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Old 11-15-2011, 04:55 PM
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Who Considered a Boxster, but Got a Z4 Instead?

Just as the title says . . . . And if you really researched both, did thorough test drives, and so on... why did you get the Z4 and not the Porsche?

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Old 11-15-2011, 06:08 PM
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Old 11-15-2011, 06:24 PM
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That's it? Otherwise what.... they're the same?????
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:53 PM
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I tested both. The Boxster is really dated (looks wise). The Z is more of a roadster where the Porsche is a convertible... imo.

It really came down to personal choice at the end of the day. I preferred a car that was better looking, new, and came better equipped (for the money). The Boxster I wanted to get was getting up there in price and for that I would have much rather paid a bit more and jumped into a base 911 - which is unreasonable for me right now. I also wanted the hard top over the soft top.

There were also a practical consideration, BMW offers free maintenance. This is a major selling point, especially when the Porsche rep was telling me that they have to take part of the engine apart for oil changes. Doing the math made no sense.

Overall, I felt that the Z offers and incredible balance for performance, price, practicality, and usability.

Don't get me wrong the Boxster is a great car (and I'll get flamed for this), it will outperform the Z but I would give that up. At the speeds most of us drive these cars, you'll hardly notice the difference.

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Old 11-16-2011, 08:14 AM
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:13 AM
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I tested both. The Boxster is really dated (looks wise). The Z is more of a roadster where the Porsche is a convertible... imo.

It really came down to personal choice at the end of the day. I preferred a car that was better looking, new, and came better equipped (for the money). The Boxster I wanted to get was getting up there in price and for that I would have much rather paid a bit more and jumped into a base 911 - which is unreasonable for me right now. I also wanted the hard top over the soft top.

There were also a practical consideration, BMW offers free maintenance. This is a major selling point, especially when the Porsche rep was telling me that they have to take part of the engine apart for oil changes. Doing the math made no sense.

Overall, I felt that the Z offers and incredible balance for performance, price, practicality, and usability.

Don't get me wrong the Boxster is a great car (and I'll get flamed for this), it will outperform the Z but I would give that up. At the speeds most of us drive these cars, you'll hardly notice the difference.

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You won't get flamed for that. BMW did not build the Z4 for the purpose of outperforming the Boxster. Nor do I believe anyone purchased a Z4 over Boxster with that expectation. The Z4 is the superior to the Boxster in other areas, many of which you touched upon.
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:49 AM
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I also found the Porsche ordering process to be a bit overwhelming. They have lots of configurable options and while choice can be a good thing, to me it was a bit too much to deal with.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:32 PM
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I also found the Porsche ordering process to be a bit overwhelming. They have lots of configurable options and while choice can be a good thing, to me it was a bit too much to deal with.
Interesting you say this. We covered this topic in class many, many times. I personally believe that more choices is not always good for the business owner. Often the seller ends up overwhelming the client.

I think when you reduce options, you help focus the customer.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:30 PM
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Just as the title says . . . . And if you really researched both, did thorough test drives, and so on... why did you get the Z4 and not the Porsche?

Doug
the boxter problem is its aging design (1997) same year of the dating z3
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the boxter problem is its aging design (1997) same year of the dating z3
Saying that the current boxster is anything like the z3 is a joke. Maybe back then they were competitors...not any more. The new boxster looks nothing like the old one from back when they had egg yolk headlights. Not bashing the z4...I would love to own one, but I would sooner hop into a boxster (not counting for labor costs, etc).
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:45 AM
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Saying that the current boxster is anything like the z3 is a joke. Maybe back then they were competitors...not any more. The new boxster looks nothing like the old one from back when they had egg yolk headlights. Not bashing the z4...I would love to own one, but I would sooner hop into a boxster (not counting for labor costs, etc).
The general concensus it that the Boxster still looks a lot like it did in 1997. A few have commented as such in this thread. It looks enough like it did in 1997 that people decide not to get the car for that reason.

