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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:27 PM
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Is the acceleration hesitation still a problem on the 2012 X3

I have read several threads about the BMW X3's acceleration hesitation. Is this hesitation on the 2012 X3's?

Other than driving in the 'sport' mode, are there any other reasonable suggestions?

Also, is this problem on other manufacturer's cars?
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Old 02-21-2012, 01:35 PM
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i don't perceive the hesitation, and in fact, like most automatics, the car wants to creep forward when stopped, and requires a foot on the brake to keep it stopped. except for rentals, i've only driven manuals since 1970, so perhaps i'm not the most sensitive to automatic transmission nuances. mine is a 2012 x3 35i, picked up late jan pcd. if you want gentle acceleration, it will deliver that. if you want vigorous acceleration, it will deliver that. i find it quite simple to get the response i want with the proper pressure on the accelerator.
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:12 PM
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I have read several threads about the BMW X3's acceleration hesitation. Is this hesitation on the 2012 X3's?

Other than driving in the 'sport' mode, are there any other reasonable suggestions?

Also, is this problem on other manufacturer's cars?
Yes - it exists (I have a 2012 X3 28i; Jan production). It takes some getting used to and after the first week I haven't noticed it. My take is that the power-train computer tries its best to keep RPM less than 2,000 and rapidly changes gears as the X3 accelerates from dead stop. In my view it quickly becomes a non-issue. Sport mode helps.

Perhaps it's not an issue on the 35i...? I don't know...

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:57 PM
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Also, is this problem on other manufacturer's cars?
My Q5 had a nonlinear throttle and a hesitation. The hesitation was really frustrating, as it felt like the car shifted into second too early. Engine speed dropped too low, making acceleration uneven. This issue was the main reason I bought my X3 3.5i after only 18 months with the Audi.

My X3 has the nonlinear throttle (seems to be becoming quite common), which takes a little getting used to. The only issue now is when I drive my wife's car with its linear throttle - too many aggressive starts for my wife's taste
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I drive an older car where the throttle opens in direct relation to how hard I press the accelerator pedal. The x3 provides what feels like 85% of what your foot calls for. I'm hoping the driver experience control will mitigate this programing fault. The only solution I've read is to mash the throttle as you pull away. Alternatively you can drive like you are "driving miss Daisy".

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I have an 07 X3, that felt anemic in terms of acceleration, when I first got it.

Resetting the tranny, so that it could learn my habits made all the difference in the world. Since the learning mode lasts for 1000 miles. My guess is, the first time the tranny was "trained" the SUV was probably being broken in, where people have a tendency to drive very light.

A tranny reset, to tune-in the shift pattern and a refresh of the engine's spark plugs and pre-cat O2-senors, to bring back the engine's max torque, really changed my perspective on the X3... big time.

For you guys I'm guessing your mileage is too low to truly warrant a spark plug/sensor tune up. However, if you haven't reset the tranny, post-breakin period... you'll probably be presently surprised if you do.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:58 AM
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How do you 'reset' the transmission? How does the transmission learn driving habits? enquiring minds would like to know...

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I have an 07 X3, that felt anemic in terms of acceleration, when I first got it.

Resetting the tranny, so that it could learn my habits made all the difference in the world. Since the learning mode lasts for 1000 miles. My guess is, the first time the tranny was "trained" the SUV was probably being broken in, where people have a tendency to drive very light.

A tranny reset, to tune-in the shift pattern and a refresh of the engine's spark plugs and pre-cat O2-senors, to bring back the engine's max torque, really changed my perspective on the X3... big time.

For you guys I'm guessing your mileage is too low to truly warrant a spark plug/sensor tune up. However, if you haven't reset the tranny, post-breakin period... you'll probably be presently surprised if you do.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:33 AM
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How do you 'reset' the transmission? How does the transmission learn driving habits? enquiring minds would like to know...
Disconnect the battery = resets the computer.

The f25 issue isn't the transmission like it was/is on the older models. There is a delay programmed into the drive by wire.
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Disconnect the battery = resets the computer.

The f25 issue isn't the transmission like it was/is on the older models. There is a delay programmed into the drive by wire.
Maybe it's me, but I don't sense a delay. It just feels like I'm pressing the gas pedal casually and getting less acceleration than expected because of the nonlinear behavior. I expect 25% throttle but get 10%. If I gun it, then it responds quickly.
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How do you 'reset' the transmission? How does the transmission learn driving habits? enquiring minds would like to know...
Here's some links to the tranny reset procedure for push button start BMWs.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=261285
http://forums.5series.net/topic/4001...moother-shift/

I had to adapt the procedure for my X3 with the turn key ignition. But it wasn't a big deal.

These BMWs have adaptive shift transmissions to more tailor the car to your driving habits. Remember these cars' throttle control are drive-by-wire which opens up the ability to record how much and how fast a person presses on the accelerator pedal. When you reset the tranny, it goes (back) into a generic shift pattern, from which it is learning how you press on the gas pedal to accelerate to a desired speed and what you do, once you get to that speed.

