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E82 / E88 1 Series (2008 - 2013)
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:23 PM
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Black kidney grills for 135is... oh and advice about snow tires too

I tried to order a set of black kidney grills for my 2013 135is from Turner Motorsports and to their credit they warned me that the blacked-out aftermarket grills for the 2012 and prior do not fit the new 135is. Not sure why but.... Anyone else with a new 135is found a source for the black grills yet?

Also having a hell of a time finding wheels and snow tires for my 135is. Winter in Connecticut... need snow tires. Tire Rack has Breyton GTS-R wheels that are the OEM size (front 7.5 x 18; rear 8.5 x 18) and look great, and they sell a Pirelli snow tire that is the same size specs as the stock summer tires (front 215/40R18; rear 245/35R18) but that combo comes up in Tire Rack's recommendation for the 2012 135i with M sport package and NOT for the 2013 135is. I emailed Breyton in Germany and they said that wheel WILL fit the 135is, but I can't seem to get a straight answer from Tire Rack about why that wheel / snow tire combo isn't recommended for the 135is. Anyone else with a 135is have other information about snow tires and wheels???
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:21 PM
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I don't see why anything that would fit the m-sport wouldn't fit the IS since I'm not aware of any brake/suspension changes. I could be wrong. My IS is scheduled to get here around turkey day time, so I have until then to figure this out.

Edit - went to TR and simply built a 17 inch winter tire/wheel package. Seemed straight forward enough -- what am I missing?
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:13 AM
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You are right but...

You are right about the 17 inch wheel / snow tire package listed on TR for the 135is, but I didn't like the one and only wheel listed and in any case I really want to keep my winter wheels the same dimensions as the stock ones in case I ever want or need to switch around summer and winter wheels. Also, if you're right about the suspension and brake clearances being the same for the '12 135i with M sport and the '13 135is (and that seems logical), then why doesn't the same Breyton wheel / Pirelli snow tire package that TR recommends for the '12 135i come up for the '13 is? I'm waiting to hear from TR about this. Will post any information I get and still waiting to hear if anyone else knows of other options.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:56 PM
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I saw a ton of wheel options for the 17 inch option. You don't have to worry about swapping out a winter wheel/tire with a summer wheel/tire diameter-wise because they have to be essentially the same, or else your speedometer will be too far off. Any 17 inch size TR offers will be identical to any 18 inch diameter (less tire diameter to account for the bigger wheel of the 18). I WOULD, however, be concerned about putting a different compound tire on (either summer with winter or winter with summer) because that would lead to some extremely interesting handling dynamics. If you're interested in maximum safety and snow performance, then go 17s with 205s.
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:59 PM
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black grills

I bought a set of the blacked out performance grills from the dealer, they fit just fine.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:02 AM
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TR tons of wheel options

Hmmm, I'm glad you responded about the "tons of wheel options". When I checked in late August there was only one wheel option in the recommended wheel / snow tire packages specifically for the '13 135is. After your posting I checked again and, yes, there are lots of options for 17 inch wheels. Most of them, however, require centering rings (not going there) but I'm leaning toward 17 x 7.5 inch black Sparco rims (no rings required) with 205/50R17 Michelins snow tires. Thanks again for prompting me to double check.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:49 PM
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Blacked out grills for 135is

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I bought a set of the blacked out performance grills from the dealer, they fit just fine.
I just spoke with my dealer parts department and they told me that there is no blacked out grill available to fit the 2013 135is. They said the 2012 blacked out grill will not fit and there is no part number available for an all-black grill to fit the 2013 135is. Turner Motorsports sells an aftermarket blacked out grill for the 2012 but they also said that there is no such grill (yet?) to fit the 2013 135is. This all sounds crazy. Why wouldn't the 2012 grill be the same as the '13? I supposed I could just spend the $100 for what is intended for older the 135i and try it to see if it works. But I'd rather benefit from the experience and wisdom of someone else. Has anyone yet bought a blacked out grill and successfully fit it on the 2013 135is???????
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:55 PM
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Just go to the dealer and try the shadowline grill out to see if it fits. Be really strange if it didn't, I believe the it fits the 1M as well.

You can run 225s up front and 255s in the rear, that should give you more options on tirerack with the Breytons. Or just go for 225s all around.
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:56 PM
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For the sake of practicality if you are going to expect more than just an inch or two of snow, do yourself a favour and go with the 17" and the 205 width. On snow, the less width you have the easier the tire can "cut" the snow. Also, smaller wheel and thicker sidewall mean that WHEN you slide on the ice and hit something sideways you're putting less stress on the suspension components.

Oh... and I'd advise to just forget about what looks great on the car; these are snow tires. They're intended for a couple of months when your car's going to be covered in road crap anyway and isn't exactly going to look stellar. And again, WHEN you slide into a curb because of the ice, you're going to be damaging a cheap and ugly set of rims that you really don't care so much about.