To say it looks nothing like it did (from any angle) in 1997 is an opinion that very few would share.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:56 PM
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I did considered the boxster and the reason I went with Z4 is pretty much like what already mentioned, the z4 looks sleeker and sexier, much nicer interior.
Porsche looks is two edged sword to me, on one hand I can appreciate the timeless look and just by looking the silhouette you recognize its a porsche right away. On the other hand it started to look very common, especially here in SF Bay where the Porsche is so common.
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Old 11-23-2011, 07:54 PM
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Well, I never considered the Boxster because its looks w/ the ragtop is not that appealing. However, if it helps, I did seriously consider the Cayman S but in the end it was just too much of a price gap for what one is getting (vs my 35i). Sure, the handling seems more solid and planted in the Cayman, but it has an awkward 'bulby' look about it and I really hate how Porsche intentionally underpowers it and not make it to its full potential, thereby keeping it 'inferior' to the 911, even though I think that it's more of a driver's car vs that stupid rear-engined design the company seemingly must try to keep as its premium sportscar. Truth be told, even if the prices were similar, it would have been a difficult decision since it would be the Cayman's better handling vs the Z4's better looks.

EDIT: the 2013 Cayman (and hence, perhaps Boxster?) appears to be quite the looker though. Not sure if you want to wait for those options.

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Old 12-25-2011, 01:28 PM
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I find it interesting and a little disappointing that most of you who posted here made your decision based on appearances. What about the handling and performance factors? No one here cares??

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Old 12-25-2011, 06:33 PM
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I find it interesting and a little disappointing that most of you who posted here made your decision based on appearances. What about the handling and performance factors? No one here cares??

Doug
I think that was covered pretty well in this thread; most of those who went with a Z4 recognize its handling and roadholding as inferior to the Porsche's, but chose it anyway ... what more are you looking for

If you're looking for the track champ, you go Boxster; if it's value and styling you prioritize, you go Z4.
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DOUG YOU UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPORTANCE OF LOOKS IN SPORTS CARS. NO ONE SEEMS TO SAY THE BOXSTER IS BETTER LOOKING THAN THE Z4. ACTUALLY MANY CLAIM THE BOXSTER IS JUST PLAIN UGLY.REGARDING PERFORMANCE I HAVE DRIVEN MANY MILES IN THE TOP OF THE LINE BOXSTER THAT IS THE S MODEL AND I HAVE DRIVEN A 2.5 L Z4. THE BOXSTER BEATS THE Z4 ONLY IN BREAKING. TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE, PORSCHE BREAKS ARE THE VERY BESE BETTER THAN EVEN FERRARI AND Lamborghini. Other than that I found the Z4 in all other areas of performance better than the Boxster. I know the media always rates boxsters over Z4's but the media called a Presidential election victor incorrectly. So much for the media reigning supreme analysts. Also my Z4 has 12 music speakers including 2 huge woofers you will not find even in a Boxster S. I rest my case. Anthony Mastrandrea

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DOUG YOU UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPORTANCE OF LOOKS IN SPORTS CARS. NO ONE SEEMS TO SAY THE BOXSTER IS BETTER LOOKING THAN THE Z4. ACTUALLY MANY CLAIM THE BOXSTER IS JUST PLAIN UGLY.REGARDING PERFORMANCE I HAVE DRIVEN MANY MILES IN THE TOP OF THE LINE BOXSTER THAT IS THE S MODEL AND I HAVE DRIVEN A 2.5 L Z4. THE BOXSTER BEATS THE Z4 ONLY IN BREAKING. TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE, PORSCHE BREAKS ARE THE VERY BESE BETTER THAN EVEN FERRARI AND Lamborghini. Other than that I found the Z4 in all other areas of performance better than the Boxster. I know the media always rates boxsters over Z4's but the media called a Presidential election victor incorrectly. So much for the media reigning supreme analysts. Also my Z4 has 12 music speakers including 2 huge woofers you will not find even in a Boxster S. I rest my case. Anthony Mastrandrea
why are you yelling?

the boxster is, flat out, a better car in just about every way except serviceability, and reliability. the 2015 gts and spider abosolutely destroy everything in the class. to say anything else is a lie... and as of this date, bmw has ruined the z4. it's a limp wrist-ed shadow of the e85/86 platform. the z4m is still a better ride than the z4is and the forced paddle shift.

it's ok to like the z4 for what it is, a lux sport roadster... but... it's not a performance any more. it just ain't. they trashed it
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z4 vs. Boxster

Perhaps I was not clear in my original comments. I was comparing the 2005 z4 vs. Any year Boxster. I do not like the 2008 to
2016 Z 4's. But I do not like any year model Boxster.If I had to replace my 2005 Z4 and I mean had to, I would get a 2007 Z4. Thanks for responding I hope you respond to my comments here also. Thank You. Anthony Mastrandrea

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I agree with what edct said.
The one who prioritize performance and handling bought the boxster. when I bought my z4 I knew I mostly want a balance car and not a track car. I already have an e36 m3 to tackle trackday duty.
I want a car that I can take for a long trip drive and feel comfortable and luxurious.
Both are good car but with different development priorities. I also think the fact that boxster has mid engine and less weight, makes it almost impossible for the e89 to beat its handling.