How we accelerate when we buy a brand new car, with 2 miles on the odometer is way different from how we accelerate when the same car is through the break in period, some 10 to 15K miles later...

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I have an 07 X3, that felt anemic in terms of acceleration, when I first got it.

Resetting the tranny, so that it could learn my habits made all the difference in the world. Since the learning mode lasts for 1000 miles. My guess is, the first time the tranny was "trained" the SUV was probably being broken in, where people have a tendency to drive very light.

A tranny reset, to tune-in the shift pattern and a refresh of the engine's spark plugs and pre-cat O2-senors, to bring back the engine's max torque, really changed my perspective on the X3... big time.

For you guys I'm guessing your mileage is too low to truly warrant a spark plug/sensor tune up. However, if you haven't reset the tranny, post-breakin period... you'll probably be presently surprised if you do.
How does the tranny get re-set? Can that be done to an X3 that's still under warranty (first 3 years)?

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i think the dealer just reflashes the ecu so that it will have an "open mind" to relearn your driving habits.
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In my opinion, yes they still need to do some work on the calibration.

I can only imagine that the poor souls who get Auto Start/Stop in the 2013 X3 will suffer even more... I can see offering this as an option, or even allowing one to activate it, but requring one to deactivate it after every start on a supposedly driver oriented vehicle is crazy. I am SOOOOOO glad we got a 2012. We wouldn't have purchased the X3 with that feature. Even KIA allows you to buy auto start/stop or not buy it in an option package. BMW likes to make money on every other option, why not charge for this1?
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In my opinion, yes they still need to do some work on the calibration.

I can only imagine that the poor souls who get Auto Start/Stop in the 2013 X3 will suffer even more... I can see offering this as an option, or even allowing one to activate it, but requring one to deactivate it after every start on a supposedly driver oriented vehicle is crazy. I am SOOOOOO glad we got a 2012. We wouldn't have purchased the X3 with that feature. Even KIA allows you to buy auto start/stop or not buy it in an option package. BMW likes to make money on every other option, why not charge for this1?
so they can show better mileage numbers for both regulatory and marketing purposes.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:58 AM
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In my opinion, yes they still need to do some work on the calibration.

I can only imagine that the poor souls who get Auto Start/Stop in the 2013 X3 will suffer even more... I can see offering this as an option, or even allowing one to activate it, but requring one to deactivate it after every start on a supposedly driver oriented vehicle is crazy. I am SOOOOOO glad we got a 2012. We wouldn't have purchased the X3 with that feature. Even KIA allows you to buy auto start/stop or not buy it in an option package. BMW likes to make money on every other option, why not charge for this1?
Here is a link to the feature you mention. I did not know what it was so I searched for it and found this. This, IMO, is taking fuel conservation to the point of absurdity. Even with this acceleration hesitation and as much as I like my 525, I will take a look around at other cars. This start/stop thing wold drive me batty, and maybe to another brand of car.

With some of the new features, I will have to unlearn my current driving habits. Too many times I depend on the power in my 525 to get into small gaps in traffic, pass a car when there is an opening to pass, and other times I need instant response. I will be scared to do this with the acceleration hesitation.

