweet! Thanks.

I'm resisting the temptation to ask you lots of install related questions. Amp will arrive Monday. I'll just have to open up the "patient" first and see if I can figure it all out without being a pest. Haven't done a car audio installation since the late '70's. Seems guaranteed that a few things may have changed since then

I suppose my biggest fear is being sure I'm careful about having to do any cutting of wires. I will use the wiring diagram floating around the forums and be 100% sure what I'm doing before I start doing surgery. I'll prep a little this weekend by digging into the trunk to ensure I know where everything is situated.

"Measure twice, cut once" as they say.

PS. Also ordered a USA Spec iPod Interface. I really wanted the DICE Mediabridge 1500 but with all the problems people seem to be reporting (including DICE themselves telling me not to buy it until they resolve the firmware issues) I decided to just move on. Hopefully I won't regret buying the Spec interface. Worst case scenario I use it for awhile until the DICE issues are solved and switch to that later.
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Feel free to ask questions.

The amp is the weak point in the system, for sure.

Replacing the amp is rather straight forward if you use the wiring diagram.

You will need to install some crossovers when you put in the new amp. Its almost easier to replace the amp and speakers together.

You can still do everything in the trunk, so it doesn't turn into a messy install.

You can get various crossovers here and there, however ANY speakers that you find anywhere, even the $20 Walmart specials will be better than the stock speakers.
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Can you point me to documentation, how-to's or tips on how to be able to thread a cable from the cabin to the trunk? I've done some searching and dug through BMW TIS. But I'm not finding any visuals specific to my 2001 Z3 2.5i that can help me target my effort.

I received the iPod integration box today and the only thing that seems like it might slow me down is the process of getting the main cable from the front of the cabin (probably in the glovebox) through to the CD changer cable in the trunk. I don't mind doing the surgery, but I want to be sure before I start stripping off plastic bits that I'm focusing in the correct (most direct) area.

Thanks in advance for tips and/or pointers.

(By the way, if there is some obvious set of threads about this stuff that I'm somehow missing, by all means point me there and I'll refrain from posting all of my questions in this one thread.)
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As they say, careful what you say...I am just getting started on a steroe upgrade trek and could use a sherpa
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I am not offering to be a sherpa, but google "Badens car pages." Super detail about how he installed a stereo upgrade. I had been putting off taking on this project for years until I saw Baden's write up. I have no experience but the write up gave the instructions and confidence to pull it off. Just take your time.

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Printed Baden's "Journey Map"

Thanks !
I have Baden's pages printed out and had read Stygar's pages as well.

I feel fairly confident about the trip, though the system components I bought
are MUCH larger than I needed - sort of the way I camp I guess...

Going to start on the trip this Saturday morning.
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