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BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 09-24-2012, 12:00 AM
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Rear ended yesterday

So I was rear ended yesterday morning on my way home. The kid that hit me had to have been going at least 30 MPH. Their car was pretty messed up. Mine looks to have done well, but we will see what happens when they take everything apart.

Something weird I noticed after the accident. My headrest popped forward, in doing some research I found out that my car has the "Active Head Restraints." Pretty cool I guess, my neck doesn't hurt too bad yet. I couldn't find any posts really about the Active head restraints actually being used and thought you all might want to see what it looks like in the event you are rear ended.


Also, there is now an alert on my iDrive screen that says "Fault in passenger restraint system affecting airbag, belt tensioner or belt-force limiter." Does anyone know what that's from? Did the system fail or is it because of the active head rests being used?
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Are you okay? Get checked out by a doctor - neck injuries are no joke! Sorry to hear this
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:55 AM
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I already went to the doctor a few hours after it happened yesterday. I started having lower back pain and pain in the middle of my back. The doctor only told me that it happens when being rear ended that your muscles will start to spasm. Said the same goes for my neck, she sent me home with muscle relaxers and ibuprofen. In all the research that I've done everyone says that the pain will be 10x worse 3 to 4 days later. We'll see what happens.
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I got rear ended earlier this year. Your BST "Battery Safety Terminal" blew from the accident and that will cause your restraints system to malfunction. You can read up on the BST in this forum to know what it means. It cost me about $1500 with labor without going through my insurance. I'll assume you'll be going through your insurance. I won't be surprised if your car is salvaged.
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Really? From something so minor? I'd almost prefer to have it totaled than have to keep this one knowing it's been in an accident.
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I had rear end but just a little slightly, so end up with new head rest even mine did not deploy, but it did said same thing as your Idrive. The cost was about 2,000 + bucks. All work done by BMW dealer prefer bodyshop. They did discharge my battery completely so I have to come like 3 times after that. So you need to be preparing for long battle with bodyshop/dealer after work is done.
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I'm shaking my head from reading some of the responses the OP is getting here. My car was also rear ended by a Honda Accord doing about 30 MPH on the highway after I stopped in traffic. My damage was very similar to the OP's. Also my driver's head restraint popped forward.
First off, the car is not going to be totalled out, salvaged or whatever you want to call it from a minor accident like this. If the OP is dealing with a reputable body shop, they will replace the outer bumper cover along with any other parts damaged behind it. In my case, they replaced the bumper cover, muffler, exaust tips, hangers, headrest and had to repair a very small dent in the trunk frame behind the bumper. Total cost was around $7,000. Of course I didn't pay a penny. The other guys insurance paid for everything including my deductible.
My restraint warning was also on. This is caused by the head restraint engaging. Once it engages, it can not be put back and the headrest must be replaced. The car then has to go to BMW to have the system reset. All in all, my car was out of service for a little over a week. I was supplied a free loaner through the insurance. Overall, it was a smooth process.
OP, I suggest going to a BMW certified body shop to have the car repaired. A BMW dealer can recommend one to you if you don't know where to go. The body shop will work directly with the insurance company to have your car repaired. There shouldn't be any battles or fighting whatsoever as what's being insinuated in this thread.
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A car can be salvaged if repair cost is as high as the $7000 depending on value of the car. The percentage varies from state to state if repair cost is greater than 30% of car value.

Did you have to replace the headrest completely or the kit inside was replaced. I'm still driving my car with the headrest disengaged. The restraints system malfunction has been cleared. The body shop that fixed my car said i just have to replace the kit inside the headrest, have not just got around to it.


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I'm shaking my head from reading some of the responses the OP is getting here. My car was also rear ended by a Honda Accord doing about 30 MPH on the highway after I stopped in traffic. My damage was very similar to the OP's. Also my driver's head restraint popped forward.
First off, the car is not going to be totalled out, salvaged or whatever you want to call it from a minor accident like this. If the OP is dealing with a reputable body shop, they will replace the outer bumper cover along with any other parts damaged behind it. In my case, they replaced the bumper cover, muffler, exaust tips, hangers, headrest and had to repair a very small dent in the trunk frame behind the bumper. Total cost was around $7,000. Of course I didn't pay a penny. The other guys insurance paid for everything including my deductible.
My restraint warning was also on. This is caused by the head restraint engaging. Once it engages, it can not be put back and the headrest must be replaced. The car then has to go to BMW to have the system reset. All in all, my car was out of service for a little over a week. I was supplied a free loaner through the insurance. Overall, it was a smooth process.
OP, I suggest going to a BMW certified body shop to have the car repaired. A BMW dealer can recommend one to you if you don't know where to go. The body shop will work directly with the insurance company to have your car repaired. There shouldn't be any battles or fighting whatsoever as what's being insinuated in this thread.
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A car can be salvaged if repair cost is as high as the $7000 depending on value of the car. The percentage varies from state to state if repair cost is greater than 30% of car value.