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I find it interesting and a little disappointing that most of you who posted here made your decision based on appearances. What about the handling and performance factors? No one here cares??

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Why so appalling. Sports cars especially roadsters are suppose to be good looking and with the price tag of a boxster you deserve a good looking car. I do not think even the Boxster S is better than the base model z4 with one excetion of corse the breaks. No one makes better brakes than Porsche not even Ferrari or Lamborghini. You would be interested to know that Hemmings on Hennings news reviewed all roadsters ever created meaning hundreds of cars and the 2003 the 2007] z4 models placed in 10 th place not bad when the creme de la creme of roadsters werevi0. The Boxster beat the z4 landing in the 7th spot. But cosidering the better looks of the z4 which I consider a importantant facto bvuthey or all soortscars especially roadsters,and the much higher cost of the Boxster especially [the S model. The only rationale decision is the z4. Besides the 20o3 oto 2007 z4's as far as bsupl in looks. iam willing to th7ossibly,and I mean only possibly considerl performance by the Boxster S onlybmodel but its possiblele better performance only with the Smodel is not enough to the much higher cost of the S model to the base 2003 to 2007 base Z4 model. Besides what goid is driving a Boxster S with no pretty girl sitting near you because pretty girls like everythingthst is the prettiest and cars are no exceptions. Anthony in LA.
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The Cayman/Boxster is better in handling, but the Z4 is no slouch, just that it's hard to match due to the Porsche's setup, as others have already said. Overall, the Bimmer's a better car, imho.
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After driving a friends 911 Carrera and then a Boxster conv. and then a Z4 3.0 down a steep side mountain pass, I knew the Z4 felt secure and fast enough to run fast on public curvey roads. A small amount of counter steer correction took care of the rear end break-out ( none on the P cars) and was just fun! Also the Z4 spyder is just such a fine looking pc. of sculptured designing that I smile every time I get into it. Ok, I would love to take all three cars out to a race track and have a go at it!
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OK - What About Luggage Space?

OK - thanks, folks. I didn't mean the performance & handling aspects were being ignored - but I see it came out that way. I was just surprised many of the earlier comments had more to do with appearance issues.

One thing that does give me pause over getting a Z4 is the small amount of luggage space in the trunk; particularly with the top down. I would think that puts a damper on taking a long weekend (or longer) trip with a SO. Yes? No? THe Boxster isn't cavernous, but it has the front and rear trunks that certainly offer more space. Just wondering how you all deal with that?

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One thing that does give me pause over getting a Z4 is the small amount of luggage space in the trunk; particularly with the top down. I would think that puts a damper on taking a long weekend (or longer) trip with a SO. Yes? No? THe Boxster isn't cavernous, but it has the front and rear trunks that certainly offer more space. Just wondering how you all deal with that?

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The trunk is kinda deep and if you have duffle bags, you should be fine. The only prb is w/ the top down, access is difficult. Still, there is surprisingly good space top up/down. I guess you just have to investigate for yourself to see if it's enough.
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One thing that does give me pause over getting a Z4 is the small amount of luggage space in the trunk; particularly with the top down. I would think that puts a damper on taking a long weekend (or longer) trip with a SO. Yes? No? THe Boxster isn't cavernous, but it has the front and rear trunks that certainly offer more space. Just wondering how you all deal with that?

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Actually I think Z4 has better trunk space than the boxster, which is one the plus for the z4. If I remember correctly the boxster rear trunk is very shallow.
I've done quite a few 3-5 days trip with my fiancee. We definitely have to be conscious of cargo space but we can always bring the stuff we needed and more.
I have the passthru option(advertised for ski board), that can also be creatively used to maximize cargo space.

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