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With some of the new features, I will have to unlearn my current driving habits. Too many times I depend on the power in my 525 to get into small gaps in traffic, pass a car when there is an opening to pass, and other times I need instant response. I will be scared to do this with the acceleration hesitation.
i don't think you will be scared in those situations. first, those who complain about this hesitation are talking about accelerating from a stop, or sometimes re-accelerating after slowing down. i haven't heard anyone say they detect this, e.g., when moving in traffic and accelerating to pass. second, i've had my x3 35i for about a month, and i don't perceive any hesitation. your foot learns to do what is necessary, in the same fashion that you adjust to different engagement points with the clutch on varying manual transmission vehicles.
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My 2012 X3 just arrived and the hesitation is quite obvious. Not sure what the solution is yet? Anyone got any ideas?
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My 2012 X3 just arrived and the hesitation is quite obvious. Not sure what the solution is yet? Anyone got any ideas?
Your 2012 just arrived? They have been making the 2013's for several months now...
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i don't think you will be scared in those situations. first, those who complain about this hesitation are talking about accelerating from a stop, or sometimes re-accelerating after slowing down. i haven't heard anyone say they detect this, e.g., when moving in traffic and accelerating to pass. second, i've had my x3 35i for about a month, and i don't perceive any hesitation. your foot learns to do what is necessary, in the same fashion that you adjust to different engagement points with the clutch on varying manual transmission vehicles.
My 2011 X3 'M' (with a 3.5 x-drive engine) does the hesitation at ALL times. I could be at a dead stop or cruse at 60 km/hr or at 130 km/hr, when I press the gas to the floor, [the piece of cra*] always waits almost 2 full seconds.
I told my wife (I got this box for her) that imagine seeing a transport trailer hurling at you... and you do NOT have more than half a second to respond; you could do squat with this $78,000 X3 'M' as it could not move before almost two whole seconds pass after depressing the gas pedal to the floor.
Since my S-Class Mercedes cars have never had any issues, I trusted Germany with every technical gadgets they manufacture... I am now hugely disappointed in BMW.
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My 2011 X3 'M' (with a 3.5 x-drive engine) does the hesitation at ALL times. I could be at a dead stop or cruse at 60 km/hr or at 130 km/hr, when I press the gas to the floor, [the piece of cra*] always waits almost 2 full seconds.
I told my wife (I got this box for her) that imagine seeing a transport trailer hurling at you... and you do NOT have more than half a second to respond; you could do squat with this $78,000 X3 'M' as it could not move before almost two whole seconds pass after depressing the gas pedal to the floor.
Since my S-Class Mercedes cars have never had any issues, I trusted Germany with every technical gadgets they manufacture... I am now hugely disappointed in BMW.
This one of the many reasons I did not buy a F25 X3 to replace my MT 08 X3. BMW continues to run the BS line that this is normal in a drive by wire car. I say Nay nay. The new 3 series with the same engine doesnt do this. Only the X3's seem to have this gremlin. Until BMW admits there is a problem, they will never solve it. Shame I had dreamed of own a BMW for as long as I could drive. When I got an 07 AT X3 all I could dream of was getting rid of it. I got the MT X3 and it was very nice, but no MT in the new F25 and I wasn't going to get burned again. Shame.
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Here is a link to the feature you mention. I did not know what it was so I searched for it and found this. This, IMO, is taking fuel conservation to the point of absurdity. Even with this acceleration hesitation and as much as I like my 525, I will take a look around at other cars. This start/stop thing wold drive me batty, and maybe to another brand of car.

With some of the new features, I will have to unlearn my current driving habits. Too many times I depend on the power in my 525 to get into small gaps in traffic, pass a car when there is an opening to pass, and other times I need instant response. I will be scared to do this with the acceleration hesitation.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...tart_stop.html
You are right, when we MEAN Go, then we DEMAND to GO not in a second or two after the Beemer will get the command and responds "Oh, the driver wishes to get going so I think I should just do that..." but as I press the gas to the floor (and lately I feel like I am pressing it so hard it should end up on the pavement), then I want INSTANT go... I mean this delay has almost got me into serious accidents. And that is what I will bring up extremely seriously in front of the Judge when I will take BMW to court... unless the dealership agrees to take their car off the 3-year lease.
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You are right, when we MEAN Go, then we DEMAND to GO not in a second or two after the Beemer will get the command and responds "Oh, the driver wishes to get going so I think I should just do that..." but as I press the gas to the floor (and lately I feel like I am pressing it so hard it should end up on the pavement), then I want INSTANT go... I mean this delay has almost got me into serious accidents. And that is what I will bring up extremely seriously in front of the Judge when I will take BMW to court... unless the dealership agrees to take their car off the 3-year lease.
I have been in an X3 2.8 loaner the last week - I'm actually its first real driver with 29mi. on the odo (not trip odo) when I took it. Presumably it's a '13 and the one time I jammed the gas to make a turn in front of oncoming vehicles - I had both my kids with me - it was literally a 1 second delay before it even decided to move. No the engine was not off from start/stop mode. I have a hesitation in my X5 too but it isn't this bad. I will never do that again with BMWs though. I'll just wait it out next time. Can't trust these things. Ultimate driving machine huh?

On another note, my X5 is a 6-speed and this is an 8-speed. I feel a little jolt while accelerating from stop and it's the gear changing from first to second very quickly. It seems as though it has too many gears for its own good. People say the 8-speed is smoother but honestly it's not to me. At least not for the city driving I do all the time. The one obvious plus is it feels a ton lighter and easier on the fuel economy.

Lastly the start/stop of the engine at red lights drives me nuts. If it were my own car I'd worry about longevity of parts. If I actually stop at stop signs for a second, it would shut off - shouldn't it allow for a longer delay? But the most annoying thing is the engine vibration you actually feel EVERY TIME it starts and stops. Were it not for that, it would be pretty seemless. I keep turning the feature off when I start the car because there seems to be no way to keep it off as default in idrive.
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I keep turning the feature off when I start the car because there seems to be no way to keep it off as default in idrive.

You are correct that there is no way to turn auto-stop/start off in idrive. However, there is a BMW software update available that makes the X3 remember and use the last setting.
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I can only imagine that the poor souls who get Auto Start/Stop in the 2013 X3 will suffer even more... I can see offering this as an option, or even allowing one to activate it, but requring one to deactivate it after every start on a supposedly driver oriented vehicle is crazy. I am SOOOOOO glad we got a 2012. We wouldn't have purchased the X3 with that feature. Even KIA allows you to buy auto start/stop or not buy it in an option package. BMW likes to make money on every other option, why not charge for this1?
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