OK... that's just my personal advice. Last year I bought a set of 17/205's and mounted them on a set of Moda MD9's. Cheap and cheerful and got me through everything mother nature threw at me last year. They're patiently waiting in the basement for the weather to get really cold again, and they'll be right back on my car for another couple of months. They really don't look good, but I did ding a couple of curbs when I slid last year; on these wheels I really don't care
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:27 PM
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No prob. Where does it say whether a rim requires the centering rings? I don't want to deal with that, either.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:05 AM
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TR wheels for 135is no center rings required

If you search for the wheel by make-year-model, when you find the wheel you like for your car on the TR website, scroll near the bottom to product description / reviews / included hardware / etc. and click on included hardware. If the wheels require centering rings for your car it will indicate that under included hardware.

I just ordered the Sparco Assetta Gara (black) 7.5 x 17 inch rims with 215/45R17 Michelin Alpin PA3 snow tires. Gill at TR guaranteed me no problems with fit and should work well.

Since these snow tires are not run-flats, I've also ordered a space-saver spare rim & tire from Bimmerzone that is supposed to fit the 135is. I wanted one anyway because as soon as the stock summer run-flats are worn I'm changing to non-run-flats (hate them). So eventually I would have needed a spare of some sort anyway. I'll post news when the space-saver arrives and is test fitted.

BTW, the Sparco Pista wheel 8 x 17 also fits the 135is with no centering rings or spacers required.
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:42 PM
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For the sake of practicality if you are going to expect more than just an inch or two of snow, do yourself a favour and go with the 17" and the 205 width. On snow, the less width you have the easier the tire can "cut" the snow. Also, smaller wheel and thicker sidewall mean that WHEN you slide on the ice and hit something sideways you're putting less stress on the suspension components.

Oh... and I'd advise to just forget about what looks great on the car; these are snow tires. They're intended for a couple of months when your car's going to be covered in road crap anyway and isn't exactly going to look stellar. And again, WHEN you slide into a curb because of the ice, you're going to be damaging a cheap and ugly set of rims that you really don't care so much about.

OK... that's just my personal advice. Last year I bought a set of 17/205's and mounted them on a set of Moda MD9's. Cheap and cheerful and got me through everything mother nature threw at me last year. They're patiently waiting in the basement for the weather to get really cold again, and they'll be right back on my car for another couple of months. They really don't look good, but I did ding a couple of curbs when I slid last year; on these wheels I really don't care
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:43 PM
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wheels - snow tires - space saver - all fit nicely

Just received and test fitted on my 135is a set of Sparco Assetta Gara 17 x 7.5 inch wheels mounted with 215/45R17 Michelin Aplin 3 snow tires. They fit, turn and rotate with no problems at all. Also bought a space saver spare wheel / tire from Bimmerzone and it fits and works fine. The Michelins are non-run-flat and when the stock summer tires wear out they'll be replaced with non-run-flats, so I now have peace of mind. Bring on the snow! Just kidding. But ya never know in New England.
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Good choice... you may not enjoy the handling so much with the taller sidewall and the fact that snow tires are softer than summer tires... but you will be glad of that taller sidewall when you're going sideways. Unintentionally; going sideways deliberately on summer tires is a different matter entirely.

And BTW... they do look pretty sharp on that white
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I am happy that its working good on your 135is Thanks for the pics too

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Just received and test fitted on my 135is a set of Sparco Assetta Gara 17 x 7.5 inch wheels mounted with 215/45R17 Michelin Aplin 3 snow tires. They fit, turn and rotate with no problems at all. Also bought a space saver spare wheel / tire from Bimmerzone and it fits and works fine. The Michelins are non-run-flat and when the stock summer tires wear out they'll be replaced with non-run-flats, so I now have peace of mind. Bring on the snow! Just kidding. But ya never know in New England.
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:36 PM
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I saw someone on 1addicts with regular perf. grilles on his iS, so they work.
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Have a new 128 with 17'' wheels, need to buy snows. Do I have to worry about buying snows from BMW to keep the electronics in the wheel in tact? (not that I want to constantly see a 'tires low message...) The BMW snow packages (Blizzak run flat snows and 7 spoke alloy wheel) are $500 a pop. That seems pretty high. Any recommendations on alternatives, assuming that the electronics are not an issue?

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Actually, any set of tires/rims will work just fine. Yes, you'll have a tire low warning if you're running without the sensors, but so long as you ignore it you're fine. I ran all last winter without them, no worries.

If you want the sensors, then Tire Rack or other vendors will happily sell you sensors. I think you'll need to go to the dealer to have them code the tires and then have them reconfigure them again when you get your old wheels back on... but that shouldn't be a big deal.

I spent less than a grand on all four tires and rims. Yes they were cheap rims and non-run-flat tires, but they are for winter and I am less concerned about how they look. Yes the non-run-flat concerned me a little, but I have BMW Assist and my insurance also has towing coverage so I really don't care about a flat. I have run non-run-flat tires for years and only had a couple of flats... statistically I don't really care all that much.

Yes, if I were out in the boonies I'd probably worry a bit more... but I live in a reasonably large city (St. Louis) where recovery is easy enough. Plus, this time of year I tend not to travel too much by road.
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