Did you have to replace the headrest completely or the kit inside was replaced. I'm still driving my car with the headrest disengaged. The restraints system malfunction has been cleared. The body shop that fixed my car said i just have to replace the kit inside the headrest, have not just got around to it.
The car is totalled when the repair cost is about 75% the actual value of the car. The OP's car actually has less damage than when my own got hit. The pic looks to be mostly bumper skin damage. A couple of thousand, yes. But the value of the car is still in the mid twenties, at least. So yes, the car will be repaired.
The body shop told me the entire headrest had to be replaced. That's not to say the inside kit couldn't have been replaced. It was never discussed and I really didn't care since I wasn't paying for it.
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$17000 in damages to my e60, 3 months of repair. Not totaled by insurance company.
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Car is at spectrum collision in Irvine CA. They are a certified BMW shop, I've been there in the past and I have sent family there as well. They are the collision center my dealer recommends. They have never done me wrong.

As for the whole thing, so far the insurance company has only come out and inspected the car as it is (not taken apart), from what they saw they said it needs new tail pipes, new muffler and new bumper cover. They said that so far is estimated at $2800 in damages. They will be taking the car apart in the next few days to see what other underlying damage there is. Also, from what I heard when i dropped off the car, the headrests have to be replaced by BMW themselves and they have to install some new cartridge that will make the headrest pop out again if they were ever needed again.

Also, wanted to see if any of you all knew... Will the collision center do an alignment on the car? I just had one done 2 months prior and i'm sure as hell that it's messed up now. Will insurance pay for that as well?

The insurance company has me in a Mercedes C300 rental that is completely paid for by them (had to fight with them a little bit to get it).
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I doubt you'll get a front end alignment out of this. You will have to prove the alignment got screwed up from the accident. A minor collision like this shouldn't affect it. My alignment was okay after the accident. Also, I don't think collision centers do alignments, but you can always ask them.
The collision center did replace my entire headrest. The new headrest includes the cartridge and everything already set up.
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I doubt you'll get a front end alignment out of this. You will have to prove the alignment got screwed up from the accident. A minor collision like this shouldn't affect it. My alignment was okay after the accident. Also, I don't think collision centers do alignments, but you can always ask them.
The collision center did replace my entire headrest. The new headrest includes the cartridge and everything already set up.
I don't know if this will be considered so minor after all. Just got a call from the collision center. They said there is Frame/Structural damage. The side panels buckled on the car and the rear axel has to be completely removed in order for them to fix it. I don't have the exact estimate or pictures yet but the guy said he has a similar car but older with more miles in for the same thing and the estimate to fix it is at $18,000.

Definitely think I might go for loss of value because of how bad everything is.
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I don't know if this will be considered so minor after all. Just got a call from the collision center. They said there is Frame/Structural damage. The side panels buckled on the car and the rear axel has to be completely removed in order for them to fix it. I don't have the exact estimate or pictures yet but the guy said he has a similar car but older with more miles in for the same thing and the estimate to fix it is at $18,000.

Definitely think I might go for loss of value because of how bad everything is.
watch out for subframe after that. previuos generation 3-series were all big problem.
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watch out for subframe after that. previuos generation 3-series were all big problem.
What am I watching out for with the subframe?
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The worst thing of if Honda or Toyota is worth almost same after accident, but BMW or Benz are dropped very significant portion, so during the trade or sale you will never get full price. And this sucked very bad due the loans vs value and other bank may not approve for loan other person because of the car history.
I would probably try to get compensation due medical expenses. The good lawyer may be a help.
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Thanks. I'm looking to move down to Orlando, Fl when I retire. I see you're in Orange County (FL?) also. How do you like it?
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Thanks. I'm looking to move down to Orlando, Fl when I retire. I see you're in Orange County (FL?) also. How do you like it?

