About to purchase a 2009 bmw x5d

anything i should know? maintenance? does it have to be charged every month if im living in cold conditions in canada? ive never owned a diesel vehicle before, any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

Do a quick search. Lots of stuff have come up.

It's a general rule of thumb to avoid first MY diesels, which are the '09s because of initial issues

Originally Posted by AutoUnion

Do a quick search. Lots of stuff have come up.

It's a general rule of thumb to avoid first MY BMW's, which are the '09s because of initial issues

Fixed for accuracy.

Aside from the brutal iDrive that was updated for MY '10, I'm not sure you're going to want to hear some of the potential issues due to our climate up here. Will it be garaged always? In extreme cold temperatures, ie. colder than -30 C, we have had issues with the urea delivery system freezing up (exact same issue with our Mercedes ML320 Bluetec).

We've also make sure all of the recalls have been performed as there are multiple emissions issues. My opinion is that our cold weather has contributed to many of the exhaust problems. Again the Mercedes was no better, but at least our service experience with Calgary BMW has been exceptional.

Originally Posted by Cdnrockies

Fixed for accuracy.

Aside from the brutal iDrive that was updated for MY '10, I'm not sure you're going to want to hear some of the potential issues due to our climate up here. Will it be garaged always? In extreme cold temperatures, ie. colder than -30 C, we have had issues with the urea delivery system freezing up (exact same issue with our Mercedes ML320 Bluetec).

We've also make sure all of the recalls have been performed as there are multiple emissions issues. My opinion is that our cold weather has contributed to many of the exhaust problems. Again the Mercedes was no better, but at least our service experience with Calgary BMW has been exceptional.

I just bought it and would like to hear the potential issues if u care to share I bought it in Calgary and will be garaged always. What's up with the urea system? Anything else to look out for?

In short, just about everything on my X535D has had problems. I purchased it new in 2009. I'm really disappointed in the quality & reliability. Great to drive when its running, but it spends a lot of time in the shop. Buy an extended warranty & save your money for constant repairs when the warranty runs out.

Originally Posted by AutoUnion

Do a quick search. Lots of stuff have come up.

It's a general rule of thumb to avoid first MY diesels, which are the '09s because of initial issues

What are you talking about ? I've had my 09 diesel and its got close to 60k miles on it and its completely fine.

What a bunch of BS.

No BS, Fact. Been back multiple times for defects with DEF System, Intake System, Interior Electronics, Electrical Battery System Failures, Emmission Control Components Failures and several other things. No BS, fact that can be backe up with service slips accumulated over the last 3 years. If you have had good reliabilty, then knock on wood and pray that your luck does not run out.

Pretty funny.

I deal with statistics a lot. A lot. And one of those funny truths is that to the INDIVIDUAL, the stats dont matter. A doctor comes into the room, with MRI and blood tests in hand. He explains you have cancer. But not jsut any cancer, bu a super rare, one- only seen in one out of a million. Do you take solace in this? no, all it does is make you feel like the most unlucky person in the world.

But back to cars- for Joe, the 2009 is a 100% dog. For apw, the 2009 is a 100% champ.

Having said this, Joe- if there is a 2009 that has been running perfectly, with only BMW maintenance, should this be avoided in the used market? In other words, haven't most of the 2009, 2010 diesel issues been worked out? And if they havent been worked out, wouldn't the 'bad ones' with ongoing service records be identifiable?

Just thinking....

I just bought an 09 X5 35d in Calgary as well, I love it so far I have also read some horror stories but I would assume the previous owner worked out most of the issues by now.

I went to ECUProgramer in Calgary and got a tune done and it made a night and day difference....now I am debating going and getting extended warranty or back to ECUProgrammer to remove the DPF and get a stage III tune that increases power/torque by 100/115.

Looks like a few Calgary 35d's on here we should have a meet.

Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35

I just bought an 09 X5 35d in Calgary as well, I love it so far I have also read some horror stories but I would assume the previous owner worked out most of the issues by now.

I went to ECUProgramer in Calgary and got a tune done and it made a night and day difference....now I am debating going and getting extended warranty or back to ECUProgrammer to remove the DPF and get a stage III tune that increases power/torque by 100/115.

Looks like a few Calgary 35d's on here we should have a meet.

nice! what did you get done in the tune? im actually thinking of getting extended warranty this week how much should that be in alberta 4k?

I got ECUPrograms stage I it think he said it adds 40hp and 65ftlbs it is very noticeable gains anyway. Now I want his stage II he removes the DPF and gets +60hp 100ftlbs but I am going to wait until warranty is up for that. I have got warranty work with the stage I it cost $800 for the tune I am not sure what ext warranty costs let me know when you find out I am considering it as well.

well i went to the dealer and asked how much for warranty yesterday and they quoted me 6500 with 1000 cash back, is that right? i thought it was suppose to be around the 4k range

Originally Posted by dixon

well i went to the dealer and asked how much for warranty yesterday and they quoted me 6500 with 1000 cash back, is that right? i thought it was suppose to be around the 4k range

"Right" is whatever they think they can hoodwink you into paying.... shop around.

Originally Posted by dixon

well i went to the dealer and asked how much for warranty yesterday and they quoted me 6500 with 1000 cash back, is that right? i thought it was suppose to be around the 4k range

Which warranty? How many years? What mileage? Which level of coverage? All factors in determining the price. I don't recall ever seeing coverage that was $6500?

$6,500 seems pretty steep you could do a lot of repairs for that.

Originally Posted by Cdnrockies

Which warranty? How many years? What mileage? Which level of coverage? All factors in determining the price. I don't recall ever seeing coverage that was $6500?

it was the superior pkg which includes pretty much everything it seemed from suspension to electrical and mechanical, they said it was more cause it was the diesel version. it was warranty for 4 years/80000km, im going to call the other bmw dealer and see how much it is there.

Originally Posted by dixon

it was the superior pkg which includes pretty much everything it seemed from suspension to electrical and mechanical, they said it was more cause it was the diesel version. it was warranty for 4 years/80000km, im going to call the other bmw dealer and see how much it is there.

They're clearly full of bs....especially the bolded part.

Like ard suggested, read the actual contract very, very clearly before you make the decision. Considering that they are telling you that this warranty coverage is somehow special for the diesel, confirm that the emissions components (which are the primary issue with the diesels...especially in our cold climate) are fully covered. Don't hold your breath for the answer.

They are also overpriced by about $2K minimum.

GL

where else can i shop around for warranty? this was at edmonton bmw and we only have 2 bmw dealers in town.

pretty sure any BMW dealer in Canada would work....

if i get it through say bmw in vancouver, does that mean i still get my warranty work done at the bmw dealers in my hometown of edmonton?

Originally Posted by dixon

if i get it through say bmw in vancouver, does that mean i still get my warranty work done at the bmw dealers in my hometown of edmonton?

In the US, it works that way..***** it from ANY bmw dealer in any state. Every dealer in north america must honor it. (Keep in mind that it is BMWNA that is paying the bills.. NOT your local dealer.)

You MIGHT even contact US dealers and see if they can sell it to you- a Spopnsor here has pretty good prices. Not sure what the rules are, but worth an ask

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