Orange County CA. Love it. Wouldn't live anywhere else!
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Read through all the posts here. Never been in accident My wife was rear ended in her fully loaded 2014 BMW 55O M Sport package. Police report filed and guy admitted fault at scene. Wife had problem starting car but police officer managed to get car running. She was hit stationary at 30 mph in rear Headrest ejected forward, interior light will not turn off, airbag did not deploy, but has error of malfunction, bumper totally smashed up and trunk slightly buckeled up mufflers damaged, other engine warning light on, rides rough. My wife an hour after accident today is all of a sudden getting severe upper back pain and neck pain. Very dramatic psychological to her. She is going to doctor tomorrow. Ok my thoughts and facts>>. I paid $72k for car 1.5 years ago. Brand new custom order at United BMW Atlanta. . Car trade in value not wreck is around 50k. Retail $58k. I was just told by my dealer 25%- 30% loss in value due to car and bad carfax now. So loss in value already at at least 15k before any repairs. New trunk, bumper, exhaust, headrest restraint, electrical, air bag malfunction light, and so weird engine issues even if rear ended only. I'm sure frame is bent. Tail lights alone our like 1200. I would be surprised if repairs are less than $10k so plus depreciation trunk, bumper, exhaust, headrest restraint, electrical, air bag malfunction light, isn't warrant now void? 2.5 years left on it what is that worth? Plus everyone I know has major issues after a few years after repairs Car will never be the same. Also medical costs and long term pain. about my 2.5 years of full warrant left Void now? If issue in future they could tie to accident and not pay for it So many things that come into play. What a nightmare. i don't have any loan on car. Also my car is very rare only saw 3 for sale in USA. With me exact options. I will got to court without lawyer if need be. 3-0 in small claims court This will be big boy court but feel like I can handle. (police report car fax) of $15k I'm at $25k minimum plus all the other engine and possible frame damage cars pulling right. Also interior lights on. Also isn't warrant now void? 2.5 years left on it what is that worth? Plus everyone I know has major issues after a few years after repairs Car is never the same. Also medical costs and long term pain chat about my 2.5 years of full warrant left? Void now? If issue in future they could tie to accident and not pay for it So many things that come into play. What a nightmare. i don't have any loan on car. Also my car is very rare only saw 3 for sale in USA. With me exact options. I will go to court without lawyer if need be. 3-0 in small claims court This will be big boy court but feel like I can handle. Btw. Guy who hit me Big SUV that was really messed up on front end. Oh rental car cost guy had statefarm. I gave Geico. Call them they said they will help me fight for everything I need The open cases and closed so not a hit against me but can no reopen if issues not being able to settle.

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Dude that sucks all the way around, hopefully they total it and give you some good value on the car...
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Dude that sucks all the way around, hopefully they total it and give you some good value on the car...
Not totaling it. If you read above, $14,000 in damage. A car has to cost more to fix than to replace for it to be considered totaled.
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Sorry to know about the accident and hope your wife gets well soon. Yes dealer can deny any future warranty issues cause of the accident specially I never had any good experiences with Bmw dealers and plus your wife is in pain. Do not settle easily get a professional lawyer if you need to and get your each and every penny. Btw I have seen premium cars been totaled just with a fender bender. So you can go that route and take your money. Good luck.
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Sorry to know about the accident and hope your wife gets well soon. Yes dealer can deny any future warranty issues cause of the accident specially I never had any good experiences with Bmw dealers and plus your wife is in pain. Do not settle easily get a professional lawyer if you need to and get your each and every penny. Btw I have seen premium cars been totaled just with a fender bender. So you can go that route and take your money. Good luck.
^^^In a rear ender you have a lot of leverage. Use it.

I don't believe in scalping the other driver, but you should get what you deserve: full value of the car (including loss in value from carfax), all expenses for your wife's injury, and comp for what may be a future and ongoing medical condition.

Do not let your insurance company or agent negotiate the issue -- they'll agree on the cheapest alternative. Hate to say it, but get a lawyer, since the counterparties will try to leave as much value on your shoulders as they can.

BTW, if you want to be responded to, start a new thread.
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